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How to spot a liar and a cheat

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How to spot a liar and a cheat in 15 easy steps
OK we all know that there are far more men than women on this site. We also know that of the women here, lots are in deep and meaningful relationships with their partners. Let’s not forget though that there are several single women here as well. The following is a word of warning to those single females. Many of the single females here came just looking for sex and there’s nothing wrong with that. Others came here looking for sex and then found someone they wanted more than just sex with. They are the people this thread is mainly directed at, although obviously it could work for other people as well.
You may well meet someone from this site and begin a “proper” relationship with them. Here are some points to bear in mind when spotting whether this person is genuine or lying to you.
1. If they can only see you on a rare basis despite professing to have deep feelings for you, beware. They may already be in a relationship with someone else
2. If they cannot see you on their birthday, it could be because they have a significant other who would object to not seeing them on such an occasion
3. If they cannot see you at Christmas, again it could be for this reason
4. If they arrange in July or August to spend New Year with you but then back out of it the week before Christmas for “reasons beyond their control” this could be the reasoning behind it
5. If all of the above happen, do put the facts together and make your own sense of it.
6. If you find yourself ignoring the advice of well meaning friends, ask yourself if it’s them that’s wrong, or whether you are actually ignoring what is staring you in the face
7. If your friends start asking questions about the fact that you don’t know your partner’s home telephone number and have never met their friends or family after several months, don’t make excuses, listen to your friends! They are right to find it suspicious, and so should you!
8. If your partner is suspicious of you and your online flirting or friendships with other forum members, it could be that they are attributing their own shortcomings to you (i.e., they are being unfaithful to someone, so therefore you are likely to do the same)
9. If you suspect a significant other in their life and you confront them about it, be aware of the difference between them defending themselves and attacking you. If they defend themselves and offer some concrete way of reassuring you that they are telling the truth, maybe they are. If on the other hand, they accuse you of being *paranoid/loopy/twisted (*delete as applicable) but refuse to prove you wrong, its more than likely because they are actually lying to you and therefore unable to offer and means of proof against your theory because your theory is in fact correct.
10. If they accidentally send you a text message meant for someone else saying that insert female names here] are making Christmas cards, be very suspicious if they later inform you that the females in question are in fact the neighbours’ children who have been invited round for said Christmas card making activities. Chances are that those females are in fact your “partner’s” significant other, and their/his/her child
11. If they offer to let you speak to a friend online for you to ask said friend whether the partner is in a relationship, don’t take up the offer. Chances are that the friend has been primed and they will just lie for their mate
12. If you frequently log into the forum and the “Latest Posts” times do not tally with the last time you logged in, remember that this could be because your partner has your password and is using it to spy on your private messages. Please also take note that on the main forum index page, there is a clock on the left hand side telling you the time now and the last time you visited. This could prove invaluable if you find yourself in this situation. Better to be aware of it beforehand than only finding out once it’s too late :doh:
13. If your partner ever accuses you of something you have actually done in private messages, for example, forwarding one of their messages to another person, wonder how they know this.
14. If they then lecture you on the fact that private messages are meant to be just that – PRIVATE – wonder to yourself how they have the cheek to say such a thing when they only know this information from reading YOUR “Private” messages.
15. Above all else, if your partner’s work colleague divulges the name of your “partner’s” partner and it doesn’t match your name but DOES match the name of one of "the neighbour's children", then all your suspicions are probably correct, and they are in fact a lying control freak who just wanted you because you had great tits and were, in his words “the best fuck going”
I hope this is of some help to those of you who may have been interested in finding a relationship in this place. I also hope that it is informative for those of you that aren’t.
Angel (a lot more cynical now than she has ever been before, despite having been hurt several times rolleyes)

