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i'm just watching the politics show and am absolutly gobsmaked there was a piece on it about a christian home that is taking in teenagers that are being made homeless by their own family because they have no job and they won't let them stay without a job or a parent has been made redundant so they can't afford to keep the teen in the family home
now is it just me or does this seem attrocious
i could not for one second even consider throwing one of my boys out due to finances no matter how bad they were
my kids will always have a home here even if we do have to live on fresh air
I think that sometimes there is a case for it, if the teenager is horrible to live with, lazy, on drugs, abusive etc.
Just because you give birth to them doesn't mean they have to ruin your have to walk a mile in a mans shoes before you can judge him.
We all have a breaking point. When our kids are little we can never imagine a time when we would feel anger resentment or fear of them, sadly that doesn't always last for some families.
i just cannot imagine a situation where i would make my child homeless
i was a little cow, very argumentative, but no worse than our own 2 sons are yet i was made homeless as my step father found me difficult to live with at the age of 16
i still to this day resent the fact my mother chose her husband over me so maybe that is why i would NEVER make my boys homeless no matter what they did
also maybe i am just lucky that they are essentialy good lads they might infuriate me with thier opinions sometimes but luckily thats as bad as it gets so far
just make sure if they live at home they are making a considerable amount of effort towards saving for that home they are going to want one day..its a lot easier to pay towards a mortgage that you dont currently have than one you do have..especially if it starts when you are in your thirties and have finally left mum n dad to start your own family..
no interest you see.. just to make myself clear..ten years of paying that endowment is far easier .
sorry,kids not working,dossing about all day,wouldn`t happen in my house.i know people who let this happen and i think kids need to contribute something more than their dirty washing to the house, to teach them some responsibility and the basics of living in the real world.
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sorry,kids not working,dossing about all day,wouldn`t happen in my house.i know people who let this happen and i think kids need to contribute something more than their dirty washing to the house, to teach them some responsibility and the basics of living in the real world.

oh most definatly we make our lads help round the house and pull thier weight
we both work and have done since the boys were little so it has always had to be a full tean effort in our house
both boys can cook meals, work the washing machine, iron thier own clothes, work a hoover and generally clean house
the only job i insist on is they take it in turns to do the washing up and the rest they help with of thier own free will and do
the oldest pays board as i feel it is important to learn nothing comes free the youngest doesn't as he is still a student
maybe as things work rather well in our house is why i could not imagine making them homeless maybe because in my eyes they are still so young and vunerable in many ways yet at the age of my oldest i was married, had our first home and him on the way but if he was to tell me he was leaving home i would b worried sick
i know i know bloody cotton wool mum eh rolleyes
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i still to this day resent the fact my mother chose her husband over me so maybe that is why i would NEVER make my boys homeless no matter what they did

Can totally understand this, as I still hold some resentment towards my Dad, however, if a child is causing unhappiness and is unhappy then it is sometimes more logical to remove the source of unhappiness! If you were causing unhappiness to your mum then she is unlikely to choose you and forego her own happiness with your stepfather. Whether it be right or wrong from one person's point of view or not.
At 21 a 'child' is no longer a child. They are an adult and have no legal right to live in anyone's house. If they expect to be awaited on hand and foot, washing done, food provided then they might benefit from a kick up the backside and be shown the door.
Mine (21) is at home and no money coming in cos he is at college. He will be off (raises eyes in pleading to heaven) to Uni this year. He does his own washing, some minor housework, makes most of his own meals and gets himself to and from college on the tiny allowance the government gives him for the purpose. He is also fantastic company for the moment. The situation changes when he is no longer in education.
To kick a teen out simply cos of money seems very hard-faced. But an individual who is a lazy, layabout, smelly, abusive, smokes-drinks but contributes nothing to the housekeeping, well that could break even the staunchest parent's will.
Choosing a partner over a child, hmmmm. What can I say? Never been in that situation - but I can't see the family love in there.
I think probably every case needs to be taken on its own merits and shouldn't be looked at in general terms.
There are many families who find themselves in the position of having to put a child in care and not always for the oft presumed 'parental neglect' reason either.
An emotive topic for many I would say, and there but for the grace of God or whatever fate you believe in, go we.
Nola x
bouncy i wish you could live 24 hours in my house then im sure your opinion of "never making your child homeless no matter what they did" would change. this thread has hit a very raw nerve with me at the moment and for now im not gonna comment any further on it, i think some people need to look at a situation before they coment on a parent making a child homless. people that know me know exactly what iam going through and how the decision i took was heart breaking not only for me but my son!
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bouncy i wish you could live 24 hours in my house then im sure your opinion of "never making your child homeless no matter what they did" would change. this thread has hit a very raw nerve with me at the moment and for now im not gonna comment any further on it, i think some people need to look at a situation before they coment on a parent making a child homless. people that know me know exactly what iam going through and how the decision i took was heart breaking not only for me but my son!

