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Quote by st3v3
I think Elliot's off getting some beer and I've only just finished reading this thread, we did look at SH for a long time and know that the community is the reason why the site is successful, we wouldn't want to do anything to change that. Also thanks to everyone that has spent a lot of time putting comments together for us.
I read earlier about concerns of privacy etc. But at this moment in time nothing has changed on the site and any changes made will have to ensure that no laws or acts or data protection or broken.

For a comapny that spent so much time looking at the site you seem to have no idea of how strongly the people here care for each other I have looked at your company website and would also like to know who the other 3 of the 14 people are as there are only 11 people listed on the site what is your and their interest in a Swinging Site if not for the database of people using that site. Lets face it from your answers to the questions your stonewalling the members.
These are the answers for Him N Her
1. Absolutely and genuinely no idea if we will make this site international, my gut feeling is no but please do not beat me up for it!.
2. We will continue to support the munches and help out wherever we can, we do want to be actively involved here.
Here are a few other bits that have been asked for public airing over PM
1. Honestly we have not considered creating a Gay Dating part to the site, lets look at this after we have got the main site sorted out.
2. Again every single member on this site without exception will get the free premium membership upgrade.
3. After the first 12 months one of two things will happen
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
Basically this is the theory, we never want any of the existing community members to pay for anything. If you are active you will never pay!. If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
Please please please, before i get kicked bitten and bruised again as I said we will discuss together what makes a community member and agree that before the 12 months are up.
Quote by Shireen_Mids
i noticed that you said the chatroom will be flash based
could i point out that some members suffer with ill health and having something that flashes at that could effect them and make them ill which is why vivid colour fonts are banned i for one wouldent like to see my freinds back in hospital because of that been there before and it wasnt nice having the worry
many thanks

It isn't a chatroom that flashes Voddy, it's flash based, flash being like mIRC/Java. It is a bit like the 2 combined from what I can gather
Shireen
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Edited to add..... Just been in a flash based chatroom and it is just like Java..... It's gonna take some erm........ getting used to....
If that is gonna be the basis for the new chatroom then you can count me out.....
I wont be using it at all..
Quote by Martin_M
These are the answers for Him N Her
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
p.

Dogging locations are to be kept secret between the participants involved surely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you find you will have a few angry people if they follow up on your suggestion
rolleyes
I am sorry both those positions are now closed, we really must update our web site!! Seems that there has been to much else going on at the moment.
Scooter
I said these will be agreed by the community they are examples only until the community decides what makes a community member. Perhaps you could put a suggestion forward for that in the next few months. wink
Quote by Martin_M
Scooter
I said these will be agreed by the community they are examples only until the community decides what makes a community member. Perhaps you could put a suggestion forward for that in the next few months. wink

I think you should read the dogging faq, then you will understand what i was getting at
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/5700.html
here you go
Quote by Martin_M
These are the answers for Him N Her
1. Absolutely and genuinely no idea if we will make this site international, my gut feeling is no but please do not beat me up for it!.
Sounds good so far
2. We will continue to support the munches and help out wherever we can, we do want to be actively involved here.
excellent
Here are a few other bits that have been asked for public airing over PM
1. Honestly we have not considered creating a Gay Dating part to the site, lets look at this after we have got the main site sorted out. dunno
2. Again every single member on this site without exception will get the free premium membership upgrade.
Sounds even better
3. After the first 12 months one of two things will happen
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
No problem with that :bounce: :bounce:
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
OK, would not expect anything else
Basically this is the theory, we never want any of the existing community members to pay for anything. If you are active you will never pay!. If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
Yup, perfectly agreeable
Please please please, before i get kicked bitten and bruised again as I said we will discuss together what makes a community member and agree that before the 12 months are up.

smackbottom :kick: duel flipa :shock: :shock: oooops, sorry couldnt help myself :twisted:
All sounds pretty fair to me so far, Thanks for taking the time, a lot of companies would not have bothered and just got on and done it, respect for that at least.
Thanks, thats fine TOGETHER we will work out what a community member looks like Promise you can start a thread on it now if you like!.
Quote by Martin_M
If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.

I have to say I think this statement, by way of example, captures a lot of the spirit of SH. I am encouraged.
Quote by Pete_sw
All sounds pretty fair to me so far, Thanks for taking the time, a lot of companies would not have bothered and just got on and done it, respect for that at least.

I have to say, ditto.
I know it has been asked, but try as I might, I cant find an answer sad
Badges.........at munch events Ice Pie had/has permission to use the SH logo/s etc. He is our (for now as far as I know) still our resident badge maker for munches and sometimes socials. I work alongside him where I can and if he is not attending then I am his partner in crime and I make the badges, making them personal to the specific party.
So my question is, (at least for the foreseeable future) can we still use the designs/logos. biggrin
Quote by Martin_M
Thanks, thats fine TOGETHER we will work out what a community member looks like Promise you can start a thread on it now if you like!.

butt ugly everyone of em :smug:
On a related point we had a members 2006 calendar on the go. I would suggest we can it in the short term until everyone has had a chance to settle down. However I would be interested in the logo use as I have often done little bits n bobs with SH stuff. Notably last years calendar design.
Quote by davej
Thanks, thats fine TOGETHER we will work out what a community member looks like Promise you can start a thread on it now if you like!.

butt ugly everyone of em :smug:
Always said some of us spend too much time gazing into the mirror!! :giggle:
Quote by westerross
Thanks, thats fine TOGETHER we will work out what a community member looks like Promise you can start a thread on it now if you like!.

butt ugly everyone of em :smug:
Always said some of us spend too much time gazing into the mirror!! :giggle:
we dont have mirrors in this house tune, mrs davej always asks me how she looks before we go out and I always answer that she looks stunning, I aint about to hang something on the wall that proves me to be a liar :smug:
after reading all this thread and after much deliberation I have come up with a couple of questions.
I get a free ringtone with membership
2. does this then mean I will get one a week for the next 6 months at per tone. rolleyes
Regards to Badges Logos or T shirts or anything else that has a brand on it.
We are in the process of giving the site a few improvements that include a spring clean that could include the logo. You see this is the problem we are wanting to sponser the production of the badges, caps, pens along with perhaps T shirts or anything else that you want. In other words If you want them within reason we can help fund them!.
The current logo does not lend itself to well to being printed, before I get hit again here are the options.
1. Live with it as we know over 30% of people do not like change!
2. Put some alternative designs together and take a vote on it
3. Simply come back to it at a later stage
In the short term please feel free to use what you want any suggestions on points 1-3 welcome
Martin one thing you need to be aware of is the clandestine nature of this site. Very few people here advertise the fact they are here. Swingers tend to keep to themselves. So while there will no doubt be interest in SH cups n stuff, it may well be less than you think.
We do have a pin badge and you will note there are no pics of it anywhere. It is not the logo, for the very reason that we don't want everyone to know what it means smile As for logo change, I don't thnk the site will implode if we come up with new ideas, just I don't expect many people to want to wear it to work ;)
Quote by Martin_M
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
.

I've not been too unhappy so far - been content to let the more intelligent carry my burden for me. But this raises something which impinges on me directly.
I spend up to six months each year travelling and even at the best of times I am not a profilic contributor. I've just looked it up - posts a day. The next time I go away for five or six months, will I come back to find my free membership terminated?
Mollie
On point one, can I suggest that by rounding things to the nearest pound like M&S do, will remove the need for change and appease those that dont like it.
.......davej thinking all the time...thinking all the time... :smug:
Quote by Martin_M
Regards to Badges Logos or T shirts or anything else that has a brand on it.
We are in the process of giving the site a few improvements that include a spring clean that could include the logo. You see this is the problem we are wanting to sponser the production of the badges, caps, pens along with perhaps T shirts or anything else that you want. In other words If you want them within reason we can help fund them!.
The current logo does not lend itself to well to being printed, before I get hit again here are the options.
1. Live with it as we know over 30% of people do not like change!
2. Put some alternative designs together and take a vote on it
3. Simply come back to it at a later stage
In the short term please feel free to use what you want any suggestions on points 1-3 welcome

Can I make a suggestion that you obtain the "official" SH pin first? I'm actually quite keen on the current layout/colour scheme and the pins are very uncomplicated and the logo used could easily be replicated. If you just use the same logo fine, however, if you're going to add web addresses and the like then hmm not so sure, a lot of us are in this lifestyle and have families to protect, so I'm a little wary of merchandising it too much.
Swinging isn't like dating ........ you can promote a dating site quite well, promoting swinging on the other hand could prove detrimental to the lifestyle and participants. You must be wary of media interests ... according to the newspapers we are all raving sex mad perverts who are fair game to be paraded and exposed (so to speak). Marketing it be merchandising it could prove very dangerous and ring a lot of alarm bells.
However, :giggles: I'd love an SH pen rolleyes.
Cali x
Quote by Calista
However, :giggles: I'd love an SH pen rolleyes.
Cali x

What as long as it vibrates smile
Quote by Him'nHer

However, :giggles: I'd love an SH pen rolleyes.
Cali x

What as long as it vibrates smile
:shock: surprised what are you implying?????
Never thought of that put me down for one of them too ;)
C x
Regarding Logo etc
Yes I understand what you are saying about being outgoing well if that is the case we will just perhaps clean the look and feel up a bit for the site.
Thanks for your input, much appreciated
Martin
Quote by Martin_M
3. After the first 12 months one of two things will happen
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
Basically this is the theory, we never want any of the existing community members to pay for anything. If you are active you will never pay!. If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
Please please please, before i get kicked bitten and bruised again as I said we will discuss together what makes a community member and agree that before the 12 months are up.

Can i ask a question in regards to this....Obviously this covers those very well in the forums... but.I know a lot of people who use the chatroom and only come into the forums just to put their name down for munches.....can i ask how they will be covered after 12 months....as it been stated before, different people use different parts of the site and they aren't always intertwining...
you are probably sick of being grilled by now..... .
God I am so bored with this lol :lol: :lol:
I was in the chatroom last night when half of us nearly ate Martin alive.
Can we not just see what changes are implimented and then decide if we stay/go?? dunno
ok i'll shut up now!! bolt
Shell
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Fabio,
I'm the thread-killer. I just get ignored.
Quote by maidinheaven

If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
.

I've not been too unhappy so far - been content to let the more intelligent carry my burden for me. But this raises something which impinges on me directly.
I spend up to six months each year travelling and even at the best of times I am not a profilic contributor. I've just looked it up - posts a day. The next time I go away for five or six months, will I come back to find my free membership terminated?
Mollie
Well I lived without SH before. But lots of people enjoyed my tales, yes? Maybe even found them useful.
Maybe I will have to find an internet cafe every week or so and log on, make a post and keep my licence. But sometimes you can't.
Mollie
Quote by fabio grooverider

3. After the first 12 months one of two things will happen
If you are an active community participent, ie a genuine user and contributer to this site by posting in the forum or submitting dogging locations or storys etc, you will continue to get free premuim membership ongoing. We will consult you on the gate for this in the next few months.
If you are not an active community participent then after 12 months free premium upgrade your account will be reduced to what you have now!. Then you can decide to use it like that or pay to have it as premium again to use the extra bells and whissles.
Basically this is the theory, we never want any of the existing community members to pay for anything. If you are active you will never pay!. If on the other hand you are not a community spirited person and come here just to look at peoples pictures then expect to have to pay to do that to support the non paying community members.
Please please please, before i get kicked bitten and bruised again as I said we will discuss together what makes a community member and agree that before the 12 months are up.

Can i ask a question in regards to this....Obviously this covers those very well in the forums... but.I know a lot of people who use the chatroom and only come into the forums just to put their name down for munches.....can i ask how they will be covered after 12 months....as it been stated before, different people use different parts of the site and they aren't always intertwining...
you are probably sick of being grilled by now..... .
Fabio, I would imagine that because of the introduction of a universal login this would be covered under that. (apologies for poor grammar I'm so tired).
Cali x
added in edit ... apologies for forgetting to log Morbius off the laptop too :doh: rolleyes
ooo my god my head as turned to mush
so many questions so many opinions
my head hurts
:eeek: :confused: :eeek: :confused: :eeek: :confused:
well firstly
we want a pin biggrin :D :D :D :D
secondly
at first i was pissed with it all but after reading what elliot and martin have been saying (naughty naughty for blowing your top martin) im am some what put at ease.
thirdly
we need to all stop bitching and face the fact that it as happened and ther is nothing we can do about it they have said they will listen to us and we have no option but to believe them and hope for the best so for all our benefits lets stop seeing them as the enemy and try and help them as and when we can.
its happened lets deal with it and make the best ov it
so welcome to you all and hope you enjoy the community as much as we do
love katy and kev
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