Reading that brought back a few memories I'd forced to the back of my head. It's happened to a few of us and does hurt, but the positive side is that you can come out of it a better and wiser person.
I still fall for the wrong guys but hey ho just makes me realise that I have got emotions redface
You know what Angel - I cant believe what some people do and I am very protective of women in here - I often get far more angry for them than I do about myself when things happen. What men fail to realise is that women support each other openly on the forum, in the chatroom and in pm and if they are treating women badly it will become obvious at some stage.
I have dispaired with some of the things I have heard lately on this site - Course I understand that women can fall for men who then dont want anything more than a bit of fun. No problem with that concept and if a woman then falls for the guy and they have made it clear that it was only ever going to be a bit of fun then no one is to blame - thats life.
The whole point of a site like this is to have openess and honesty about the type of meets that you have. Lust and love are there to be used and abused and every time you meet someone you are taking a risk. This is different to be put in a situation where you become a victim to someones lack of integrity of you as a person with real feelings and is just putting you on a list which will be later bragged about.
I know in future I will be very wary of people I meet and have a relationship with if they are from here or else where. I wear my heart on my sleeve far to much. However I dont think that I can be hurt these days really - but I can do anger.
I hope that you have cried all those bloody tears away Angel and that you are back here for some good banter, love and friendship. Oh and as Dawn sayd you have a brill bum and tits hahahahahahaha
Love Corriexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Everything has been said.
Come here Angel hun
:therethere: :therethere: :therethere:
passionkiss sillyassionkiss: WOW you go girl..a swift :kick: for the bloke after all the trouble caused......good job you've got great friends on here to get you thrugh this.. lol :lol:
Hugs Angel smile :) :)
Good to see you back passionkiss ... so when the next AS party ;) ...
Missed you loads on the forums - it's so good to see you back and smiling ;)
C xx
ouch!
dunno whether to offer you a :therethere: or a (((hug))) or a kiss so i'll settle for all 3, and a passionkiss for good measure! smile
chin up Angel. t'is a crap way to make a comeback, but glad you're back on form regardless! :)
love n stuff
neil x x x
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Look for his press card.

On purely professional and personal levels, ouch!
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Unfortunately can't comment on Angel's tits but yours look fiiiiiine Dawn wink
Bev
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Angel, I suggest that you get your tits out for 2 reasons:
1. So that we can compare them with Dawn's (well ok then not compare just ogle both pairs)
2. It will help you release all that upset, by releasing your tits

Thank you and you are so right.
Come on Angel, get em out for the girls :giggle:
Well as ACs not going to post one, I will. Best one I could find (stolen from the SH calendar :grin: )
Honesty gets it's reward when all's said and done. When you feel comfortable with yourself the need to lie goes away.
It's one of life's most difficult lessons to learn but hey! One of the early steps to becoming a Jeddi. (Did I spell that right?).
Welcome back to the land of the living Angel. kiss

Oh and by the way! No particular sex has the monopoly on telling lies.
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Wahey Countess, knew somebody would put it here lol
Bev
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Unfortunately can't comment on Angel's tits but yours look fiiiiiine Dawn wink
Bev
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Angel, I suggest that you get your tits out for 2 reasons:
1. So that we can compare them with Dawn's (well ok then not compare just ogle both pairs)
2. It will help you release all that upset, by releasing your tits

Thank you and you are so right.
Come on Angel, get em out for the girls :giggle:
Well as ACs not going to post one, I will. Best one I could find (stolen from the SH calendar :grin: )

:shock: Countess!!! :shock: smackbottom :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom:
There are actually better ones but I'd need someone to host them for me ;)
well, i have to say i am absoloutly disguested!
angel.. i know we had talked about this at lenth.. but i am still shocked!
i am also hurt on your behalf, but like i have always said to you - you will never be the one losing out honeybunch.
you deserve sooo much better than what you have been given, and i know that one day you will get what you should.
keep your chin up hun.
will speak to you soon.
x x x x x x x
(((((((Hugs)))))))))
Angel, I want his name, his address, his phone number, details of his immediate family, details of any distant family......and the name of his little pet dog! mad :x :x :x

I`ll sort it wink
Venusxxx
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Angel Chat I hope you feel better soon.
kiss for Angel to help wipe away some of the tears.
Judy

