Locked threads

4 Jan 2008

I understand why threads are locked at times, but there are lots of discussions that have been written about before, and then locked.
My arguement is that new members are joining all of the time, and this year alone there must have been over new members, if the figures on the home page are right. Whilst long standing members are aware of some of the conversations on the Forum, new members are not. A typical discussion is about the timewaster thing. There have been some threads where lots of comments have been made, but still been locked. If lots of comments are being made, is it not good sense to leave it open if people want to comment on it? Not an arguement, just a comment so please don't have a go at me. biggrin

4 Jan 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
I understand why threads are locked at times, but there are lots of discussions that have been written about before, and then locked.
My arguement is that new members are joining all of the time, and this year alone there must have been over new members, if the figures on the home page are right. Whilst long standing members are aware of some of the conversations on the Forum, new members are not. A typical discussion is about the timewaster thing. There have been some threads where lots of comments have been made, but still been locked. If lots of comments are being made, is it not good sense to leave it open if people want to comment on it? Not an arguement, just a comment so please don't have a go at me.

I won't argue with you Kent I think your right.:thumbup:

5 Jan 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
I understand why threads are locked at times, but there are lots of discussions that have been written about before, and then locked.
My arguement is that new members are joining all of the time, and this year alone there must have been over new members, if the figures on the home page are right. Whilst long standing members are aware of some of the conversations on the Forum, new members are not. A typical discussion is about the timewaster thing. There have been some threads where lots of comments have been made, but still been locked. If lots of comments are being made, is it not good sense to leave it open if people want to comment on it? Not an arguement, just a comment so please don't have a go at me.

I absolutely agree with you, Kent - my blood boiled when saw what had been done - "over moderation" on these grounds alone is not fair to new members and will discourage them from contributing to the Forum.
It can only be hoped that this thread is not locked also and there can be freedom of speech for others to put their views and that the Site Owner can see the strength of members feelings :!:
Plim :thumbup: :thumbup:

5 Jan 2008

If you have a problem with a thread being locked....why not try asking a mod or putting in a support ticket. After all they will be the ones with the most knowledge of the situation smile

5 Jan 2008

I can see where you are coming from, Kentswingers.
I feel that there would have been no harm in letting that thread stand, and people who wanted to could have posted in it, people to whom it was very old hat could have ignored it.
However!
The mods do a hard, time consuming, responsible job for zero pay.
Because of this, my philosophy is that if I disagree with something a mod has done, I usually accept it, and move on. I wouldn't have posted on this topic if you hadn't raised the subject.
I wouldn't do the job, and I'm just really grateful that others will.
Whatever decisions they take in that job, are fine by me.

5 Jan 2008

Quote by Cherrytree
I can see where you are coming from, Kentswingers.
I feel that there would have been no harm in letting that thread stand, and people who wanted to could have posted in it, people to whom it was very old hat could have ignored it.
However!
The mods do a hard, time consuming, responsible job for zero pay.
Because of this, my philosophy is that if I disagree with something a mod has done, I usually accept it, and move on. I wouldn't have posted on this topic if you hadn't raised the subject.
I wouldn't do the job, and I'm just really grateful that others will.
Whatever decisions they take in that job, are fine by me.

The fact that moderators are not paid, doesn't mean they should be above critism.
Plim rolleyes

5 Jan 2008

I didn't say they should be above criticism, Plim.
I said that the fact that they are not paid, means that I personally choose to not criticise them.

5 Jan 2008

Quote by Plimboy
I can see where you are coming from, Kentswingers.
I feel that there would have been no harm in letting that thread stand, and people who wanted to could have posted in it, people to whom it was very old hat could have ignored it.
However!
The mods do a hard, time consuming, responsible job for zero pay.
Because of this, my philosophy is that if I disagree with something a mod has done, I usually accept it, and move on. I wouldn't have posted on this topic if you hadn't raised the subject.
I wouldn't do the job, and I'm just really grateful that others will.
Whatever decisions they take in that job, are fine by me.

The fact that moderators are not paid, doesn't mean they should be above critism.
Plim rolleyes

Well send a complaint to admin and stop whinging dunno

5 Jan 2008

Quote by Plimboy
I can see where you are coming from, Kentswingers.
I feel that there would have been no harm in letting that thread stand, and people who wanted to could have posted in it, people to whom it was very old hat could have ignored it.
However!
The mods do a hard, time consuming, responsible job for zero pay.
Because of this, my philosophy is that if I disagree with something a mod has done, I usually accept it, and move on. I wouldn't have posted on this topic if you hadn't raised the subject.
I wouldn't do the job, and I'm just really grateful that others will.
Whatever decisions they take in that job, are fine by me.

The fact that moderators are not paid, doesn't mean they should be above critism.
Plim rolleyes

everyone is allowed freedom of speech here....and of course you are entitled to criticize the mods and admin if that is how you feel. If you have a complaint put in a support ticket or PM a mod.
they all do a lot of work for the site....most of which is unseen to us regulars, but they are often busy in the background while we are all playing smile

personally I think they do a good job. ok, sometimes a thread gets locked due to the fact it's been done before......but generally that's if it's been done in the last few days so no point in having the whole of the cafe full of timewaster threads etc etc etc
there are loads of threads in the forum right now that have been done before.......they've not been locked due to the fact it's been a while since they've been done.
certain topics come up everyday and start to 'clutter' up the forum so some get locked and some are allowed to run.
or that's how I've always thought it worked dunno

5 Jan 2008

Quote by Plimboy
I understand why threads are locked at times, but there are lots of discussions that have been written about before, and then locked.
My arguement is that new members are joining all of the time, and this year alone there must have been over new members, if the figures on the home page are right. Whilst long standing members are aware of some of the conversations on the Forum, new members are not. A typical discussion is about the timewaster thing. There have been some threads where lots of comments have been made, but still been locked. If lots of comments are being made, is it not good sense to leave it open if people want to comment on it? Not an arguement, just a comment so please don't have a go at me.

I absolutely agree with you, Kent - my blood boiled when saw what had been done - "over moderation" on these grounds alone is not fair to new members and will discourage them from contributing to the Forum.
It can only be hoped that this thread is not locked also and there can be freedom of speech for others to put their views and that the Site Owner can see the strength of members feelings :!:
Plim :thumbup: :thumbup:
It's not 'over moderation' - if threads such as that didn't get locked, the forum would be awash with crap.
Agree with Cherry about not criticisng the mods. because they do their job for free. As has been said, complain to the correct people if you don't like it. This thread probably will get locked, and rightly so - it's not about free speech, it's about complaining in the correct way to the correct people.

5 Jan 2008

Didn't think anyone was complaining, just expressing opinions.

5 Jan 2008

I think that there are very few uniquely new topics up for discussion. The ones that are usually entail some sort of current affairs issues. As for sex topics!! Well lets face it with nearly a million replies to forums a lot of the sex stuff has been covered i guess.
I'm not sure that the forum would get cluttered with stuff it would just drop off the page and dissappear. You only have to look to the unreplied to posts in the Lets meet up section.
Interesting post and opinions. Thanks kent.
When squirrels find their nuts in winter are they really excited and hide themselves away with them for ages. And! are lady squirrels surprised when they find theirs ??? biggrin

5 Jan 2008

Whenever a complaint comes in via the tickets about a thread being locked we always make a point of reading the thread and I'd have to say that we haven't come across one yet that needed to be unlocked.

5 Jan 2008

Quote by flower411

It's not 'over moderation' - if threads such as that didn't get locked, the forum would be awash with crap.

Yeah !!! It`s all "Quality" stuff without the locked threads !!!

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
lol

OK then, worse crap!

5 Jan 2008

Mods don't get paid, but they do get snogs and shags!!!!
:bounce:
lol

Any Mod who feels they don't, form a que this way please>>>>>>
cool

5 Jan 2008

I've always found that *locked threads* can cause a great deal of personal anguish, discomfort and embarassment.
The last time it happened to me was on a particularly late night... long journey hope on a slow bus... absolutley busting...
Off the bus and at a jog to where I thought a low wall and little shrubbery would aid a chap in need...
the relief of the situation already being anticipated...
and Lo!
you got it... the flies were jammed and the was simply no way to hold back at that point.
the shame.
lp

5 Jan 2008

Quote by Davinaukcd
Didn't think anyone was complaining, just expressing opinions.

This is exactly what I did not want to happen! I was expressing am opinion. Why is it that threads degenerate into slagging off matches? Also they then start to go off into another topic which is a mile away from the original one? Those are the threads that should be locked.
I cannot see any reason why this thread should be locked at the moment, as people old and new members want to be able to answer it with opinions. Which is exactly what a Forum should be about.
Why people start bringing Mod's and Op's into it just baffles me. We all know that they do a thankless task a lot of the time, for no rewards at all. Not a job that we would relish at all, but without them God knows what this site would be like after a month!!
Lets keep this thread on the subject that it was meant to be about, no arguements just logical opinions please. lol

5 Jan 2008

Quote by st3v3
Whenever a complaint comes in via the tickets about a thread being locked we always make a point of reading the thread and I'd have to say that we haven't come across one yet that needed to be unlocked.

So this comment totally blows out of the water, the arguement of putting in a support ticket. :shock:

5 Jan 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
Why people start bringing Mod's and Op's into it just baffles me. We all know that they do a thankless task a lot of the time, for no rewards at all. Not a job that we would relish at all, but without them God knows what this site would be like after a month!!

People bring mods into it because it's more than likely a mod who would have locked a thread.

Quote by kentswingers777
Whenever a complaint comes in via the tickets about a thread being locked we always make a point of reading the thread and I'd have to say that we haven't come across one yet that needed to be unlocked.

So this comment totally blows out of the water, the arguement of putting in a support ticket. :shock:
No, it doesn't - what St3v3 said, is that when a support ticket is submitted, the thread is looked at and a decision made as to whether or not it should be unlocked.

5 Jan 2008

I think there is a huge different between those subjects that don't come up very often, which i don't think for the most part locked... and those that come up 2-3 times a week, and we know the ones we are on about......
maybe it is just me, but if a topic is on the first couple of pages (which would take oooh.... a couple of minutes to check) then why post another one on the same thing?
yes people are always new to the forums and are always coming in..... what harm does it do the check...
god i sound like a mean "search function" scrooge now..... smile

5 Jan 2008

And that decision is made how? By a committee who review the content of the thread, consider all potential issues and agree that no-one could possibly have anything to add? Or by opinion?
I agree with the comments regarding new members who may not be aware of all the opinions expressed previously. A polite and friendly reply would help to enlighten them and sometimes we do see this, sadly not in every case where sometimes a reply borders on sarcasm.

5 Jan 2008

Quote by Freckledbird

Why people start bringing Mod's and Op's into it just baffles me. We all know that they do a thankless task a lot of the time, for no rewards at all. Not a job that we would relish at all, but without them God knows what this site would be like after a month!!

People bring mods into it because it's more than likely a mod who would have locked a thread.

Quote by kentswingers777
Whenever a complaint comes in via the tickets about a thread being locked we always make a point of reading the thread and I'd have to say that we haven't come across one yet that needed to be unlocked.

So this comment totally blows out of the water, the arguement of putting in a support ticket. :shock:
No, it doesn't - what St3v3 said, is that when a support ticket is submitted, the thread is looked at and a decision made as to whether or not it should be unlocked.
Oh yes it does! He clearly stated that NO thread had ever been unlocked! Read what he said properly.

5 Jan 2008

Quote by kentswingers777

Why people start bringing Mod's and Op's into it just baffles me. We all know that they do a thankless task a lot of the time, for no rewards at all. Not a job that we would relish at all, but without them God knows what this site would be like after a month!!

People bring mods into it because it's more than likely a mod who would have locked a thread.

Quote by kentswingers777
Whenever a complaint comes in via the tickets about a thread being locked we always make a point of reading the thread and I'd have to say that we haven't come across one yet that needed to be unlocked.

So this comment totally blows out of the water, the arguement of putting in a support ticket. :shock:
No, it doesn't - what St3v3 said, is that when a support ticket is submitted, the thread is looked at and a decision made as to whether or not it should be unlocked.
Oh yes it does! He clearly stated that NO thread had ever been unlocked! Read what he said properly.
I did read it properly.
Yes, he did say that no threads have been unlocked as a result of the submission of a support ticket - but he said that the threads were read first. Just because none has yet been unlocked, doesn't mean that none ever will.

5 Jan 2008

Quote by kentswingers777

Why people start bringing Mod's and Op's into it just baffles me. We all know that they do a thankless task a lot of the time, for no rewards at all. Not a job that we would relish at all, but without them God knows what this site would be like after a month!!

People bring mods into it because it's more than likely a mod who would have locked a thread.

Quote by kentswingers777
Whenever a complaint comes in via the tickets about a thread being locked we always make a point of reading the thread and I'd have to say that we haven't come across one yet that needed to be unlocked.

So this comment totally blows out of the water, the arguement of putting in a support ticket. :shock:
No, it doesn't - what St3v3 said, is that when a support ticket is submitted, the thread is looked at and a decision made as to whether or not it should be unlocked.
Oh yes it does! He clearly stated that NO thread had ever been unlocked! Read what he said properly.

Quote by st3v3
Whenever a complaint comes in via the tickets about a thread being locked we always make a point of reading the thread and I'd have to say that we haven't come across one yet that needed to be unlocked.

Thats what he said.....
A bit different to what you are insinuating...

5 Jan 2008

If a thread is locked and someone pm's a Mod about it, giving a good enough reason for it to be opened then it would be looked at. Im not saying it would, or wouldnt be reopended, but we would discuss it, and then give the person who sent the pm, a decision. Posts have been reopened in the past, and Im sure they will in the future.
It is a case of cant do right for doing wrong. If we leave threads open, people complain, if we lock them people complain, rolleyes

5 Jan 2008

Quote by Freckledbird

Why people start bringing Mod's and Op's into it just baffles me. We all know that they do a thankless task a lot of the time, for no rewards at all. Not a job that we would relish at all, but without them God knows what this site would be like after a month!!

People bring mods into it because it's more than likely a mod who would have locked a thread.

Quote by kentswingers777
Whenever a complaint comes in via the tickets about a thread being locked we always make a point of reading the thread and I'd have to say that we haven't come across one yet that needed to be unlocked.

So this comment totally blows out of the water, the arguement of putting in a support ticket. :shock:
No, it doesn't - what St3v3 said, is that when a support ticket is submitted, the thread is looked at and a decision made as to whether or not it should be unlocked.
Oh yes it does! He clearly stated that NO thread had ever been unlocked! Read what he said properly.
I did read it properly.
Yes, he did say that no threads have been unlocked as a result of the submission of a support ticket - but he said that the threads were read first. Just because none has yet been unlocked, doesn't mean that none ever will.
:shock: :shock:

5 Jan 2008

Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
If a thread is locked and someone pm's a Mod about it, giving a good enough reason for it to be opened then it would be looked at. Im not saying it would, or wouldnt be reopended, but we would discuss it, and then give the person who sent the pm, a decision. Posts have been reopened in the past, and Im sure they will in the future.
It is a case of cant do right for doing wrong. If we leave threads open, people complain, if we lock them people complain,

Well admin have said NO threads have ever been re-opened, but you are saying they have? Am interested to know which is an accurate statement.

5 Jan 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
If a thread is locked and someone pm's a Mod about it, giving a good enough reason for it to be opened then it would be looked at. Im not saying it would, or wouldnt be reopended, but we would discuss it, and then give the person who sent the pm, a decision. Posts have been reopened in the past, and Im sure they will in the future.
It is a case of cant do right for doing wrong. If we leave threads open, people complain, if we lock them people complain,

Well admin have said NO threads have ever been re-opened, but you are saying they have? Am interested to know which is an accurate statement.
No, admin said that complaints via ticketshaven't been unlocked:

Quote by st3v3
Whenever a complaint comes in via the tickets about a thread being locked we always make a point of reading the thread and I'd have to say that we haven't come across one yet that needed to be unlocked.

Read what he said properly.

5 Jan 2008

Kent, if you re-read the posts, Admin was talking about support tickets that they receive via the 'contact us' feature on the left of the screen. I am talking about pm's to mods, two very different things.

5 Jan 2008

and guess what happens to a thread when it looks like its just going around in circles and not really going anywhere!
damned if they don't...damned if they do.