ooooohhhhhhh Jaymar, a subject close to my heart.......the thing is these days kids have far too many rights.
They know that they can do what ever the hell they like and theres not a person in the land that can touch them, and thats why theres no respect because they dont have to be mindful of anyone.
They can sue teachers, police and other authority figures, divorce parents for the silliest of things and every adults hands are tied....truly a case of the lunatics taking over the asylum.
Theres no repsect in schools and teachers of kids of any age often take their lives into their hands to do the job they do, and they cant do diddley squat to defend themselves, my mate was a teacher in a rough school and he had a nervous breakdown cos the kids made his life hell.
I have an 8 year old, newly diagnosed with behavioural difficulties....and he needs one to one attention in school, for everyone elses safety and sanity....the way to do that is to get him a statement of special educational needs...the thing is, its now not PC to label kids as needing a statement as its thought to stigmatise them....so he cant have a one to one TA. So now one teacher has to try and cope with him and his volatile behaviour as well as a class full of other kids, not good for him, her or the other kids.
We are strict parents and have always tried to instil a sense of respect and decency into our kids. recently the 8 year old as mentioned above, was excluded for school for 3 days for an incident.....hubby and I got him up on those 3 days, at normal time, got him dressed in his uniform and took him to a room in a childrens centre where hubby was working on some documents and made him do school work that the school had sent home for him, from till on those 3 days.
We were not going to let him think he had an extra 3 day holiday and let him watch telly, or to think it was an easy and cool option to be excluded......he went back in this week and the head teacher was amazed at the amount of work he had done, and told us that he had never seen any child do so much work during an exclusion before.
Some might think tht seems a bit harsh but me and Mr B are firm believers in the motto 'spare the rod, and spoil the child'
The doo gooders need to find something else to focus on and let the adults start being in control once again!!
**steps quietly down off soap box**
My sister is having the same problem with her 13 yr old daughter. I think my sister lets her get away with to much, but my sister just says "all the other kids do it", not an excuse in my book.
When I was younger my mum only had to say "wait till your father gets in" and I would shit myself.
I was at my mums having dinner afew weeks ago with my brothers and sisters and I said "fuck" by mistake, my mum whacked me round the head and said "no swearing in my house", my nieces and nephews found it highly amusing.
they just little shites between 13 and 16 and no matter what punishment you give them they will find away round it. Ours were like what your going through at the moment but we pleased to say they great now could not ask for better kids so there is light at the end of the tunnle. We thought they were going to grow up to be evil but they never do ..... all you can do is just hang in there and rember to take time for your self,s or you will go nuts.
shaz xxx
Must admit to being the strict parent here. Although mine haven;t hit teenagedom yet they are a couple of years away and both are independent so I'm expecting some problems.
However, at the moment they know the minute I raise my voice they move and do whatever it is they should be doing or stop what they shouldn't be.
Part of my regret though is that I grew up on the edge of the countryside, rolling fields, woods etc and we disappeared at 10 am to return at 5pm or when hungry! I now live in a sprawling housing estate, festering with drugs and other nasties and so, as much as I wish they can't just off and learn.
I often wonder if this is part of society's problem. Kids have to be protected now and part of growing up is lost. Instead they look for kicks elsewhere and it comes out as disobedience and lack of respect.
When my boys came home from school after being told thier "rights". My answer was, outside the front door you have all the "rights" to go to social services and get what you can. Inside the front door it is my house and you have absolutely no "rights" whatsoever. You only get the priveledges I allow. Anytime you want to leave you can go but only in the clothes you stand up in everything else stays in the house. Sounds harsh but that's the way life is and my 3 boys were always told "No, life isn't fair."
I always said that if life was fair I would be next in line for the throne but the only throne I'm in line for is waiting to use the bathroom....lol
I remember my secondary school maths teacher saying "no, life isn't fair - but no one said it would be".
When I was a teen if I so much as dared back chat my parents my head would have felt the force of his back hand. I'm not saying it's right but it was enough to make me respect him and his punishments. I was brought up to totally respect adults and even now heading towards 40 I wouldn't disrespect my mother, no way, but when did that end with our teens?
I was joking to my friends that suspension was like a holiday but inside I was shittin it because I knew I had done wrong and I knew I would be punished.
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thank you so much for taking the time to post this, I cannot see light at the end of it, but yes I have heard people say it gets better... I'm waiting.. and waiting....
had 3 boys and one girl (she aslo happened to be the youngest) and she let her stay off school for any reason, period pains, cos she didnt like a lesson, cos she didnt eat breakfast, cos she had a sniffle and so on....now my sis in law has kids of her own she does the same with hers....any excuse and she keeps em off school, cos its too cold for the walk to school, cos they didnt have much sleep in the night, cos one of them had the trots, and once she kept em off school for 2 WEEKS cos one of them had nits :shock:
my nan still tells my dad hes not to big for a kick up the backside!!
