It is my belief, based on observation, that folk who contribute infrequently to this forum are more likely to suffer personal criticism for expressing their views than the regular contributors.
I think this damages the forums and is instrumental in ensuring that forums continue to have a limited number of participants.
What do you think?
I will donate a pound to the humanist society if this thread reaches page two without it being suggested that If I don't like the forums I should bugger off.
I dont think new posters are treated any different here than any other forum I contribute to and I contribute (I didn't say usefully if you notice) to several.
i think maybe they do sometimes, i may have even done it to them myself a while back.
however i think its when they come in with a seen it hundred times before thread.
they will get the comments been done already,or posted a link where it was last discussed.
i however think that shouldnt happen, afer all it may well have been discussed while "you" were here but we get new members all the time, so either keep out if you cant be arsed to have that convo or give your opinion again and leave it to the newer members.
the threads that get my goat are the ones when people moan about "the site dont work i aint got the shag i paid for yet".
i dont think the persons opinion is valued less though casue they have only just joined or started posting in a running thread.
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I started to post on the forums but it wasn't the personal attacks that have put me off but the "staleness" of the threads / posts.
They focus around the same posters, fresh input is lost in between the repetitive bollox in many threads trying to point score and prove another person`s views are "wrong". An interesting topic with well thought out arguments then are allowed to go down the same track as all the others.
I prefer thought out posts that present argument and counter arguments without bringing personalities into it. Readers can then decide for themselves which posters are producing well thought out postings and those that are not.
Some people's posts may frustrate us and want us to repost to them but fear this is becoming the style of many postings. Much better we all attack the opinion rather than the person, unfortunatley the personal nature of postings prevents myself and indeed many from posting.
I can only respond on a personal note here.
I looked at the forums for about 2 weeks before I was brave enough to type on any post.
I had watched someone I knew from the chatrooms, have one of his posts pulled apart for expressing their own opinion about the forums!
I thought no way am I going in there now!
However I did, but I stayed away from what are now called fluffy threads, and stayed well clear of anything I considered as controversial, the latter for fear of expressing an opinion, and for other posters to then come down on me like a ton of bricks!
However, I now post on anything I wish to.
I have only ever been seriously challenged once, but I did not feel it was personal, I took slight offence at the time, stayed away from his posts, but moved on, they had!
It is free will if we wish to contribute to a post, and usually if you have followed the the post, you will know the way the flow is going, and will of read the style of the posters, and weighed them up a bit.
Most can handle stuff on here with out taking it personally I feel.
I was having a convo in private chat the other day, about this very subject, and they said they did not feel strong enough to cope on a heavy thread, but they now since have.
A new poster started posting the other day, she had been watching from above, and plucked up courage to contribute, there is no stopping her now. She did not get put off by what she had seen on here.
She may feel so drawn to express a view on here, as a newbie.
Do not know how to summerise this response really, apart from saying if any folk read this and are thinking of jumping in and posting, please do, it can be good fun,. and you learn things too, by the others thoughts and opinions.
Lucys post.
ffs spud that was thoughtful for you mate
Ben I have seen all sorts going on in these forums.
But the one thing that I just don’t understand is like what happened the other day the threads were ticking along new posters were contributing and there were about 36 threads 90% of which were all from different posters in today’s forums.
Then whoosh an influx of threads of by gone days that wiped over half of them off the pages.
So it seems all those people that contributed to help what I call was a thriving forum voices disappeared lots of input seem irrelevant,
I have looked back over the revived threads most got another response or two then just faded.
Where the ones knocked off were thriving, one day I looked recently and every thread on page one around lunch time had a response that day so people were coming forward.
Now look only half the threads on page one has responses.
Just something I have noticed that annoyed me a little as I don’t understand it.
I have revived the odd old thread but not 15-20 in one go.
Looked at others posting and liked what I have seen.
I know it’s nice to look over old times remise on people past I don’t have a problem with that either.
I am not bothered about myself here contrary to some beliefs I am thinking of a boarder audience that cant remise and not inclusive, I believe it make them feel left out hence why a lot might not want to post.
... It is my belief, based on observation, that folk who contribute infrequently to this forum are more likely to suffer personal criticism for expressing their views than the regular contributors.
From the replies to this thread alone it appears the in fighting and personal criticism, however veiled continues ... whether the poster is new or old!
Can people not post opinions rather than responding to others posts to prove they know best ?
I agree with Ben ... it stops people from posting, i know it shouldn't but it puts me off for example.
I do agree that sometimes this happens.
I think sometimes people's reactions to a post can depend as much on who has written it, as the content of the post itself.
Of course all this has slightly strayed from Benrums original post, but thats just the way it goes on here!
Devils advocate time......this could now be percieved as the masses picking on one......remember I typed Devils advocate!
A old poster, not a new one says her stuff, and plenty say the opposite.....is that picking on someone...... no, its called you having your say, and the others having theirs!
We all read other peoples posts in our own various ways, read stuff into them that is not there, or may well be, what I am trying to say in MY own uneducated way is all posters views are valid, if they are posting in here and feel picked on by others, they usually can handle it themselves, or in my limited experience on this forum, the post gets locked, and the person is then protected that way.
I have only seen that happen once though.
Lucys post.
I think the 'dominant' types who end up in a row with all and sundry; become caricatures of themselves. They tend to keep up the image and this causes them to respond to most threads in a characterstic way. Which more often than not causes people to avoid their line of debate; because they know where and how the converstaion is likely to go.
People will become personal, because in many cases their thoughts are important to them. When the intellect breaks down through confusion or stress then people will defend themselves passionately with the most basic emotions. At which point again it becomes open to ridicule or abuse, but also people will avoid them when in this state.
The problem with old hands and strong characters is that often a thread will be directed quickly down a line of discussion with little or no hope of it becoming more accessible to a wider audience.