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Quote by Ben_Minx
I dont need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

As I suspected, nothing to back up your claims
Maybe your Weather Vanes out of kilter?
Quote by Ben_Minx
If you look at the posts on the thread it is pretty obvious.
I hate having to state the obvious but a fair few petrol stations in rural areas charge premium tourist rates which also distorts the facts behind the issue.

Not obvious or very scientific, more like guesswork and speculation on your part
Quote by Ben_Minx
140.9 petrol 147.9 diesel and we live in one of the target areas.
Just goes to illustrate that pressure groups like the Countryside Alliance like to twist the facts too.

E-petition Created by Mrs Sarah Newton MP, not Countryside Alliance :thumbup:
Do you have some evidence of this fact twisting?
Quote by Ben_Minx
Then you can rest assured as it simply isnt true.

Thank you, but I shall judge that for my self :thumbup:
Derv prices

Rural / Urbon
Babergh 144.9 / Birmingham 139.7
Breckland 142.9 / Bolton 139.7
Chichester 144.9 / Bradford 139.7
Cornwall 143.9 / Bury 139.7
Cotswold 144.9 / Dartford 139.7
Daventry 145.9 / Dudley 139.7
Derbyshire Dales 143.9 / Enfield 141.9
East Cambridgeshire 144.9 / Gateshead 139.9
Fenland 143.9 / Gravesham 139.7
Forest Heath 143.9 / Kirklees 140.7
Forest of Dean 143.9 / Knowsley 139.7
Harborough 142.9 / Leeds 139.9
Huntingdonshire 142.9 / Liverpool 139.9
Maldon 143.9 / Manchester 139.7
Mendip 143.9 / Newcastle upon Tyne 139.9
Mid Devon 142.9 / North Tyneside 139.7
North Dorset 142.9 / Oldham 139.7
North Norfolk 143.9 / Rochdale 139.7
Purbeck 146.9 / Salford 139.7
Ribble Valley 143.9 / Sandwell 139.7
Richmondshire 143.9 / Solihull 140.9
Rutland 143.9 / Spelthorne 141.5
Todays average prices
average / min / max
Diesel / / /
Quote by Ben_Minx
Thank you for the responses about 12 times tables.
Where is this evidence to support the assertion that literacy amongst 11 yr olds is worse now than, lets say, 20, 50 or 100 years ago. I ask because I don't believe it to be so.

I would hazard it is better than 100 years ago, and I for one would like to see that process of improvement continue.
Sarah Newton MP has set up an online petition calling on Government "to ask the Office of Fair Trading to look into the disparity between rural and urban fuel prices, to ensure that the regional fuel market is fair to rural consumers."
Mrs Newton has identified that "the price of petrol in rural parts of the UK can now be up to five pence more expensive per litre than petrol sold in urban areas. Such high prices are having a considerable impact on the finances of rural households, who are often dependent upon cars to access work, school and public services."
There may be some here able to help the OFT with the info they seek
The OFT has launched a call for evidence on remote communities. The purpose of this is to seek the views of residents in remote communities to improve the OFT's understanding of how remoteness affects both consumers and businesses.
The prices of many goods and services are frequently higher in remote communities and access to key services such as shops, banks and public transport can be limited. Fuel prices, in particular, are a common cause for concern given that distance affects costs of distribution. Online purchasing may expand opportunities for broader choice and quality, but we also recognise that delivery can be problematic or costly. In other circumstances variety of choice may be restricted or the quality of goods compromised.
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Our beautiful British
landscape has always
been, and will always
be, a national treasure
which should be loved,
enjoyed and protected for
everyone’s benefit
I marched for the countryside, opposed the
hunting ban and the Government I lead has
promised a free vote among all MPs on repeal
in this parliament.
I do a lot of gundog training. To train a good gundog one must start with the very basics. I see so many inpatient people, struggling as they have tried to take short cuts with there training and not got the basics 100% first.
I feel this applies equally to our lives.
Quote by Ben_Minx
I didint comment on the methods for teaching recitation did I?

Did say you did?
I asked a simple question
Quote by deancannock
its quite simple really....classes are to big. Over the years class sizes have increased and increased. All to save money ofcause. Teachers don't really have the time to help those falling behind now.
Put more money into education and reduce class size and see results improve !!

I agree, class sizes are to big.
In my experience, teachers never had time to help those who fell behind, they only wished to teach those who found it easy to learn.
There is to much time now spent on those who refuse to learn at the expense of every one else
Quote by Ben_Minx
I don't doubt your word.
I do doubt that the abilty to recite a song (for that is all a times table is) is a measure of literacy or numeracy.