Thanks Judy :kiss: back atcha.
Just so everyone knows though, I've spent 3 weeks crying, then thinking I was ok again, then crying again. I've actually come through the crying phase and taken a long hard look at things, done a bit of digging, told a lie (just the one though and only so that his colleague would tell me the partner's name!) and finally seen what was blatantly obvious to a lot of people a long time ago.
Posting my original post in this thread was the most nerve wracking thing I've done in a long time. I was shaking, heart racing and palms sweating. I wasn't even sure that the thread would stay here for very long.
Contrary to what someone said last night, I have nothing to hide. My house was as open as my heart was. My children were involved and liked him. My friends met him, and many many people told us what a lovely couple we were. How different things can seem from the outside.
This has been a kind of therapy for me. I know that the information I've found out proves beyond doubt that I'm right, but the mind games continue even now. I can hold my head high and I've nothing to be ashamed of. I await developments with interest though.
Big hugs angel, I know exactly what you mean hunny, been there done that myself rolleyes It's not easy but you will get through this and be all the stronger for it :therethere:
You are brave and I admire you Angel. When people are deceitful they need to be reminded of the hurt they cause then, like with any grief, you move on ..............wiser, stronger, empowered by your own inner strength which makes you the woman you are.
Love Corriexxxx
sorry angel, i didnt mean that you were old, it was just a term of endearment, anyway, nobody is as old as me. wink
Good on you for starting this thread Angel. I know how much you've agonised over it and what you've done is very brave IMO.
As you say, it's often easy to miss what seems obvious to other people when you're the one directly involved, so the points you raised in your original post may well serve as an eye-opener to anyone in a similar situation - from their position it's an objective view that they might not otherwise see, so well done for that.
Love and hugs to you mate, and you know where the shoulder is. kiss
Ice
Good for you Angel, I think you're fantastic kiss ...keep toughing it out, we're all behind you...
Mike.
Quote by Angel Chat
My friends met him, and many many people told us what a lovely couple we were. How different things can seem from the outside.

I think many of us have been there Sweetie.
As to the "mind games" - don't let him - or anyone play them. Easier said than done - I know. But in time you might see that it's "us" that let "them" play the mind games with us by allowing them into our minds. If you follow that. I'm not sure I do LOL
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As to the "mind games" - don't let him - or anyone play them. Easier said than done - I know. But in time you might see that it's "us" that let "them" play the mind games with us by allowing them into our minds. If you follow that. I'm not sure I do LOL

I do follow it Db. He can only play games with my mind if I allow it to happen. Much like Libra Love's (I think!) sig.... "nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent". That is very true, and nobody has my consent to make me feel inferior. I'm a good honest nice person, and nobody can take that away from me. It's taken me a long time to get to this place in my mind, and I intend to stay here smile
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I do follow it Db. He can only play games with my mind if I allow it to happen. Much like Libra Love's (I think!) sig.... "nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent". That is very true, and nobody has my consent to make me feel inferior. I'm a good honest nice person, and nobody can take that away from me. It's taken me a long time to get to this place in my mind, and I intend to stay here smile

I am so glad to hear that.
Now get over to LMU, write something on the side of a cow, then get across here and get yer kit off :twisted:
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Now get over to LMU, write something on the side of a cow, then get across here and get yer kit off :twisted:

rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Who let you in on the secret that God loves a trier? lol I'll be there when I'm good and ready smackbottom (LMU that is!)
Thankyou AC for drawing this to my attention last night and I'm sorry I missed it the first time.
Big hugs to you, hun. Usual stuff ... what don't kill you makes you stronger ... don't let the bastards get you down ... live and LEARN ... and yes, I can absolutely guarantee they are not all like that!
I think the worst lie I've been told was my ex telling me he was infertile from testicular cancer. He was very upset and asked me not to speak to his family about it cos it would only upset them too. He'd been in remission for over a year, allegedly. It broke his heart that he was 'getting on' and could never be a father. He knew I am dead set against abortion (for me personally, not for others) but I didn't want kids for a long time, if ever. Now I have a 6 year old. rolleyes
The next worst lie was my more recent ex telling me he wasn't anything like the manipulative, aggressive, jealous, control freak that I'd been with before him. Turned out to be his clone.
The most horrible thing is that it does make you bitter and cynical and I find it so hard to open up, trust and let someone in. I'm scared of that intimacy. Leaving myself wide open for all the hurt again ... I'm doing my best though.
Good luck, AC xxxxx
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I wish I had known you two years ago Angel rolleyes

Ah but 2 years ago I hadn't learned this lesson MQ. Glad you came out the other side, but I will be doing my best not to become jaded (maybe a bad choice of word there :rollsmile or bitter. I'll just be that bit more careful who I trust with my heart in future.
Hugs to you :therethere: kiss
Angel hun, you have come thru it way better than I did
my respects to you for that
not all us men are total prickretardedlieingtwofacedcheatingusingcunts, a awful lot of us are just genuine honest guys, sure we all have our faults, sure we make mistakes...... but we dont go out to hurt or decieve
Dont let the past ruin the future, take it from me, if you allow it to influence the future, life gets pretty sad sad be happy, have fun, enjoy life