feminism

1 Aug 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

i would agree,but think of it this way,would you invite peadophiles to be child protection advocates?Those were the terms the first wave thought in,many more reasonable modern men say they are not feminists because the last thing the movement needs is drailing by a bunch of men.
good blog here by a male feminist,

Any movement that is so broad it can include Valerie Solanas, Faye Weldon, Madonna and Geri Halliwell is probably too broad to have a working definition.

1 Aug 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

i would agree,but think of it this way,would you invite peadophiles to be child protection advocates?Those were the terms the first wave thought in,many more reasonable modern men say they are not feminists because the last thing the movement needs is drailing by a bunch of men.
good blog here by a male feminist,

Any movement that is so broad it can include Valerie Solanas, Faye Weldon, Madonna and Geri Halliwell is probably too broad to have a working definition.
Shhhhhhh dont bring knowledge into this thread, lol

People want to make points based on outdated ideas,not learn,look at how my post about whether men can be feminists were ignored.
You are correct of course,as a movement far too much time is spent debating good v bad burning anyone?And of course now Palin is claiming the title i may be sending back my jack boots and party card.
As a fellow feminist,before you send them back, could I see a picture of you in them.
:sticky: please

1 Aug 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

i would agree,but think of it this way,would you invite peadophiles to be child protection advocates?Those were the terms the first wave thought in,many more reasonable modern men say they are not feminists because the last thing the movement needs is drailing by a bunch of men.
good blog here by a male feminist,

Any movement that is so broad it can include Valerie Solanas, Faye Weldon, Madonna and Geri Halliwell is probably too broad to have a working definition.
Shhhhhhh dont bring knowledge into this thread, lol

People want to make points based on outdated ideas,not learn,look at how my post about whether men can be feminists were ignored.
You are correct of course,as a movement far too much time is spent debating good v bad burning anyone?And of course now Palin is claiming the title i may be sending back my jack boots and party card.
As a fellow feminist,before you send them back, could I see a picture of you in them.
:sticky: please
Wouldnt you prefer corset,high heels and stockings? im sure there are a few of those floating about somewhere :rascal:
:inlove:

1 Aug 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

i would agree,but think of it this way,would you invite peadophiles to be child protection advocates?Those were the terms the first wave thought in,many more reasonable modern men say they are not feminists because the last thing the movement needs is drailing by a bunch of men.
good blog here by a male feminist,

Any movement that is so broad it can include Valerie Solanas, Faye Weldon, Madonna and Geri Halliwell is probably too broad to have a working definition.
Shhhhhhh dont bring knowledge into this thread, lol

People want to make points based on outdated ideas,not learn,look at how my post about whether men can be feminists were ignored.
You are correct of course,as a movement far too much time is spent debating good v bad burning anyone?And of course now Palin is claiming the title i may be sending back my jack boots and party card.
As a fellow feminist,before you send them back, could I see a picture of you in them.
:sticky: please
Wouldnt you prefer corset,high heels and stockings? im sure there are a few of those floating about somewhere :rascal:
:inlove:
Ask nicely and i may even know of some outdoor pics wink

"Oh baby, You know what I like"
Female intuition?
kiss

Please please please kiss

2 Aug 2010

is there really that much left for feminism in modern britain ??
we do seem to have some of the best eqaulity laws in the world
then maybe they could help with the plight of fathers for justice and such like dunno

2 Aug 2010

i know the rest of the world is a little slow and will be regards certain practices but im more interested in the uk / civilised world
no the fathers for justice thing was more to the fact that by not taking on male plights as well could be seen a sexist dunno

which i do believe is the basis of early movements

2 Aug 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
is there really that much left for feminism in modern britain ??
we do seem to have some of the best eqaulity laws in the world
then maybe they could help with the plight of fathers for justice and such like

The main thing that would help the average fathers for justice member is a good solid kicking and a job.

2 Aug 2010

Quote by awayman
The main thing that would help the average fathers for justice member is a good solid kicking and a job.