What is your preferred method for learning times tables?
I think a shake up of schools and our education system is on its way Rob.
Michael Gove thinks universities are best-placed to decide what students should study and how they should be tested at A-levels
Quote by MidsCouple24
Just as I was saying about stocking up for all sorts of problems Mother Nature has struck again, not in a bad way but in the way I said of abnormal weather conditions, we have just enjoyed a week of brilliant sunshine and summer weather, now in April it is snowing in Stoke, ok more sleat than snow, and a feeble attempt but unusual nevertheless and a timely warning that you just never know for sure what Mother Nature will bring next, I recall at least 2 earthquakes in the UK in recent years, something which surprised many of the Islands inhabitants especially some in Birmingham who had houses severley damaged. Cheers for the back up Mother Nature your cheques in the post lol

Unusual, but not unheard of
We cull ruddy ducks to please the Spanish. Strange we're so hesitant about badgers
Read more:
LONDON (SHARECAST) - The UK financial services sector has continued to recover, a survey conducted by the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) and PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) has revealed.
The results have shown that business volumes in the sector grew for the eighth consecutive quarter, considerably higher than the average pace, during the first three months of 2012.
Optimism has also grown, up 32% in the past year, with an unexpected leap in the number of people being employed in the sector.
Ian McCafferty, CBI Chief Economic Adviser, said: “Financial services sales volumes and income continued to rise this quarter, putting the sector’s recovery on a firmer footing.
“Optimism levels and business investment intentions have also improved, in contrast to last quarter as some of the worst risks around the euro area crisis have eased.
“The unexpected rise in employment is a further encouraging sign for the sector. But with the current level of business regarded as below normal, conditions still remain challenging for financial firms.”
The survey consulted 95 firms, of which 44% reported a rise during the period, while 21% a fall, resulting in a balance of 23%. During the next three months, 34% of companies expect to see growth.
Banking in particular experienced a rise in optimism, while building societies were notably more optimistic than they were in the final quarter of 2011. Despite falling business volumes, finance houses also reported a rise in optimism levels.
Quote by Ben_Minx
Aye Bio-Diesel is fools gold.

It has been a long time coming, but I bloody new there must be some thing we would agree on lol
Quote by Max777
No idea why you quoted me Midscouple as I said absolutely nothing about building anywhere. My comment was about Gulson's non sensical claim that the population of Europe is contracting.

As an aside and by way of clarification ... the figure I found is from 2010 and is for a net growth of % (this includes those migrating to the E.U.) Given how small a number this is I'm sure that different readings of the statistics give negative and positive growth rates.
the figure you quote is included in the table provided in the following link.

The increase in 2010 is the lowest increase for the past 7 years but it is still an increase. Gulson claims the European population is contracting. It clearly is not. The growth may be slowing but it is still growth.
Have a look at the following for the projected EU27 population growth.

So, expansion, not contraction then :thumbup:
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Quote by Ben_Minx
I respect your view but disagree, a shortage of hydrocarbons is the least of our worries.

Like I said, Local government and councils, on a money making scheme, masquerading as environmentalists I reckon.
Here is a worry of mine, people being conned that Bio fuels are better for the environment.
The irony here is that the growing eagerness to slow climate change by using biofuels and planting millions of trees for carbon credits has resulted in new major causes of deforestation, say activists. And that is making climate change worse because deforestation puts far more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire world's fleet of cars, trucks, planes, trains and ships combined.
"Biofuels are rapidly becoming the main cause of deforestation in countries like Indonesia, Malaysia and Brazil," said Simone Lovera, managing coordinator of the Global Forest Coalition, an environmental NGO based in Asunción, Paraguay.
"We call it 'deforestation diesel'," Lovera told IPS.
Oil from African palm trees is considered to be one of the best and cheapest sources of biodiesel and energy companies are investing billions into acquiring or developing oil-palm plantations in developing countries. Vast tracts of forest in Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and many other countries have been cleared to grow oil palms.
Oil palm has become the world's number one fruit crop, well ahead of bananas.
Biodiesel offers many environmental benefits over diesel from petroleum, including reductions in air pollutants, but the enormous global thirst means millions more hectares could be converted into monocultures of oil palm.

