Still not happy?

14 Oct 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
Oh yes another one of those threads.
I know we all like the nice strong debates.

Here we have yet another family who seem to have no problem dishing out the kids.
Now whislt it seems HE cannot work, what about HER trying to earn a few bob like the rest of us?
The cost of keeping this kind of family is crippling us as there now are just so many. Granted he has health issues, but it seems she has never worked and if she had her way, she never would.
Send HER out to work so the benefits we have to pay to her as taxpayers is reduced a bit. Why is it that when one partner is too ill to work, the other does not either?
It seems...lucky them, that they already have 3 grands worth of Xmas prezzies already wrapped up under the tree. I wonder how many WORKING parents out there, are worried about the expense of Christmas? Not for this family is seems.
When we have pensioners out there who this coming winter will have a choice of heat or food, because of the massive rises in energy bills. This family will not have the same all the money they are getting it seems they are still not happy. :shock:
The next time you see an eldery neighbour who has probably worked all their lives and never claimed anything ( in their day, they could not )thinking about their heating bills this winter, spare a nice thought for the freeloaders out there, who get it all.
Anyone for tennis? :lol:

So at the end of all of this - does the problem lie with the claimants of benefits (regardless of why they are claiming) or with the government for paying out so much.
Lets face it ppl can only claim what by LAW they are entitled too - unless they are putting in false claims at which point yes i agree they are the lowest of the low and therefore cannot i would have thought be included in this debate.
And i cant possibly comment about lyns arch enemy without knowing why or what she is claiming - lets face it she may actually amazingly enuf be entitled to the extra help

14 Oct 2008

The problem that I have are the ones where people screw the system.
The ones with the " dodgy " back for example. The people who have put nothing into the system, but take take take.
The freeloaders who use the system. The family like I have mentioned where they get everything. If that is not the case how the hell can they already have 3 grands worth of prezzies sorted in mid October? Why can she not work fgs? Is she an invalid? She has never done a days work...why the heck not?
The system is so easy to defraud and there lies the major problem.
Most get what the LAW says they are entitled too, and I do not know if that is too much or not. But surely I would have thought it would have been more beneficial to work, than not to?
Obviously from what has been said, it just does not pay for some people to work anymore, and for that I feel is a crazy situation to find ourselves in.
An example is job seekers allowance, to claim that you have to be ACTUALLY seeking work. So when a Mother was asked to attend an interview, she said she could not go as she had to pick the kids up from school. In that instance she obviously cannot activly seek work, not on a full time basis anyway. So they stopped her benefit.

14 Oct 2008

Quote by kentswingers777
Oh yes another one of those threads.
I know we all like the nice strong debates.

Here we have yet another family who seem to have no problem dishing out the kids.
Now whislt it seems HE cannot work, what about HER trying to earn a few bob like the rest of us?
The cost of keeping this kind of family is crippling us as there now are just so many. Granted he has health issues, but it seems she has never worked and if she had her way, she never would.
Send HER out to work so the benefits we have to pay to her as taxpayers is reduced a bit. Why is it that when one partner is too ill to work, the other does not either?
It seems...lucky them, that they already have 3 grands worth of Xmas prezzies already wrapped up under the tree. I wonder how many WORKING parents out there, are worried about the expense of Christmas? Not for this family is seems.
When we have pensioners out there who this coming winter will have a choice of heat or food, because of the massive rises in energy bills. This family will not have the same all the money they are getting it seems they are still not happy. :shock:
The next time you see an eldery neighbour who has probably worked all their lives and never claimed anything ( in their day, they could not )thinking about their heating bills this winter, spare a nice thought for the freeloaders out there, who get it all.
Anyone for tennis? :lol:

how you dare insult this family and say they havent put anything back to the society,kent777 does any pages of those papers you read tell you the ratio of pentioners to new borns?...yes they provide children so if the society will not provide sufficient education for them,then thats another problem in store
we have a very moronic system of benefit which encourages families to split so as to earn more on tax credit,although this system has helped single and low earining parents through hard times it has blinded the govt's eye not to provide education and skills to the under achievers....
a month ago i was talking to a 28yr girl who is single and has a 7 and 10 yr boys,she told me when she was working she struggled to pay bills or even provide healthy food for her boys but when she's on benefits she can even afford to take them to Temby during school holiday,well she hasnt got good level of education to earn over 30k...if education is not reinforced guess where we are heading....

14 Oct 2008

Unfortunately I have had to claim benefits as I split with my childrens father a year ago. I dont like having to be on benefits but at the present moment in time I dont have a choice, but I do get enough money from the government for me and my 2 children to live off.
My view is that the benefit system is there to put clothes on the kids back and feed them.

14 Oct 2008

Quote by Phuckers
Oh yes another one of those threads.
I know we all like the nice strong debates.

Here we have yet another family who seem to have no problem dishing out the kids.
Now whislt it seems HE cannot work, what about HER trying to earn a few bob like the rest of us?
The cost of keeping this kind of family is crippling us as there now are just so many. Granted he has health issues, but it seems she has never worked and if she had her way, she never would.
Send HER out to work so the benefits we have to pay to her as taxpayers is reduced a bit. Why is it that when one partner is too ill to work, the other does not either?
It seems...lucky them, that they already have 3 grands worth of Xmas prezzies already wrapped up under the tree. I wonder how many WORKING parents out there, are worried about the expense of Christmas? Not for this family is seems.
When we have pensioners out there who this coming winter will have a choice of heat or food, because of the massive rises in energy bills. This family will not have the same all the money they are getting it seems they are still not happy. :shock:
The next time you see an eldery neighbour who has probably worked all their lives and never claimed anything ( in their day, they could not )thinking about their heating bills this winter, spare a nice thought for the freeloaders out there, who get it all.
Anyone for tennis? :lol:

how you dare insult this family and say they havent put anything back to the society,kent777 does any pages of those papers you read tell you the ratio of pentioners to new borns?...yes they provide children so if the society will not provide sufficient education for them,then thats another problem in store
we have a very moronic system of benefit which encourages families to split so as to earn more on tax credit,although this system has helped single and low earining parents through hard times it has blinded the govt's eye not to provide education and skills to the under achievers....
a month ago i was talking to a 28yr girl who is single and has a 7 and 10 yr boys,she told me when she was working she struggled to pay bills or even provide healthy food for her boys but when she's on benefits she can even afford to take them to Temby during school holiday,well she hasnt got good level of education to earn over 30k...if education is not reinforced guess where we are heading....
Sorry phuckers but we both not on the same planet. :shock:
Whats education got to do with it? dunno

These people have more than I have and they do not work..well I bloody do as does mrs777. I cant bleeding afford 3 grands worth of presents for my kids, so how the hell can they?
I think you and me are on different planes. :lol:

15 Oct 2008

I love these kinds of threads. They help me to remember how wonderfully different human beings can be.
I think taking money off people who have lots of money and giving it to people who do not have lots of money is a wonderful idea. It doesn't really bother me whether the poorer people are deserving or whether the richer people are unhappy about it.
I simply want a world where every human being gets clean water, food, shelter, and basic health care. It breaks my heart that this is unlikely to happen in my lifetime my childrens' lifetimes or my grandchildrens' lifetimes.