:therethere: WBB you are not alone either - working with kids (I don't have any myself) I see it lots. Hope things work out xxx
I would never ever kick my child out for financial reasons, christ a mother carrying a pregnancy must know the next 16 years are going to be expensive!! I do have to say however, there are circumstances where I can understand a parent having to throw their child out but not financial ones.
I, like others have said, draw the line at teens taking the mick. My own teen is too dependant on us, I've told her she needs to finish her A Levels and look for a Uni course that is away from home. Sounds cruel but in this case (long story) it's a matter of cruel to be kind, she needs to be independent and she needs to be away from me if she's going to mature and learn how to look after herself.
Of course she'll still be home in the hols with her bags of washing I'm sure rolleyes
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bouncy i wish you could live 24 hours in my house then im sure your opinion of "never making your child homeless no matter what they did" would change. this thread has hit a very raw nerve with me at the moment and for now im not gonna comment any further on it, i think some people need to look at a situation before they coment on a parent making a child homless. people that know me know exactly what iam going through and how the decision i took was heart breaking not only for me but my son!

My comments were very general and from a position of a pretty stable and happy household. Forgive me for grating on your raw nerves - I absolutely agree that every situation is unique and every family break-down must be horrendously painful. :therethere: :therethere: :therethere:
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bouncy i wish you could live 24 hours in my house then im sure your opinion of "never making your child homeless no matter what they did" would change. this thread has hit a very raw nerve with me at the moment and for now im not gonna comment any further on it, i think some people need to look at a situation before they coment on a parent making a child homless. people that know me know exactly what iam going through and how the decision i took was heart breaking not only for me but my son!

:therethere:
We have had similar problems at home up untill recently and you would not believe the abuse and agression we have been met with by members of the family....
Sometimes a decision has to be made for the greater good of the family and not just the individual...
That raw nerve has been struck here as well kiss
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bouncy i wish you could live 24 hours in my house then im sure your opinion of "never making your child homeless no matter what they did" would change. this thread has hit a very raw nerve with me at the moment and for now im not gonna comment any further on it, i think some people need to look at a situation before they coment on a parent making a child homless. people that know me know exactly what iam going through and how the decision i took was heart breaking not only for me but my son!

:therethere:
We have had similar problems at home up untill recently and you would not believe the abuse and agression we have been met with by members of the family....
Sometimes a decision has to be made for the greater good of the family and not just the individual...
That raw nerve has been struck here as well kiss
kiss for both you Steve, and West-Brom x
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Of course she'll still be home in the hols with her bags of washing I'm sure rolleyes

I didnt know you took in washing :shock:
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steve i would believe the agression totally the final straw for me was wednesday when as i single parent following a divorce i was stood behind by my 14 yr old son with a feking 3 ft sameri sword, it was actually my parents who have been married 40 odd year told me no more it has to be sorted now no matter how painfull things are
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Of course she'll still be home in the hols with her bags of washing I'm sure rolleyes

I didnt know you took in washing :shock:
bolt
You do what you can these days. Personally I'm a dab-hand with the darning needle. biggrin
Sorry I could not ever turn one of mine out, I walk hell to high water to help them overcome a problem.
I believed when I had children they are for life not until they are teenagers. As my parents say the bigger the child the bigger the problems. We all live independant lives but always know we can rely on each other when things get tough.
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i still to this day resent the fact my mother chose her husband over me so maybe that is why i would NEVER make my boys homeless no matter what they did

