feminism

30 Jul 2010

last weekend we had my brother and his devote feminist wife over for the evening
when i say hard core she does the rallies the lot
well we normally enter a bit of banter like i try to get her to hold my ash tray get me a drink, just generally have a laff
during this banter i showed her this link

she read it then read it again and sort of withdrew as the evening went on . they left about midnight and i heard nothing till today
my brother dropped onto work today with a grin on his face and announced that when he got home monday she was reading the link i showed her ,and again on tuesday
by thursday she `had decided that i and the link was in fact right and that her veiws had nothing to do with women`s rights. but more to do with trying to live up to 3 brothers and competing with men in what she thought was a mans world
he did thank me for the best sex that they had thursday for a long time and she now wants to be more of a wife and less of a competitor
the only thing is i only teased her as a bit of fun and hold the veiws that all people are equal
guess she got me all wrong lol

30 Jul 2010

Seems she did indeedy get ya wrong Rob. wink

30 Jul 2010

we just loved reading that article - & the associated articles that go with it
never mind the flawed logic it's fantastic
what a great mind that guy has

30 Jul 2010

Feminism is fantastic, until they want us to change a plug for them. wink

30 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Feminism is fantastic, until they want us to change a plug for them.

<<<<< can change a plug!!! wink

30 Jul 2010

These thinly disguised personal vendettas are absolutely ridiculous innit.

30 Jul 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
Anyone who called themselves a feminist and was affected by such poorly thought out inaccurate arguments is either very stupid or had other issues she was disguising with the cloak of feminism
You know her,i leave it to you to decide which it was.
i am intruiged by the fact you think some blogs are worth reading though,,given your previous views.

Well at least the blog was supplied to read.
bolt

31 Jul 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
Anyone who called themselves a feminist and was affected by such poorly thought out inaccurate arguments is either very stupid or had other issues she was disguising with the cloak of feminism
You know her,i leave it to you to decide which it was.
i am intruiged by the fact you think some blogs are worth reading though,,given your previous views.

Well at least the blog was supplied to read.
bolt

if you have an objection with the decision of the mods,surely u should take it up with them
I personally - do not want to hear any more regarding the so called blog - even if said tongue in cheek.
Can we please drop it - both of you.

31 Jul 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
These thinly disguised personal vendettas are absolutely ridiculous innit.

how interesting ben
again you think this is about you and yours
its about a woman who`s beliefs where founded on competition with her brothers (only girl) and all that
who realised after reading a link to a site of someone i met and had the good fortune to spend two weeks with while on holiday ,that she was still competing but for no reason other than the past dunno

as for vendetta ??? against who ben there are a few feminist on the site or are you a feminist ben
kas ref to the blog : the relevance is that i showed the blog to someone else ?? i state no facts within that blog kas and i don`t use them to prove a weak point as some on here do wink

and just so were clear try listening to the first few lines of this the both of you

but if you want to discuss feminism feel free
because it always facinates the guilt feminist`s feel at being submissive in the bedroom

31 Jul 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
last weekend we had my brother and his devote feminist wife over for the evening
when i say hard core she does the rallies the lot
well we normally enter a bit of banter like i try to get her to hold my ash tray get me a drink, just generally have a laff
during this banter i showed her this link

she read it then read it again and sort of withdrew as the evening went on . they left about midnight and i heard nothing till today
my brother dropped onto work today with a grin on his face and announced that when he got home monday she was reading the link i showed her ,and again on tuesday
by thursday she `had decided that i and the link was in fact right and that her veiws had nothing to do with women`s rights. but more to do with trying to live up to 3 brothers and competing with men in what she thought was a mans world
he did thank me for the best sex that they had thursday for a long time and she now wants to be more of a wife and less of a competitor
the only thing is i only teased her as a bit of fun and hold the veiws that all people are equal
guess she got me all wrong lol

What is a devote feminist?

31 Jul 2010

A friend of mine told me about Patriarchy.
An interesting ideology that I presume still exists? Certainly not in this house though.
I found this which rather made me chuckle though.

31 Jul 2010

An interesting analogy from a Ukrainian woman on feminism.
Her views at the bottom I feel a lot of women will understand.

I know nothing about this as in this house it is me who does as he is told...could that be maleism?:giggle:

31 Jul 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
Bugger my links have gone,can a mod tell me if there was a problem with not i will repost as i think there is an interesting debate here about hat a feminist really is and what people believe a feminist to be.

If you posted your links after my last post - we had a problem with a few posts disappearing earlier, I am sure (hope) they will come back once the problem is sorted.
If you posted the links in the post I quoted - I have no idea as they were not there when I read this thread last night.
Hope that answers your question.

