hi
anyone else feeling this price increase at the moment?...i was told there is a protest planned for saturday (that may turn out not to be true) from some of the forums i go on
hitting £50 per week now just to get into work! :shock: , how long will it be before we see per litre..?
chris
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price of fuel....
Sex God
The rumours are true
The price of fuel in scandalous....
£200 per month we spend on fuel in this household and it will only increase :-(
The price of fuel in scandalous....
£200 per month we spend on fuel in this household and it will only increase :-(
Sex God
I drive a diesel and need my boot space..
Sex God
Quote by one guy from kent
dont think a diesel can be converted?, no sparkplug?, LPG may not be suitable for compression combustion?
boot space isnt an issue for me as the car has two boots (mid engine car), the front boot is not used so wouldnt miss it really
No it isnt thats why I mentioned the fact ;-)
Sex God
LPG requires an ignition source to burn
Diesels dont provide that.
Its true you could fit an ignition system but you may as well find a suitable petrol vehicle instead..
As for exhaust gas temps....
I doubt there would be any significant difference as modern (by that I mean post 1993) run catalytic convertors and are suitable for LPG conversion so temps must be within tolerances.
Diesels dont provide that.
Its true you could fit an ignition system but you may as well find a suitable petrol vehicle instead..
As for exhaust gas temps....
I doubt there would be any significant difference as modern (by that I mean post 1993) run catalytic convertors and are suitable for LPG conversion so temps must be within tolerances.
Sex God
Quote by winchwench
Firstly-
Thanks for starting the thread- I had no idea about the planned protests, but we have an enormously important trip to make on saturday. If we'd had problems getting there it could have proven disastrous!
Secondly:
Convereting a diesel to LPG can be done but the cost and effort is usually prohibitive
Quote by winchwench
Ok, so I cheated a little- but I am just a girl
Most definately a woman would be my take on it ;-)
Sex God
Quote by winchwench
That, my dear Mallock- was most definitely a flirt!
wouldnt be easy to drill the head but i guess anything is possible eh, im sure some nutcase has done it
then again compression would be too high anyway eh
the EGT must be in line with a petrol mixture then...otherwise as you say it wouldnt be possible to use LPG on a cat equipped car
using it on a turbocharged car im not so sure about....it has a higher octane than petrol but has a lower calorific value, it would also lower intake temps due to phase change (unless this happens before the injection point/s) so it seems it gives with one hand and takes with the other...
then again compression would be too high anyway eh
the EGT must be in line with a petrol mixture then...otherwise as you say it wouldnt be possible to use LPG on a cat equipped car
using it on a turbocharged car im not so sure about....it has a higher octane than petrol but has a lower calorific value, it would also lower intake temps due to phase change (unless this happens before the injection point/s) so it seems it gives with one hand and takes with the other...
Sex God
Quote by one guy from kent
Thanks for starting the thread- I had no idea about the planned protests
Ok, so I cheated a little- but I am just a girl
no problem lol, your profile is buff BTW
Oi !!!
Get in the Que :lol2:
Sexpert
Just been speaking with a collegue about this after hearing it on the radio this morning....
If petrol costs £1 per litre at the pump, do you know how much goes to the government?
67p in every single litre lines the governments coffers....that is nothing short of fookin scandalous!
50p goes straight away in excise duty, then you have your 17.5% VAT, about 5p is profit for the fuel company and the rest is how much it costs to make it, transport it etc.
Sixty seven fookin pence
:x :x :x :x :x
If petrol costs £1 per litre at the pump, do you know how much goes to the government?
67p in every single litre lines the governments coffers....that is nothing short of fookin scandalous!
50p goes straight away in excise duty, then you have your 17.5% VAT, about 5p is profit for the fuel company and the rest is how much it costs to make it, transport it etc.
Sixty seven fookin pence
:x :x :x :x :x 
Sex God
Quote by Stormwalker
Chipshop oil is the future, or so I’ve been told.£45 used to fill my tank, £30 now gets it less that half full.
You can use it yes but.....
It takes quite a while to work up to using purely chip oil...
Its messy and time consuming to mix if you want to store it and its not very convenient...
By that I mean if your out and about now and you need fuel you simply find a fuel station and fill up...
Using chip oil isnt so easy unless you want to carry round a few bottles in the boot and I belivethere is still an issue with excise duty dependant on how much you use per year :dunno:
The goverment has got us by the bollox I'm afraid :-(
In Edit
It bloody stinks as well :lol2:
Master of Sex
not enough chip fat to run all the diesels that could be made to run on how long do you think it would take chippy owners to think they could become oil barrons and charge extortionate prices for the waste oil?
Quote by one guy from kent
hi
anyone else feeling this price increase at the moment?...i was told there is a protest planned for saturday (that may turn out not to be true) from some of the forums i go on
hitting £50 per week now just to get into work! :shock: , how long will it be before we see per litre..?
chris
It will continue to rise until the British public do something about it. Probably means fuel protests like last time. When that happened it was because the fuel got to 80p a litre, now it is over one pound a litre.
In the last 2o years the only time the Government has done a u turn is over the Poll Tax revolt, and the fuel protests. Then people power won the day. Even the " this lady is not for turning " turned when the people revolted over the poll tax. It needs people to be strong and say enough is enough, and do something! For every £7 spent through car tax or petrol tax, only £1 of that goes directly to the roads, which is dreadful. We are taxed enough to drive our cars, but they blame it on the cost of crude oil, but our tax on fuel is so high anyway.
My car has a Catalitic converter on it and 4 years ago my road tax was £10 less than than most other peoples road tax, but now my car is over £200 even though my emmissions are very low. A money grabbing government, but no point sitting moaning, the only way as the past has proved is to get people to get out there and do something. :shock:
Also as delivery firms pass on the cost of diesel to the consumer my shopping bills have risen nearly £20 per week, since this time last year so getting stung everyway you turn!
Quote by one guy from kent
hi
anyone else feeling this price increase at the moment?...i was told there is a protest planned for saturday (that may turn out not to be true) from some of the forums i go on
hitting £50 per week now just to get into work! :shock: , how long will it be before we see per litre..?
chris
It will continue to rise until the British public do something about it. Probably means fuel protests like last time. When that happened it was because the fuel got to 80p a litre, now it is over one pound a litre.
In the last 2o years the only time the Government has done a u turn is over the Poll Tax revolt, and the fuel protests. Then people power won the day. Even the " this lady is not for turning " turned when the people revolted over the poll tax. It needs people to be strong and say enough is enough, and do something! For every £7 spent through car tax or petrol tax, only £1 of that goes directly to the roads, which is dreadful. We are taxed enough to drive our cars, but they blame it on the cost of crude oil, but our tax on fuel is so high anyway.
My car has a Catalitic converter on it and 4 years ago my road tax was £10 less than than most other peoples road tax, but now my car is over £200 even though my emmissions are very low. A money grabbing government, but no point sitting moaning, the only way as the past has proved is to get people to get out there and do something. :shock:
Also as delivery firms pass on the cost of diesel to the consumer my shopping bills have risen nearly £20 per week, since this time last year so getting stung everyway you turn!
Quote by annejohn
not enough chip fat to run all the diesels that could be made to run on how long do you think it would take chippy owners to think they could become oil barrons and charge extortionate prices for the waste oil?
As I understand it almost any vegetable oil will run, chip shop oil was just used as a humorous example.
As others have said however, it’s not the product that’s the problem; it’s the taxes that are levied on it.
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Sex God
i dont drive and dek has a petrol card for work which he can use for personal use as long as its in the uk so we are not really effected but its still scandolous it does put me of learning to
Sex God
This might affect anyone with longhaul weekend plans. 
I'm surprised its taken so long to break the pound mark per litre on petrol across the garages. It's been threatening it for so long now. It's probably the main reason I've not updated my car because at the moment I get a pretty decent litre to the mile ratio.
Fuel protests sound ok in theory, but do they really make a difference?
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UPDATE: Transaction 2007 have announced a firm date for the protest - Saturday 15th December 2007 at 10:00am. They say the date was decided by members as "the best possible to enable those who would normally be working during the week to attend." According to a press release on the site, they plan to protest outside refineries or storage depots across the country.
I'm surprised its taken so long to break the pound mark per litre on petrol across the garages. It's been threatening it for so long now. It's probably the main reason I've not updated my car because at the moment I get a pretty decent litre to the mile ratio.
Fuel protests sound ok in theory, but do they really make a difference?
Sex God
Couple of points,
If the protesters are blockading fuel depots for one day that will have no effect on the availablility of fuel at garages, the delivery drivers will just work a bit of OT to make up for it and certainly the garages would have a few days stock anyway......unless everyone goes out and panic buys!!!
If you put any chip shop oil or vegatable oil in a recent design diesel engine, you'll wreck it.
Have you noticed the price of bottled water in the supermarkets? Some of that stuff sells for more than £1 per litre and you can get a very acceptable substitute straight from your tap....how mad is that?
Finally, price of diesel / petrol is nothing compared to printer ink. Can be up to £15 for about 30cc....can't be bothered to work it out, but must be several hundred pounds per litre, so I say stuff the fuel depots everyone picket PC world on Sat!! (Tounge in cheek there)
John
If the protesters are blockading fuel depots for one day that will have no effect on the availablility of fuel at garages, the delivery drivers will just work a bit of OT to make up for it and certainly the garages would have a few days stock anyway......unless everyone goes out and panic buys!!!
If you put any chip shop oil or vegatable oil in a recent design diesel engine, you'll wreck it.
Have you noticed the price of bottled water in the supermarkets? Some of that stuff sells for more than £1 per litre and you can get a very acceptable substitute straight from your tap....how mad is that?
Finally, price of diesel / petrol is nothing compared to printer ink. Can be up to £15 for about 30cc....can't be bothered to work it out, but must be several hundred pounds per litre, so I say stuff the fuel depots everyone picket PC world on Sat!! (Tounge in cheek there)
John
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Quote by X_fanny_x
i dont drive and dek has a petrol card for work which he can use for personal use as long as its in the uk so we are not really effected but its still scandolous it does put me of learning to
We used to love having our company van (yes it was white)
& the fuel card that went with it all those Tesco club points 
.The fuel problem is going to get no better & public transport is no good or just not there in some areas :cry: I work 25 miles from home & need the car as there is no bus in the early hrs of the morning .
As for protesting & blocking the fuel depots I dont know if this does any good :confused2: .
Quote by sword-stileto
i dont drive and dek has a petrol card for work which he can use for personal use as long as its in the uk so we are not really effected but its still scandolous it does put me of learning to
We used to love having our company van (yes it was white)
& the fuel card that went with it all those Tesco club points .The fuel problem is going to get no better & public transport is no good or just not there in some areas :cry: I work 25 miles from home & need the car as there is no bus in the early hrs of the morning .
As for protesting & blocking the fuel depots I dont know if this does any good :confused2: .
It worked very well when there was fuel protests last time. Whats the answer? Do nothing and wait for it to hit a litre?
Orgasminator
Quote by kentswingers777
i dont drive and dek has a petrol card for work which he can use for personal use as long as its in the uk so we are not really effected but its still scandolous it does put me of learning to
We used to love having our company van (yes it was white)
& the fuel card that went with it all those Tesco club points .The fuel problem is going to get no better & public transport is no good or just not there in some areas :cry: I work 25 miles from home & need the car as there is no bus in the early hrs of the morning .
As for protesting & blocking the fuel depots I dont know if this does any good :confused2: .
It worked very well when there was fuel protests last time. Whats the answer? Do nothing and wait for it to hit a litre?
Its a fine line to walk!! blockade for to long & the public support will wane due to them not getting fuel at all whatever the price .