Blimey..there was me thinking you was one big soft twit mod edit, name calling will not be tolertated lol

, when in reality your no different at all.
You should pop down to the Bridge next time we are at home, we can discuss aggro tactics.....if ya ard enough.:giggle:

2 Aug 2010

Quote by awayman
is there really that much left for feminism in modern britain ??
we do seem to have some of the best eqaulity laws in the world
then maybe they could help with the plight of fathers for justice and such like

The main thing that would help the average fathers for justice member is a good solid kicking and a job.
Or better costumes at least

2 Aug 2010

Quote by awayman
is there really that much left for feminism in modern britain ??
we do seem to have some of the best eqaulity laws in the world
then maybe they could help with the plight of fathers for justice and such like

The main thing that would help the average fathers for justice member is a good solid kicking and a job.
I am afraid I can not condone this kind of behaviour wink

2 Aug 2010

I am a very good judge actually.
The word cradle springs to mind.
A good old fashioned word we use at the bridge from time to time. innocent

3 Aug 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
The main thing that would help the average fathers for justice member is a good solid kicking and a job.

Blimey..there was me thinking you was one big soft twit mod edit, name calling will not be tolertated lol

, when in reality your no different at all.
You should pop down to the Bridge next time we are at home, we can discuss aggro tactics.....if ya ard enough.:giggle:
Dear darling Ken...
Do you remember the thread where I told you one of my defining characteristics was a long memory?
This is the one - http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopicpage/307781/40.html
It's the one where you tell us all that you used to be a Chelsea season ticket holder, but you don't go any more because you're such a hard working pillar of society.
So if I went to the Bridge would I find you there?
Anyway, FFJ...
A few years ago some social reject in a Batman costume was on top of the Tyne Bridge while Tony Blair was doing a speech at the Sage. There was a boat load of marines based at HMS Calliope to guard against any Islamic suicide kayakers from Seaton Carew or the like. Anyway, Batman is on top of the bridge, and the bronze commander from Northumbria Police had to send the marines a message asking if they'd kindly stop sining this Derek and Clive ditty over the shared radio channel.

3 Aug 2010

interesting :14 years ago a guy that worked for me was destroyed as a person and as a human being after his girlfriend took his son and went off with another bloke
he got the best solicitor paid for by his parents went to the royal courts of justice no less than 4 times
the judge threatened the girl with prison if she broke any more visiting/parental rights the father had on the third visit
she moved no less than 3 times to further parts of the country just to make it difficult
on his 4th visit to the royal courts of justice she failed to attend .when a warrant was issued it was to late she had met an Australian and had moved there with him
a 30 year old guy was broken he was a good reliable worker. bit of a gentle giant impeccable time keeper lived for his son .. he never abused was a good provider worked all the overtime he could get so that she and his son could always have better
now hes a drunk and a down and out . dunno

wonder why

3 Aug 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
now hes a drunk and a down and out . wonder why

Because he drinks heavily? dunno

The sentiments of FFJ is right, but the idiots that are the visable part of the organisation just lets it down.
IMO when the courts start upholding the decisions and jailing a parent who with-holds the child from the other parent then I will look on it differently. If they have a two week visitation right over the summer and the other parent plays silly buggers then off they pop for a quick holiday of their own and the other parent can then have a stress free holiday.
Will it work? Too draconian so there will be inequalities in this system
Dave_Notts

3 Aug 2010

Quote by awayman
So if I went to the Bridge would I find you there?

Possibly on occasion, as have a few mates there still.
Very nice people too.
Minus the boots now though.

3 Aug 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
The main thing that would help the average fathers for justice member is a good solid kicking and a job.

Blimey..there was me thinking you was one big soft twit mod edit, name calling will not be tolertated lol

, when in reality your no different at all.
You should pop down to the Bridge next time we are at home, we can discuss aggro tactics.....if ya ard enough.:giggle:
ahhhhh a footie thug of corse everything suddenly becomes clear

3 Aug 2010

Quote by bouncy332
ahhhhh a footie thug of corse everything suddenly becomes clear

No never a thug....just an ardent follower.
This may help though.

It is a very good read.

3 Aug 2010

Quote by flower411

now hes a drunk and a down and out . wonder why

Because he drinks heavily? dunno

The sentiments of FFJ is right, but the idiots that are the visable part of the organisation just lets it down.
IMO when the courts start upholding the decisions and jailing a parent who with-holds the child from the other parent then I will look on it differently. If they have a two week visitation right over the summer and the other parent plays silly buggers then off they pop for a quick holiday of their own and the other parent can then have a stress free holiday.
Will it work? Too draconian so there will be inequalities in this system
Dave_Notts
When the family courts start taking into account the needs of the children rather than doing everything they possibly can to keep children with their mothers their decisions may start to make some sense.
The law was changed in the 1990s.
People didn't change.