Little Boy, Hiroshima
The bomb employed a fusing system that was designed to detonate the bomb at the most destructive altitude. Calculations showed that for the largest destructive effect, the bomb should explode at an altitude of 580 meters (1,900 feet).
Quote by GnV
i am sure we can all sleep in our beds a bit safer in the knowledge that george galloway is now an mp. rolleyes

I'm sure we could all sleep safely in our beds if we had more people like GG, Tony Benn and a few others who stood their ground and defied the party machine by voting against Bliar on the illegal invasion of Iraq for the purposes of regime change.
The enormous cost of the Iraq invasion and the tinkering with Afghanistan, Pakistan et-al in both monetary terms and in the loss of life is shameful.
Like Ben, I too was publicly opposed to the invasion of Iraq at the time but fully supported our troops being deployed to defend the Falklands.
I cannot lay claim to being a pacifist.
In the case of Afghanistan, I - like many others I suspect - have never really understood our involvement in this conflict despite the glut of weak excuses emanating from Westminster and other places over the years. I still subscribe to the view that it would have been better to pay-off the drug barons and take the poppy crop ourselves for far less cost in both human and cash terms.
The one floor with that argument of course was the risk to the huge amount of profits made by the drug companies peddling their clinical version - morphine and its derivatives - which costs the NHS (funded of course by taxation) very dear.
MP's like GG tell it like it is and idiots like Gorbals Mick (when Speaker) suppress 'free' speech in Parliament.
Tony Benn, yet another fantastic speaker of our time :thumbup:
Quote by MidsCouple24
Personally not bothered about the rights and wrongs of this situation for both sides, but I have checked the long term dry food stock in my cellar, topped up on my fresh water supplies and increased my stock of everything to get me through a period of "unavailabiliy" wink the consequences are more important to me than the politics of the situation right now.

hmmmmm let me guess mids.
you have 100 jerry cans worth of fuel in your garage " just in case ". rotflmao
dont you think you are over reacting just a wee bit loon rolleyes
no wonder our petrol stations run out, as the old British can be a bit paranoid at times. :doh:
not a strike in sight for fuel and we are behaving as though it is the end of the world, and obviously some peeple think the end of the world could possibly be nigh. where is the swoon emotion again?
errrrr why would I want fuel in the event of a Nuclear Strike in the middle east ? I am unlikely to drive anywhere as I said in the petrol thread, a full tank of diesel will last me around 3 months during normal times so I don't feel the need to stock up on that for a simple short fuel strike.
As a former soldier with masses of storage space in my home I do stock up on essential items at all times, this includes, dry foods (pasta, pulses, cereal, chocolate, peanuts (energy stuffs) long life milk, tinned goods, water purification tablets, medicines, cold weather clothing, portable gas stove and gas bottles, wind up lighting and radio, masses of fresh water, chemical toilet, salt, etc etc, I can take care of my family for around 6 months without going out. In this day and age of unexpected violent weather, strikes, war and the collapse of economies I just see this as "why not I have the space", I turn the stuff over by using the last bought first always replacing it with newer stock, some consider things like this as alarmist and extreme, I see it as a simple precaution against things being in short supply for any reason and as my obligation to my family.

We stock similar things, not necessarily for an emergency, but for other reasons,. but if the occasion arose.....
My children, for instance, can all make fire with friction or a fire piston, . We make our own 24 hour ration packs and vac seal them in indevidual bags. They contain lost of dehydrated foods and energy foods, breakfast dinner supper and snacks. This morning we left for the woods at 5am, we grabbed a ration pack each and off we go for the day. We have water and our Swedish Army Mess Kit, every thing else is in the 4X4. We have all this type of equipment as it suits our way of life, but would prove very useful in an emergency.
Quote by Ben_Minx

I think the point is, if my workplace owns land that has already been approved as parking, I don't actually drive through the city to get to work - living on the same side of the city - and I drive a 1 litre Yaris. Just how is a workplace parking levy justified?

There are lots of reasons why those responsible for managing our local environment might wish to use price to discourage car use. One that springs to mind is that car parks use a lot of land that could be used for more productive purposes. There are plenty of others.
Local government and councils, on a money making scheme, masquerading as environmentalists I reckon.
Quote by Ben_Minx
I believe we are witnessing the beginning of the end of our unhealthy obsession with private motor cars,

And motor cycles, lest we forget wink
Quote by GnV
You've got to hand it to this guy. He is an incredible operator.
I still remember with some humour when he was 'summonsed' to appear before a Senate Committee in the States in the aftermath of the Iraq debacle.
They were warned not to engage him but being fearless yanks they did - and lived to regret it! He wiped the floor with them and outclassed them at every turn.

What I thought really cool was a reporter half suggesting to him this morning (whilst he was wearing dark glasses in a 'morning after the night before' type scenario) that he must have had a 'good' night to which he replied in his usual calm, quiet and collected way that he is teetotal, as was his father and his father before him and "God willing" his children will be after him.
Mr Speaker is going to find it very difficult not to 'catch his eye'.
Can't wait.

