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If they're gathering information, they'll have lots more now - site traffic must have increased tonight - what with some quieter members becoming vocal.
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Quote by Calista
Ok but the idea is your meeting that person for sex ... they aren't being totally honest but that doesn;t mean you don't think about and ask the question yourself.
You protect yourself by asking the question ...
People were tempted by the offer of £250 and never once questioned why the questions were being asked!
If Symbios have acted improperly then fair enough they need to be called to account but the risk of information being collated is no greater now than previously!
Cx
It's not the risk of the information being used that bothers me.
Like you said it's anonymous.
I just can't see why it can't be said upfront what the information is used for
Quote by HornyLittleBlonde
It's not the risk of the information being used that bothers me.
Like you said it's anonymous.
I just can't see why it can't be said upfront what the information is used for
In that I quite agree ... but at the end of the day you still have a responsibility to ask the question yourself!
What did you think the questionnaire was designed for if not to get statistical information? The questions were asked in such a way that is was pretty obvious (to me at least) that it wasn't about improving the site.
edit ..... if memory serves me right I think someone did ask and the question went unanswered .... possibly kiss??
Cx
We will never use any information you give us for anything other than for administration purposes, helping you to make the most of it.
We have recently collected results from over 8000 members in a British Sex Survey.
This information will be available within 2-4 weeks.
That contradicts itself, therefore what worries me is if people are willing to change the TOS to suit themselves then what else will be passed on?
Quote by essex34m
and surely the benefits to the owners must have been pretty decent, as £250 was offered, would the same amount of people who completed the survey have done so, if the prize was £100?
the owners wouldnt have offered money if there wasnt something in it for them?
TBH, I can't remember the questions, but at the time I assumed they were about the site, and therefore meant to improve the site for the customers - so I would have filled it in for nothing - afterall, there WOULD have been something in it for me, as in an improved site.
Quote by essex34m
and surely the benefits to the owners must have been pretty decent, as £250 was offered, would the same amount of people who completed the survey have done so, if the prize was £100?
the owners wouldnt have offered money if there wasnt something in it for them?
but people didn't think about that as potentially there was something in it for them ;)
I know I've been obstreperous here and I do very much agree that it appears Symbios have broken T&C, but people need to take responsibility for their own actions as well.
You cannot prevent information being collected on your habits, its the nature of the web, and when you open your lives on a forum you maybe do so inadvertently, but ultimately responsibility lies within.
At least one person questioned the survey, maybe more in pm or sat at the pc, but I bet that sweetner of £250 overode people's judgement
and yes I did fill the questionnaire in, and no I didn't question it but I wasn't naive enough to think that Symbios were interested in my information for anything other than business.Until Symbios answer the call who knows ....
I think this kind of targetting by marketing is all around us. We all get junk mail through the post. This has been generated by market research companies. I think nothing of it as I chuck it in the bin.
You can be categorised and marketed through your bank and card details. The details about your internet activities are always available to anyone with the ability or authority to investigate your web trawling. Its unavoidable unless you give up the modern world.
I think we all tend to fit into fairly recognisable and usually predictable categories to anyone who is doing that kind of work. So what! So do those people.
Also, I think your identity can be recognised in the way you write in the threads. You instinctively know that it has been composed by the writer and is not a cut and paste. This is also a recognition factor that you want people to interact with.
You can be categorised and marketed through your bank and card details. The details about your internet activities are always available to anyone with the ability or authority to investigate your web trawling. Its unavoidable unless you give up the modern world.
I think we all tend to fit into fairly recognisable and usually predictable categories to anyone who is doing that kind of work. So what! So do those people.
Also, I think your identity can be recognised in the way you write in the threads. You instinctively know that it has been composed by the writer and is not a cut and paste. This is also a recognition factor that you want people to interact with.
Quote by dambuster
Post and be damned
Ooooo Dammie! A couple of months ago I saw the Symbios site and took screen shots (in case the info suddenly changed
) and I was annoyed, but I didn't post the thread in the end because I thought I would be the only one to feel this way.I talked to another member about it and eventually came to the conclusion that I should just leave it alone, but now you've posted the thread I'm all annoyed again.
But I'm very glad you did post.
Quote by kazswallows
We will never use any information you give us for anything other than for administration purposes, helping you to make the most of it.
We have recently collected results from over 8000 members in a British Sex Survey.
This information will be available within 2-4 weeks.
That contradicts itself, therefore what worries me is if people are willing to change the TOS to suit themselves then what else will be passed on?
I've highlighted the bit in bold, as that's how I feel.
I don't want to sh*t-stir at all, I just want the ambiguous answers to stop as they breed suspicion. If 'you' don't know they answer to something just say!
Sex God
I know I probably shouldnt be suprised at what has possibly happened but I do feel very dissapointed 
Orgasminator
Thanks for your comments and the normal conspiricy theory stuff :shock: . Here are the facts relating to the survey information 
.
Firstly everything is confidential in terms of who ticked what etc :P .
1. The Magazine survey info was used to decide if we should launch a community magazine: .
2. It told us the type of information that people wanted covered along with what adverts that people wanted to see :idea: .
3. The aim here was to ensure that the content was specifically targeted toward our members to ensure it was on topic :!: .
The other survey was conducted for the following reasons.
1. We were trying to establish a few basic trends for our community these included age, Sex, etc. Before this point we had very little at all to help us understand the needs of this community as it grows.
2. The data collected has genuinely been used to raise awareness of certain topics for our members including Sexual Health as well as give us an insight as to how Swinging Clubs and sites like this help the scene.