Can totally understand this, as I still hold some resentment towards my Dad, however, if a child is causing unhappiness and is unhappy then it is sometimes more logical to remove the source of unhappiness! If you were causing unhappiness to your mum then she is unlikely to choose you and forego her own happiness with your stepfather. Whether it be right or wrong from one person's point of view or not.
see now i would forgo my own happiness for my kids i could never ever choose someone else over my boys no matter what i know i couldn't
plus there was an awfull lot more to it than i was a difficult teen i had had a very difficult childhood i don't mean me being difficult i mean i had things to cope with as a child that no child should have to cope with and then once i had been removed from that situation and finally should of felt safe i was cast aside for another guy that made me life miserable and at the time i was most definatly glad to be out of the situtaion and trust me i feircely deffended my mothers decision to put her happiness first for many years it was only a couple of years later when i myself became a mother that i then found it very hard to understand how she made that choice
i'm truelly not trying to judge anyone that does make the decision to remove a difficult child from the family home i am simply trying to understand how someone could make that choice as i just feel i never could
i count my blessings that i do not find myself in that situation
my boys are not angels don't get me wrong i have had my fair share of difficulties with them but i am incredibly lucky to still be in a stable relationship with their dad so have had support of being a 2 parent family which i am sure makes a huge difference i have no one single doubt that had i been a single parent i would of had many more problems with them and maybe my view would be different but thankfully i will never know
i do feel empathy for those having trouble with thier children and do try very hard to see it from their angle
WBB hunny i do hope things get better for you :therethere:
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Sorry I could not ever turn one of mine out, I walk hell to high water to help them overcome a problem.
I believed when I had children they are for life not until they are teenagers. As my parents say the bigger the child the bigger the problems. We all live independant lives but always know we can rely on each other when things get tough.

Even if one of your children had constantly physically hurt you or another family member? stole? ended up in court? lied? worse?
To be fair Minxy, whilst I understand what you're saying, would you not rather say you would 'attempt' to walk hell or high water to help them. NO person can 100% say what they would or would not do unless they've been in that position to make that decision.
We're just lucky we've not been put in that position, yet, that's why I worded my bit about finances only.
I can see a pint at which you have to say "No more" My parents got to that point when I was 16 and I can see why they did and though for the first 4 or 5 years I held a grudge I now 25 years later see how I was destroying their lives. OK so they had a child and they were responsible. What they weren't responsible for is the treatment that I meted out to them to get them to the point that for the sake of all that was sane I had to be made to leave.
I sincerely hope mine don't push me to that state but if they do then , with love. I'll ask them to leave I hold no bones about that. Life just aint that easy to put blanket statements out of I would or wouldn't.
To those with hellish kids that though you love until it hurts and have to make hard decisions that break your heart you have my empathy, sympathy and good wishes
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Sorry I could not ever turn one of mine out, I walk hell to high water to help them overcome a problem.
I believed when I had children they are for life not until they are teenagers. As my parents say the bigger the child the bigger the problems. We all live independant lives but always know we can rely on each other when things get tough.

Even if one of your children had constantly physically hurt you or another family member? stole? ended up in court? lied? worse?
To be fair Minxy, whilst I understand what you're saying, would you not rather say you would 'attempt' to walk hell or high water to help them. NO person can 100% say what they would or would not do unless they've been in that position to make that decision.
We're just lucky we've not been put in that position, yet, that's why I worded my bit about finances only.
Jaymar if a child ever felt the need to hurt a parent, I would have to ask myself why. I don't believe a child would ever want to hurt their mother, there is normally an underlying reason as to why. Unless we face that reason there will never be a solution.
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Sorry I could not ever turn one of mine out, I walk hell to high water to help them overcome a problem.
I believed when I had children they are for life not until they are teenagers. As my parents say the bigger the child the bigger the problems. We all live independant lives but always know we can rely on each other when things get tough.

Even if one of your children had constantly physically hurt you or another family member? stole? ended up in court? lied? worse?
To be fair Minxy, whilst I understand what you're saying, would you not rather say you would 'attempt' to walk hell or high water to help them. NO person can 100% say what they would or would not do unless they've been in that position to make that decision.
We're just lucky we've not been put in that position, yet, that's why I worded my bit about finances only.
Jaymar if a child ever felt the need to hurt a parent, I would have to ask myself why. I don't believe a child would ever want to hurt their mother, there is normally an underlying reason as to why. Unless we face that reason there will never be a solution.
Don't go there please. It could be any member of a family, you can't comment as you're lucky enough not to have gone through anything like that, nor have I, but believe me others have.
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Sorry I could not ever turn one of mine out, I walk hell to high water to help them overcome a problem.
I believed when I had children they are for life not until they are teenagers. As my parents say the bigger the child the bigger the problems. We all live independant lives but always know we can rely on each other when things get tough.

Even if one of your children had constantly physically hurt you or another family member? stole? ended up in court? lied? worse?
To be fair Minxy, whilst I understand what you're saying, would you not rather say you would 'attempt' to walk hell or high water to help them. NO person can 100% say what they would or would not do unless they've been in that position to make that decision.
We're just lucky we've not been put in that position, yet, that's why I worded my bit about finances only.
Jaymar if a child ever felt the need to hurt a parent, I would have to ask myself why. I don't believe a child would ever want to hurt their mother, there is normally an underlying reason as to why. Unless we face that reason there will never be a solution.
i do find myself agreeing with minxie as per, no child is just a nasty piece of work there are always underlying reasons and i do NOT blame the parents there can be many reasons why a child has become difficult to deal with they are just crying out for help in the only way they can think of
no child is born bad it is down to a set of circumstances and as parents it is our job to help them through lifes hard times
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Sorry I could not ever turn one of mine out, I walk hell to high water to help them overcome a problem.
I believed when I had children they are for life not until they are teenagers. As my parents say the bigger the child the bigger the problems. We all live independant lives but always know we can rely on each other when things get tough.

Even if one of your children had constantly physically hurt you or another family member? stole? ended up in court? lied? worse?
To be fair Minxy, whilst I understand what you're saying, would you not rather say you would 'attempt' to walk hell or high water to help them. NO person can 100% say what they would or would not do unless they've been in that position to make that decision.
We're just lucky we've not been put in that position, yet, that's why I worded my bit about finances only.
Jaymar if a child ever felt the need to hurt a parent, I would have to ask myself why. I don't believe a child would ever want to hurt their mother, there is normally an underlying reason as to why. Unless we face that reason there will never be a solution.
Don't go there please. It could be any member of a family, you can't comment as you're lucky enough not to have gone through anything like that, nor have I, but believe me others have.
i have gone through it as the child and i see it from the other side and there really are reasons why a child acts up hun trust me
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no child is born bad it is down to a set of circumstances and as parents it is our job to help them through lifes hard times

Some children will not respond to help...
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no child is born bad it is down to a set of circumstances and as parents it is our job to help them through lifes hard times

Some children will not respond to help...
i disagree all children will respond if the right type of help is found
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Sorry I could not ever turn one of mine out, I walk hell to high water to help them overcome a problem.
I believed when I had children they are for life not until they are teenagers. As my parents say the bigger the child the bigger the problems. We all live independant lives but always know we can rely on each other when things get tough.

Even if one of your children had constantly physically hurt you or another family member? stole? ended up in court? lied? worse?
To be fair Minxy, whilst I understand what you're saying, would you not rather say you would 'attempt' to walk hell or high water to help them. NO person can 100% say what they would or would not do unless they've been in that position to make that decision.
We're just lucky we've not been put in that position, yet, that's why I worded my bit about finances only.
Jaymar if a child ever felt the need to hurt a parent, I would have to ask myself why. I don't believe a child would ever want to hurt their mother, there is normally an underlying reason as to why. Unless we face that reason there will never be a solution.
Don't go there please. It could be any member of a family, you can't comment as you're lucky enough not to have gone through anything like that, nor have I, but believe me others have.
Jaymar I am in no way blaming the parents, how do you know I havent been there?
I have also seen my friends son be violent to her.
There are many reasons why children would do this, some reason are hard to pin point some have easy solutions, but I would never give up trying to find out and help them