31 Jul 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
These thinly disguised personal vendettas are absolutely ridiculous innit.

how interesting ben
again you think this is about you and yours
its about a woman who`s beliefs where founded on competition with her brothers (only girl) and all that
who realised after reading a link to a site of someone i met and had the good fortune to spend two weeks with while on holiday ,that she was still competing but for no reason other than the past dunno

as for vendetta ??? against who ben there are a few feminist on the site or are you a feminist ben
kas ref to the blog : the relevance is that i showed the blog to someone else ?? i state no facts within that blog kas and i don`t use them to prove a weak point as some on here do wink

and just so were clear try listening to the first few lines of this the both of you

but if you want to discuss feminism feel free
because it always facinates the guilt feminist`s feel at being submissive in the bedroom
No guilt here,and im sub in far more than the point of femminism is that we should be free to be whatever we fact most sub femminsts i know find the fact they are bending traditional views of them rather hot.
Oh and dont asume every relationship a woman has is with a male . wink

and don`t assume liza is straight or my sister in law for that matter wink

31 Jul 2010

Does one have to be female to be a feminist?
Thank heavens the majority of thread contributors are gracious and dignified.

31 Jul 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?
Thank heavens the majority of thread contributors are gracious and dignified.

I suspect not. After all, I'm a lesbian, and I'm male! ;-)
bolt

31 Jul 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

31 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

31 Jul 2010

LOL cubes.
I will take kevs word for it although I spose I dont need yet another label.

31 Jul 2010

"Feminism : the belief that women should be allowed the same rights, power and opportunities as men and be treated in the same way, or the set of activities intended to achieve this state."
Swiped from an online dictionary (not Wiki for the Wikiphobes on here).
No mention of who is allowed to be a feminist. biggrin

The only antonym I can find for it is Misogynism. But that is defined as a 'hatred, distrust or dislike pf women'. Which doesn't seem like the opposite of feminsim at all.
I think it isn't at all surprising that no-one has ever needed a word that means "the belief that men should be allowed the same rights etc etc etc". :giggle:
Femisism certainly isn't about hating, replacing or deposing men. It is about ensuring each human has an equal (and I would like to add, sufficient) opportunity to make the best of their lives.

31 Jul 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

No that is too feminine to be sexist. wink

31 Jul 2010

Don't know if I'm a feminist or not (and don't care)......I believe that as the U.S. declaration of independence says we are all created equal and am content with that

31 Jul 2010

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Don't know if I'm a feminist or not (and don't care)......I believe that as the U.S. declaration of independence says we are all created equal and am content with that

That is why most of the world think the Yanks are tossers. lol

31 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Don't know if I'm a feminist or not (and don't care)......I believe that as the U.S. declaration of independence says we are all created equal and am content with that

That is why most of the world think the Yanks are tossers. lol

No....the yanks are tossers because they ignore one of the greatest pieces of prose ever written i.e. their own declaration of independence in favour of the rapacious capitalist bollocks they have now

31 Jul 2010

Nothing wrong with being a Capitalist...unless of course you don't own anything. wink

1 Aug 2010

Quote by Ben_welshminx
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?
Thank heavens the majority of thread contributors are gracious and dignified.

well ben according to nomas men can be pro feminism but not a feminist wink

as for dignified i do believe this thread is a "thinly disguised vendetta" (very undignified and ungracious quote would you not say ) dunno

1 Aug 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

therein lies the rub blue
equality is indeed not achievable
bolt

1 Aug 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

therein lies the rub blue
equality is indeed not achievable
bolt

So, some are more equal than others?

1 Aug 2010

Quote by Bluefish2009
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

therein lies the rub blue
equality is indeed not achievable
bolt

So, some are more equal than others?
depends really on interpretation blue
men are from mars and women from venus
im not sure thing are to bad in todays world blue. we have a lot of equality we have women in high powered jobs as mp`s etc etc things from here are pretty equal
and nothing more sexier than a very feminine woman :rascal::rascal:

1 Aug 2010

Quote by Lizaleanrob
Does one have to be female to be a feminist?

I presume that was said tongue in cheek.....if not we have serious problems. wave

But if I, Mr Bluefish can not be a feminist....... is that not sexist? dunno

therein lies the rub blue
equality is indeed not achievable
bolt

So, some are more equal than others?
depends really on interpretation blue
men are from mars and women from venus
im not sure thing are to bad in todays world blue. we have a lot of equality we have women in high powered jobs as mp`s etc etc things from here are pretty equal
and nothing more sexier than a very feminine woman:rascal::rascal:
:thumbup: