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ive been a doorman for 12 years and know the ins and outs of weapons if you was to use your nailfile it would be classed as a weapon, you can use as much force as you like as long you fear for your safety you have to amost a lawyer to understand what is reasonable force i.e a robber holds you up at knife point and demands your money etc.. you hit him once and he gos to the floor you would not be charged with assult if you kicked him when he was on the floor you would charged because you had the chance to leave the scene
I think at the end of the day you do whatever is necessary to avoid becoming another statistic, and worry about the legal implications later. The law tells me this- Don`t use pepper spray to get out of trouble, or we will lock you up for five years. Pepper spray, , , or five years. Not much of a choice is it? I didn`t actively seek out pepper spray in this country (the stuff I bought in the US is still out there, I wasn`t daft enough to try to get it home on the plane!), but since I have it, I`ll use it if I have to, because I don`t have enough faith in my own abilties to take on an attacker physically....and win. I could kill someone with a brick. I very much doubt if I`d kill someone with pepper spray.
Venusxxx
very true you have to do what you gotta do to get out that situation as my criminal record will tell you and wouldnt lose any sleep going to town on someone who wants to give it a bash ,act first think later
Quote by gilbert

my mum always made me carry a ...........dont laugh
brick in my handbag ......to swing if anyone grabbed me
and a pepper pot in my pocket...
trying saying that after a few shandys
:sparring:

I thought all the nice young ladies carried half bricks in Liverpool, just the tough ones carried the full house brick!!! :twisted:
GIlbert
no doubt asking for it!!!
begging for it............ :twisted:
who said i was a nice lady
Quote by redstilletto

my mum always made me carry a ...........dont laugh
brick in my handbag ......to swing if anyone grabbed me
and a pepper pot in my pocket...
trying saying that after a few shandys
:sparring:

I thought all the nice young ladies carried half bricks in Liverpool, just the tough ones carried the full house brick!!! :twisted:
GIlbert
no doubt asking for it!!!
begging for it............ :twisted:
who said i was a nice lady
There's nice and then there is Red
:twisted: :twisted:
Gilbert
I've been reading stats about for the past few months (yes, a sad life, but someone's got to do it)
If you really want the stats, then this site has all you will ever need, and then more.
The maximum sentence for is, on conviction, life imprisonment. Which means what it says, even if released on licence the offender can be recalled to serve the remainder of the term for even minor offences.

Several new sexual offences appear in this act, as if there were not enough already.
However, before you start criticising the law for not doing the job, you have to remember that in the majority of the cases it is one persons word against anothers. Which explains the low conviction rate.
All this is in the home office report at the url above, it makes for grim reading, and is lengthy.
Quote by bluexxx
I don't think anyone would deny that false claims are wrong and just downright selfish rolleyes
Easy, i'm not in any camp wrt profiling and I'm certainly not one of Canter's cronies. I don't like the smallest space analysis stuff that the Canter group do. Some statistics are just better than others, I guess :roll:

It's all playing the odds to me. Just one has a more accurate figure than the other.
Quote by bluexxx
I've no doubt that I was lucky, but did I ever tell you about the one with the knife. No? Oh well, better not, might give you nightmares wink

I take it Satin doesn't let you out the house on your own anymore, all the trouble that seems to find you. :roll: :P
Quote by bluexxx
Staying safe isn't as easy as saying "don't go to dodgy places on your own" or "get a cab". Do you know that 200 women every year are sexually assaulted in London alone cos they got into a cab? The point is, you can't foresee sexual assault, it is the perpetrator that is wrong, so why should people have to watch every move? If you have to go everywhere with friends just cos you're scared of getting jumped on that is no life at all. I've been cruising for sex in parks on my own and had less shit than I have walking down the street in daylight - makes no sense, does it :shock:

You raise the point of 200 women being sexually assaulted.....out of how many cab journeys in London? Sorry I'm just being picky here. Yes you stand a chance of bieng assaulted almost anywhere (I bet you're not even safe at a police convention).
Yep you should be able to live your life without having to worry about being attacked in any way, but unfortunately that's sometimes difficult in this "society". I wasn't saying stay locked in your house, just to try and make the best decisions you can. Try not to make yourself an easy target. I'm not saying that this will be cast-iron, 100% guaranteed to keep you safe, but it can't hurt to think is it really worth saving 10 mins to nip through that dark wooded arera after a night out etc.
There is no 100% way of avoiding becoming a victim, but as you say positive thought and action can work in your favour, just not in every case.
The point I was making is there is NO hard and fast rule about how to behave in these situations.