3. This DATA has never been used externally or sold in any way shape or form.
In the right circumstances we would make some of these results public domain. But that would only ever be for the good of the community if we are being mis represented or victimised etc. I am struggling to think of any major reason to do this but again "THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN USED".
I hope that clears things up a little :?:
.Firstly everything is confidential in terms of who ticked what etc :P .
1. The Magazine survey info was used to decide if we should launch a community magazine
: .2. It told us the type of information that people wanted covered along with what adverts that people wanted to see :idea: .
3. The aim here was to ensure that the content was specifically targeted toward our members to ensure it was on topic :!: .
The other survey was conducted for the following reasons.
1. We were trying to establish a few basic trends for our community these included age, Sex, etc. Before this point we had very little at all to help us understand the needs of this community as it grows.
2. The data collected has genuinely been used to raise awareness of certain topics for our members including Sexual Health as well as give us an insight as to how Swinging Clubs and sites like this help the scene.
3. This DATA has never been used externally or sold in any way shape or form.
In the right circumstances we would make some of these results public domain. But that would only ever be for the good of the community if we are being mis represented or victimised etc. I am struggling to think of any major reason to do this but again "THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN USED".
I hope that clears things up a little :?:
Quote by Martin_M
The other survey was conducted for the following reasons.
1. We were trying to establish a few basic trends for our community these included age, Sex, etc. Before this point we had very little at all to help us understand the needs of this community as it grows.
2. The data collected has genuinely been used to raise awareness of certain topics for our members including Sexual Health as well as give us an insight as to how Swinging Clubs and sites like this help the scene.
3. This DATA has never been used externally or sold in any way shape or form.
In the right circumstances we would make some of these results public domain. But that would only ever be for the good of the community if we are being mis represented or victimised etc. I am struggling to think of any major reason to do this but again "THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN USED".
I hope that clears things up a little
Martin
Many thanks for coming in and posting
I know that was very much the message given when the survey was introduced, But I'm now more confused than ever :confused:
The data's never been used externally, but there is a link on the heaven network for people to get the data.
Has it never been used because you don't intend for it to be used externally or
has it never been used externally because it's not ready yet
We have recently collected results from over 8000 members in a British Sex Survey.
This information will be available within 2-4 weeks. If you would like to recieve the results of this survey, please register your details on the right.
Orgasminator
Thanks for that
What has happened is when we asked one of the guys to build that site, he has not been factually correct when he wrote the text. This happens at times as I dont get a chance to see everything that is written. That site was built around the same time as doing the first of the surveys so he probably just mis understood the instructions.
Its only a text change, I will put it on the list
What has happened is when we asked one of the guys to build that site, he has not been factually correct when he wrote the text. This happens at times as I dont get a chance to see everything that is written. That site was built around the same time as doing the first of the surveys so he probably just mis understood the instructions.
Its only a text change, I will put it on the list
Quote by Martin_M
Thanks for that
What has happened is when we asked one of the guys to build that site, he has not been factually correct when he wrote the text. This happens at times as I dont get a chance to see everything that is written. That site was built around the same time as doing the first of the surveys so he probably just mis understood the instructions.
Its only a text change, I will put it on the list
Thank you
Sex God
So - this is all sorted now then? And I don't need to start a word association thread?
Stop frightening me Sex God
I daren't - not that I really wanted to anyway!
Quote by Martin_M
Thanks for your comments and the normal conspiricy theory stuff :shock: . Here are the facts relating to the survey information
Firstly everything is confidential in terms of who ticked what etc :P .
1. The Magazine survey info was used to decide if we should launch a community magazine
2. It told us the type of information that people wanted covered along with what adverts that people wanted to see :idea: .
3. The aim here was to ensure that the content was specifically targeted toward our members to ensure it was on topic :!: .
The other survey was conducted for the following reasons.
1. We were trying to establish a few basic trends for our community these included age, Sex, etc. Before this point we had very little at all to help us understand the needs of this community as it grows.
2. The data collected has genuinely been used to raise awareness of certain topics for our members including Sexual Health as well as give us an insight as to how Swinging Clubs and sites like this help the scene.
3. This DATA has never been used externally or sold in any way shape or form.
In the right circumstances we would make some of these results public domain. But that would only ever be for the good of the community if we are being mis represented or victimised etc. I am struggling to think of any major reason to do this but again "THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN USED".
I hope that clears things up a little :?:
Thanks for that Martin.
I know that although this is a business I do understand that it's a learning curve for you folks too. I think that several issues had arisen at once which only muddied the waters.
I think I'll be sending somebody's wooden spoon back to them in the post!
:lol: :lol: Orgasminator
Thanks for all your help, if you ever spot anything like that just post or PM the details so we can get it sorted.Good news, a helpful bunny here has removed the page to avoid future confusion!!
Thnaks again
Much appreciated :D
I'd like to say thanks to Dambuster actually for highlighting this issue in the first place. Issue/ non-issue / whatever..it is very apparent to me that someone noticed that something wasnt quite right and stuck their neck out for the benefit of all of us.
Now, regardless of whether it was a 'factually incorrect human error with a text mistake', see how simple things are when people are just straight with one another? Questions get answered, reassurances given, and everything is ok again.
So, thankyou Dambuster, and Martin :thumbup:
Now, regardless of whether it was a 'factually incorrect human error with a text mistake', see how simple things are when people are just straight with one another? Questions get answered, reassurances given, and everything is ok again.
So, thankyou Dambuster, and Martin :thumbup:
