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Okay... Admit it... you all voted for them...
in which case... thank you!!!!
Me and my betting syndicate.... 50 quid at 150-1.. jobs a goodun.... lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
They won't win fabs but Mr Cowell is very good at marketing and promotion.
Kill them, kill them all now .....NO PRISONERS
I always thought S Cowell had a bit of decency about him, but after watching tonight, he is full of shit.
He ALWAYS bleats on about how this is a " singing competition " yet decided to once again lose his bottle.
What a smug hypocrite he is.
I really hope none of his acts wins the show....smug arrogant and a bottler, and decided not to do the RIGHT thing. He has gone right down into the gutter in my opinions, and I think the decision to keep those two twots in,just goes to show that the X factor, is running out of time.
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Are we talking about a show on the television
Sorry we were listening to wagner on radio 3
the ring cycle always makes me feel so ......

A show? On the tv?.....no. lol
Yes the Wagner was exquisite.
Mmmm you see it isnt a competition voted for by the public. Th public vote always leaves a choice of two.
Put your cynical head on. The only judge is simon the other 3 are his employees and act as they are told.
Therefore simon can protect whoever he decides should win and create maximum melodrama along the way.
I fully expect the twins to be in the final 3 or 4 and always have.
Fabulous wager Fabio---can i join your syndicate.
The public vote means nothing apart from in the final show.
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I always thought S Cowell had a bit of decency about him, but after watching tonight, he is full of shit.
He ALWAYS bleats on about how this is a " singing competition " yet decided to once again lose his bottle.
What a smug hypocrite he is.
I really hope none of his acts wins the show....smug arrogant and a bottler, and decided not to do the RIGHT thing. He has gone right down into the gutter in my opinions, and I think the decision to keep those two twots in,just goes to show that the X factor, is running out of time.

You cant really blame Mr Cowell. Lucy got less public vote plain and simple and therefore she was the correct contestant to leave the competition.
The X Factor is more "guided" but only to a certain extent. I think actually it all goes down to the public vote about 3 shows from the end not just in the final as someone said. Anyone who survives 2 or 3 judges votes will go out in those last shows so it wont aid them to win. Expect Jedward to survive next week maybe now as anyone who didnt vote for them this week who has before will pick up the phone next week.
Pop idol was ultimately a fairer show. We voted contestants into the final shows and there was no judging decisions.
As long as it has ££££££ in it Mr Cowell will vote for it.
No ££££ in it, then they are out.
Mr Cowell only sees people IMO as money making machines for his business, if they don't make him any money they are out.
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I always thought S Cowell had a bit of decency about him, but after watching tonight, he is full of shit.
He ALWAYS bleats on about how this is a " singing competition " yet decided to once again lose his bottle.
What a smug hypocrite he is.
I really hope none of his acts wins the show....smug arrogant and a bottler, and decided not to do the RIGHT thing. He has gone right down into the gutter in my opinions, and I think the decision to keep those two twots in,just goes to show that the X factor, is running out of time.