:thumbup:
He is an interesting fellow wink
Quote by deancannock
Just incase you wonder what Gulson is on about

Sorry Blue....but a long way to go, to see any green shoots yet !!!

No need to be sorry dunno
I have to say though, not every one agrees.
Britain is back in recession, scream the headlines, it's the dreaded double-dip.
At least, according to the OECD, an international club of rich nations (including the UK).
The OECD is a well respected organisation and the estimates for economic growth it published today should be taken seriously.
But they may be premature.
Chancellor George Osborne takes a more sanguine view, pointing out that the independent Office for Budgetary Responsibility (OBR) is expecting 0.3 per cent growth in the first three months of this year.
In fact, I've been calling around a number of economists in the City and all of them think the OECD is too pessimistic.
The consensus (an average of City economists' own forecasts) is bang in line with the OBR.
So why the difference?
It may be because the OECD estimate was made before recent, more positive data emerged.
Today, for example the we learned the service sector (shops, banks, hotels and so on), which makes up about three quarters of the economy, grew 0.2 per cent in January, a modest start to the year but one which makes a contraction unlikely.

Still, as Ian Stewart, chief economist at Deloitte, says:
"the detail of what happens in the first quarter is less important than the path of growth over the whole year. With more public spending cuts to come and a financial system that's not working properly the recovery may be ... slow, erratic and bumpy."


I some times feel thats lots of people enjoy all the doom and gloom, I prefer to look on the bright side :thumbup:
Quote by MidsCouple24
Hands off whose land ? are the government planning to input compulsory purchase orders to build whatever it is they plan to build ? they do this a lot in the towns and cities so I just wondered if this is what this thread is about, or are they just planning to relax planning laws and utilise the land owned by ALL the taxpayers of the UK to make more room for our expanding population.
Has anyone living in the Countryside ever objected to the masses of building, compulsory purchase orders, land fill or anything else that happens in our urban areas, why if we need the land for other purposes should we not be allowed to use it, is there a law that says it is only for those in that area to dictate what is done with it, don't get me wrong I love the countryside and would love to keep it as it is, but needs as must and I am a realist, if we need it then we need it just as things are used in urban areas. Lately there are a few threads about those living in sparcely populated areas, well those living in urban areas have problems too, take fuel, it may cost more in rural areas but when it's in the tank you get to use it moving around not use it like urbanites do stuck in traffic jams for hours on end, slow crawling to and from work everyday, changing gear and stopping n starting every few minutes making consumption higher for like for like distance journeys. We have health hazards in pollution and germ transference abounding.
People in the countryside have the option to move to the urban areas, people in urban areas do not have the option to move to the countryside unless there are new planning laws as are being implemented now. Food for thought perhaps

Build away then until your heart is content, short sighted in my view though.
The population can not continue to expand for ever. I was born in the countryside but sadly unable to afford to live there now, had to move to a more urban area, but I would still not support short sighted planning laws just to get a house in the countrysideblue, the population in europe is not expanding, it's contracting.
Another one of your quite baseless claims Gulson?
See now I was born in the Lake District and love the countryside, the best place I have ever lived is the Alps of Switzerland where my lounge sat at a mere 5000feet, I didn't say I did not like the Countryside, I never said build on the best of it, but there is a lot of barren countryside around that would lend itself to being used, a lot of it owned by the Ministry of Defence, some of which could be spared, I am very much a realist, if we do indeed need it then we should.
Blindly believing we should build on it just because it's there is silly, allowing the rich who can afford to buy it to build on it because they can afford it is silly, but hanging on to every bit of it because "it's countryside is silly too".
I live in Stoke on Trent, we have some lovely parks within walking distance of my home, wild parks and kept parks, we have countryside just 10 mins drive away and we are on the edge of one of the great National Parks that we can visit within a 15 min drive.
We don't pay premium prices for "countryside" property nor do we pay premium prices for bieng one of the big cities, my home has 4 double bedrooms, a very large dining room and large kitchen, a nice lounge and two bathrooms, it also has 3 basement rooms, front and rear gardens, off road parking and a garage that will house 3 cars or be partioned into 4 more rooms, I can see the Wrekin in Wellington/Telford from my Kitchen Window (unaided) we are half an hour from Manchester, half an hour from the M1, 10mins fromthe M6, 3/4 of an hour from Birmingham, the current market price £120,000.
I sometimes wonder why people are willing to pay incredible prices for homes that basically offer less to the buyer but are "in the city or in the countryside".

Just a personal choice thing I would guess