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obese children, parents to blame ??
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I wrote a huge great post for in here but i was signed out and I didnt save it :evil: and I'm not bluddy doing it again :evil: :P 
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We have 3 children 2 of which are twin boys. One is blond and blue eyed the other is very dark haired and brown eyed one is shorter the other taller, one is studious the other is not so, We feed them on home prepared cooked food i would say 19 out of twenty days at the least, they do not always get their five a-day sometimes they get 6 or 7 sometimes 3-4. they both get fed the same time with mostly give or take the odd violent dislike of something. One is slender the other carries extra. Its the way of things.
I believe the only thing that can be done other than 'force' people into eating better which is what will happen in the end anyway, not that i'm a pessimist, just that i think the idea of individuality and self expression is being bred out of humanity slowly. Well not that slowly really. Start approaching the problems now sensibly through education and information and in a generation or two there maybe a big difference made. However to bully and coerce people into being slim fit and 'healthier' (if only in body not mind at times) is wrong. The idea of being human is to be able to use our individual freewill to decide some things. if you take all the decisions away from the individual then what happens? Moooooooooo................... we all become like herded cattle.
As for the bits on shopping at farm shops. I really don't know where people coming from!! In my local farm shops you pay massive amounts more for carrots with dirt on them or beef mince from a cow the size of a Shihtzu fed on Alpen. We have 4 farm sops within 8-9 miles of us the cheapest is as follows :-
Middle Rashers GREEN - Price: per Kg
Middle cut rashers bacon - Price: per Kg <<<< supermarket
1/4lb Beefburger with Onion - Price: each
1/4lb Beefburger With onion - Price each <<<<Supermarket
Minced Beef - Price: per Kg
Minced beef - Price: per Kg <<<<Supermarket
Whole Chicken - Price: per Kg
Whole Chicken - Price Per Kg <<<Supermarket
As for the fruit and veg! blimey that is far way in excess of 50% more in most cases a lot lot more in the others.
Also the fact that the supermarket is only 2 miles away so cheaper on Petrol. I dont get this farm shop idea. Nice if I could afford it I probably would use them. In fact I did for our Christmas joint (meat!) that was £36:00 the equivalent from a Supermarket would of been about £15:00 i guess, and though nicer it wasn't over twice as nice.
I do think it's a shame that everything is situated in the one-stop shops now and that smaller shops etc don't have a look in. If by using a supermarket it means people can afford a few weeks in the sun away from good old Blighty then lets be honest, farm shops etc, are really only niche markets.
I believe the only thing that can be done other than 'force' people into eating better which is what will happen in the end anyway, not that i'm a pessimist, just that i think the idea of individuality and self expression is being bred out of humanity slowly. Well not that slowly really. Start approaching the problems now sensibly through education and information and in a generation or two there maybe a big difference made. However to bully and coerce people into being slim fit and 'healthier' (if only in body not mind at times) is wrong. The idea of being human is to be able to use our individual freewill to decide some things. if you take all the decisions away from the individual then what happens? Moooooooooo................... we all become like herded cattle.
As for the bits on shopping at farm shops. I really don't know where people coming from!! In my local farm shops you pay massive amounts more for carrots with dirt on them or beef mince from a cow the size of a Shihtzu fed on Alpen. We have 4 farm sops within 8-9 miles of us the cheapest is as follows :-
Middle Rashers GREEN - Price: per Kg
Middle cut rashers bacon - Price: per Kg <<<< supermarket
1/4lb Beefburger with Onion - Price: each
1/4lb Beefburger With onion - Price each <<<<Supermarket
Minced Beef - Price: per Kg
Minced beef - Price: per Kg <<<<Supermarket
Whole Chicken - Price: per Kg
Whole Chicken - Price Per Kg <<<Supermarket
As for the fruit and veg! blimey that is far way in excess of 50% more in most cases a lot lot more in the others.
Also the fact that the supermarket is only 2 miles away so cheaper on Petrol. I dont get this farm shop idea. Nice if I could afford it I probably would use them. In fact I did for our Christmas joint (meat!) that was £36:00 the equivalent from a Supermarket would of been about £15:00 i guess, and though nicer it wasn't over twice as nice.
I do think it's a shame that everything is situated in the one-stop shops now and that smaller shops etc don't have a look in. If by using a supermarket it means people can afford a few weeks in the sun away from good old Blighty then lets be honest, farm shops etc, are really only niche markets.
Quote by helnheaven
Medical conditions, that go undiscovered for years are usually the root cause of it.
Im so happy someone, at last, has mentioned this. Although I dont agree with your statement entirely
Quote by kentswingers777
Sorry but I dont agree with that in the majority of cases. I watch tv programmes a lot about overweight kids and adults and the main reason is too much food and not enough exercise. In a few cases of course it can be medical but if people are honest it is all about how much food they do eat, not always what kind but the ammount.
But thats only in the tv programmes youwatch and you cant say in the majority of cases as that is too much of a sweeping statement, unless of course, you actually know the stats.
In this thread its assumed that someone is to blame. Why does it always have to come down to blame in discussions like this? Some cannot help obesity and it isnt always as simple as what goes in someone's mouth.
Of course I dont.
It is not just tv shows but the internet. So obese kids are obese because there is something other than they eat too much? So there is a medical condition attatched? Check the official stats on the internet and you will find we have a massive overweight problem in this country. Is it all medical or too much of the wrong type of food and no excersise, apart from the games consols?
Look in America. They are massive out there and its got nothing to do with the massive portions of junk food they get served everywhere? This is just one of hundreds of articals on the web alone.
" Britons are the fattest men and women of Europe, beating Slovakia and Greece by a small margin and with every likelihood that the next generation will hang on to the title, if current trends continue.
Being overweight or obese is now the norm in the UK, with figures released by the government yesterday showing that two-thirds of men and almost 60% of women are unhealthily heavy. We are also passing the problem to our children: if nothing changes, nearly a third of boys and girls aged under 11 will be overweight or obese by 2010.
The study also highlights a north-south divide within England. Life expectancy is one year shorter for woman and two years shorter for men in the north of England compared with the south.
The figures from the OECD, comparing the UK with 21 other European countries, emerged in a government document detailing the state of the nation's health, what has been achieved, and targets for the future.
Offsetting such success stories as the drop in cancer and heart disease deaths are the worrying upward trends in obesity and diabetes, mental ill-health and alcohol-related disease.
Caroline Flint, the public health minister, said that the UK led Europe in obesity for a combination of reasons, some of which were cultural and associated with shopping and family habits.
"It has built up over time," she said. "In the last 10 years or so, things seem to have got worse. It is partly what we eat but also what we do in terms of physical activity. It is complex. It is part of the way we live our lives and we have to think of 21st-century solutions."