My thoughts exactly - I lost all respect for him last night. He said he would vote based on their 'sing off' performance and then 10 minutes later, didn't vote at all. I'm sure the public will damn him for it too confused But at the end of the day, as Sarah said, he's a business man and will make decisions based on what makes him (and not his acts) the most money wink
Correct me if I am wrong, but apart from the week when Daniel his own act was in the bottom two, most weeks Simon has let the public vote decide, maybe he feels thats a fairer choice, people can't complain if they don't vote.
I am disappointed at the result but have never voted on these type of shows at this stage only in the final, but there are others I am happy to see win and as there is only one winner and I don't think it would have been Lucie I see it as just an elimination of numbers.
Im actually disgusted in last night's events.
Not only is Simon Cowell a wimp.. But he's just taking the piss out of the contestants. And as if that wasn't enough, Loui Walsh then sat there sticking 2 fingers up at the audience.
When the contestants enter that show they do it with hope that there dreams come true not for a 'laugh'. They put a lot of emotion into it for there lives to be ripped apart in a tit for tat game between the shall we say... 'bookends'. It really is an absolute joke.
If Loui had all his 3 groups still in it, no doubt he would be taking it very seriously and not labelling it as 'fun'.
How can Simon sit back and say 'He's wiping the slate clean and just going off tonight's deadlock performance' and then pass it to the public vote when Lucie was clearly 200% better than Jedward.
I for one will no longer be watching the programme again.
Lil mad
Lilmiss as you say they are toying with these peoples dreams.
Last night he knew who was the worst act, he has slated them from day one. Lets be fair the twins are rubbish at singing, and Cowell has always stated it is a " singing competition ".
Lucy may well have not won the show, but her dreams have been shattered by a guy who thinks he is king pin, and can lose his bottle. He I thought would never have done that.....he used to be honest with his voting.
What is now going to be worse than last night, is that Danni will get her revenge on him, but to do that will kick out a contestent that does not deserve to go.
There will be a week when one of his acts is in the bottom two, it could be anyone of the boys, and it will be her who has the final vote. She will then get her revenge but to the detriment of that act.
He knows in his own mind what he did last night sucks. Lucy had been a brilliant singer but we know it is the public that decides who is in the bottom two. But the judges I understand voting for their own acts thats fine, but when the judges whose acts are not there have their vote, I would have thought they would have acted impartially and with honesty.
I do not like Cowell's smug attitude, and last night his inability to do the " right thing " has destroyed a young womans dreams and aspirations, all because he chickened it.
As they just said on the news...." it is rigged ", and I now believe that too.
Cowell is a fraud and a cheat, and he will get what is coming to him....I will wait patiently.
I happen to hear them errr sing one night - if you can call it that. Wish I hadn't! confused :? :?
I put up this thread originally in mirth, but I'll have my 2 penneth now....
its interesting to see how everyone is seeing this...
2 weeks ago... miss frank vs daryl in the final vote... Cheryl was the one copped out and let it go to the public vote... no one complained then....
last week.... rachel vs lloyd in the final vote... simon actually said rachel was the better singer and still copped out, yet let it go to the final vote... no one complained then...
this week.... same as last week... an everyone is up in arms....
I am not saying I like jedward... but the fact still remains that Lucie got the least votes........
if the vote had gone the other way would we be having this discussion....
in the end, maybe the moral of the story is the vote vote and vote...... no act is safe....
if daryl had gone... people would have been up in arms...
if lloyd had gone... people would have been up in arms...
what we have seen over the last 3 weeks is consistancy.. in that fact that the judge who had the deciding vote have chickened out of "dropping the hammer"
just out of interest.. did any of you actually vote for lucie.. or did you just assume that she would be safe....
I voted for Lucie.. Twice. Ok that is only 1 person voting 2 times, but its still votes.
I also think Simon did what he did because at some point he will be needing Loui to help him when and if one of his acts comes face to face in the bottom two with Cheryle Coles act Joe.
This is of course only my thoughts but i won't lose sleep over it lol and im certainly not going get into a huge row or debate :lol:
Its always been my belief that altho the public do phone in, it has absolutely no bearing on the outcome .
Last year the words were "the voting has now ended,and 2secs later here is the results."
Don't care how fast a system they use to count the votes ,there is no way they could count them and then write out the result and give to the announcer in 2secs.
So they changed the format this year to make it look as if the votes actually count confused
It's Mr Cowell who choses the winners and the losers as it is his show after all.
why are we blaming mr cowell i personally blame mr walsh for being a total idiot for putting the boys through in the first place
i feel it was kinda cruel to put them up for ridicule in a competition like he has ok so they get some good publicity but lets face it most of it is slating them big style and as positive as they might seem to stay its got to have an effect on them
i feel they have been used and abused by louis he knew they would cause controversy and has courted it to the full extent
i used to think they were arrogant little shits but as time goes on i see they are much humbler than i fist judged them and ok maybe this experience has changed them for the better in the long run but i think just knocking them out of the game in the audition rounds would of done that too and it would of saved us all the pain of having to endure watching them all these weeks
so if we r killing anyone can we kill louis for being an absolute twat
If the judges duck out of judging and leave it to the "public vote" why bother to have the sing off in the first place? Just eliminate the contestant with the lowest vote...at least then they won't have to go through the anguish of the sing off. Of course SC would then have to find something else to fill the last half hour with!!
mr b here now shes had her say il have mine they should of all been shot at birth the twins the judges and all those that vote for it i cant believe that crap was on tele and i had to watch the rugby highlights the day after the match oh and while im ranting thank god for the boxing sanity prevailed
Bouncy you should get SKY....there is plenty to watch to stop ya moaning. wink
Let's face it, the x-factor has never been about the singing ... it's always been about how many viewers Simon Cowell can pull in.
It was all four judges who put John and Edward through to the round where they go to the judges houses - if they really thought they were crap how did they get that far.
Simon Cowell put them through because he knew they would cause controversy. If they weren't in it what would we all be talking about?
The x-factor has always been about the judges. If it was about the contestants there would be more of them still around now, making money. Leona Lewis was a fluke they didn't expect.
It's a shame because the contestants are the pawns in their game ... once the show is finished I don't think Simon and co really care what happens to any of them. There should be a show called Judge Factor, see who can actually make a winner into a success!
John and Edward, love them or hate them, are two 17 year old lads who are being used. I actually felt really sorry for them last night. If Simon had sent them home x-factor would have lost half of it's viewers.
Ok ... rant over rolleyes
Mrs Secksy
"GHOSTBUSTERS!!!"
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Let's face it, the x-factor has never been about the singing ... it's always been about how many viewers Simon Cowell can pull in.
It was all four judges who put John and Edward through to the round where they go to the judges houses - if they really thought they were crap how did they get that far.
Simon Cowell put them through because he knew they would cause controversy. If they weren't in it what would we all be talking about?
The x-factor has always been about the judges. If it was about the contestants there would be more of them still around now, making money. Leona Lewis was a fluke they didn't expect.
It's a shame because the contestants are the pawns in their game ... once the show is finished I don't think Simon and co really care what happens to any of them. There should be a show called Judge Factor, see who can actually make a winner into a success!
John and Edward, love them or hate them, are two 17 year old lads who are being used. I actually felt really sorry for them last night. If Simon had sent them home x-factor would have lost half of it's viewers.
Ok ... rant over rolleyes
Mrs Secksy

Funny you should say that - i think of it this way - if they go, simons revenue goes down due to lower phone votes - if they stay indignant from cheshire joins the rant, as does outraged from london etc....newspapers make money like mad and so chat forums increase memberships and all of a sudden .....here we are all arguing about it.
Simon Cowell is a very crafty clever man - hats off to him for stirring up the hornets nest - im sure he has increased the phone voters 100%
I wish I had thought of that bolt
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Let's face it, the x-factor has never been about the singing ... it's always been about how many viewers Simon Cowell can pull in.
It was all four judges who put John and Edward through to the round where they go to the judges houses - if they really thought they were crap how did they get that far.
Simon Cowell put them through because he knew they would cause controversy. If they weren't in it what would we all be talking about?
The x-factor has always been about the judges. If it was about the contestants there would be more of them still around now, making money. Leona Lewis was a fluke they didn't expect.
It's a shame because the contestants are the pawns in their game ... once the show is finished I don't think Simon and co really care what happens to any of them. There should be a show called Judge Factor, see who can actually make a winner into a success!
John and Edward, love them or hate them, are two 17 year old lads who are being used. I actually felt really sorry for them last night. If Simon had sent them home x-factor would have lost half of it's viewers.
Ok ... rant over rolleyes
Mrs Secksy

Sorry I have to disgree with you here, there are still a lot of the previous x factor contestants still around, I think it unfair to say they are forgotten. A lot of them and I don’t mean winners get openings from the show, but maybe prefer it out of the spot light but still quiet a few have success on the back of the show. I know some are now performing in the west end in top shows. While others have gone on cut albums and have backed other artists in places like Wembley area, 02 ect, these chances I don’t think would have happened without appearing on the X factor.
How can you say just Leona has made it, how about Shane Ward, Ray Quin, Alexandra to name a few.
there are over 200 jedward related items on ebay :shock:
madness is all i can say!!!!!!!!
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Let's face it, the x-factor has never been about the singing ... it's always been about how many viewers Simon Cowell can pull in.
It was all four judges who put John and Edward through to the round where they go to the judges houses - if they really thought they were crap how did they get that far.
Simon Cowell put them through because he knew they would cause controversy. If they weren't in it what would we all be talking about?
The x-factor has always been about the judges. If it was about the contestants there would be more of them still around now, making money. Leona Lewis was a fluke they didn't expect.
It's a shame because the contestants are the pawns in their game ... once the show is finished I don't think Simon and co really care what happens to any of them. There should be a show called Judge Factor, see who can actually make a winner into a success!
John and Edward, love them or hate them, are two 17 year old lads who are being used. I actually felt really sorry for them last night. If Simon had sent them home x-factor would have lost half of it's viewers.
Ok ... rant over rolleyes
Mrs Secksy

Sorry I have to disgree with you here, there are still a lot of the previous x factor contestants still around, I think it unfair to say they are forgotten. A lot of them and I don’t mean winners get openings from the show, but maybe prefer it out of the spot light but still quiet a few have success on the back of the show. I know some are now performing in the west end in top shows. While others have gone on cut albums and have backed other artists in places like Wembley area, 02 ect, these chances I don’t think would have happened without appearing on the X factor.
How can you say just Leona has made it, how about Shane Ward, Ray Quin, Darksparrow to name a few.
Can someone tell me why I put Alexandra in my post and its come up with Dard sparrow? :shock: :shock:
Quote by Theladyisaminx
Sorry I have to disgree with you here, there are still a lot of the previous x factor contestants still around, I think it unfair to say they are forgotten. A lot of them and I don’t mean winners get openings from the show, but maybe prefer it out of the spot light but still quiet a few have success on the back of the show. I know some are now performing in the west end in top shows. While others have gone on cut albums and have backed other artists in places like Wembley area, 02 ect, these chances I don’t think would have happened without appearing on the X factor.
How can you say just Leona has made it, how about Shane Ward, Ray Quin, Darksparrow to name a few.

Okay, I agree that there are a few still around, and I think the ones that are, probably had the determination and drive to push themselves and I'm glad they've succeeded because I think they all deserve it, but I think that's a secondary aim of the show - to showcase talented singers. I think the primary aim for the x-factor is to provide an entertainment show that gets people talking, and is ultimately about making money for those producing it.
Who are Darksparrow by the way?
Mrs Secksy biggrin
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Sorry I have to disgree with you here, there are still a lot of the previous x factor contestants still around, I think it unfair to say they are forgotten. A lot of them and I don’t mean winners get openings from the show, but maybe prefer it out of the spot light but still quiet a few have success on the back of the show. I know some are now performing in the west end in top shows. While others have gone on cut albums and have backed other artists in places like Wembley area, 02 ect, these chances I don’t think would have happened without appearing on the X factor.
How can you say just Leona has made it, how about Shane Ward, Ray Quin, Darksparrow to name a few.

Okay, I agree that there are a few still around, and I think the ones that are, probably had the determination and drive to push themselves and I'm glad they've succeeded because I think they all deserve it, but I think that's a secondary aim of the show - to showcase talented singers. I think the primary aim for the x-factor is to provide an entertainment show that gets people talking, and is ultimately about making money for those producing it.
Who are Darksparrow by the way?
Mrs Secksy biggrin
Take a look at my new thread I have put, I never wrote that I put Alexand-ra but it keeps changing to Dark sparrow lol You try it hope I get an answer for that one I have to put in a - to make it work wink
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Bouncy you should get SKY....there is plenty to watch to stop ya moaning. wink

Aye good point kenty...Instead of 5 channels of shite you get hundreds of themlol :lol:
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Bouncy you should get SKY....there is plenty to watch to stop ya moaning. wink

Aye good point kenty...Instead of 5 channels of shite you get hundreds of themlol :lol:
True Woo but some of them are good repeats. :wink:
Minxy btw I put in Alexandra and came up with some sparrow thingy......strange.