Connection and friendship.
If you have total trust and a strong relationship to begin with, there is no threat.
Asha says it a turn off when I do a huge fart and then trap her under the duvert.
I don't know, some women have no sense of humour!
Theres been a few things for me,
Asha saying I love you, would be one of them, but another of many that stick in my mind was when i was in Liverpool in 1998.
I had taken a play there called 'Waiting For HILLSBOROUGH' before I did the play I had never even seen a football game on television, let alone been to watch a real match.
After the show one night, some guy came up to me with his girlfriend and asked if I was the writer/director. I told him I was thinking he was going to have a go, being the play was such a sensitive subject. He then shook my hand and told me how impressed he was with the show, and said 'It must have been difficult for you, to have written that, what pen were you in? I was in pen four' I then went onto explain to him that I was not actually at the match and had no connection to it. But he gave me a wink and a nudge and said 'I understand mate, I find it hard to talk about myself and this is your way of expressing that' and told him 'No really I wasn't there...' he patted me on the back and just said don't worry mate, you don't need to explain, congratulated me on doing a good job and went about on his merry way.
It was a weird compliment, but it made me feel very proud of what I had done. The play went onto win an award, which I had to collect in front of 3000 people.
Some people on the scene prefer to keep things as inpersonal and anoymous as possible, that's fine if that is for them, good luck to them.
Personally, we just like to be ourselves. We will talk to anyone, generally speaking, at a club as long as their polite. We just try and be ourselves and have a good time. We like the social side of the scene and making friends with people is something we like to do, not everyones bowl of goldfish, we know, but that's us.
So generally we don't really change anything (apart from what we wear, lol )
There is no doubt that these cases are strange, though I do not believe there is some weird cult, its almost like it seems to have become an unconciousness connection between all the particpants.
It also makes part of me very angry, having lost three friends very close to me in circumstances none of them could control, one to an Asthma Attack, one in a car crash and a third from a heart attack (at 22years of age)So many of these people had so much to live for and it doesn't sound like they were living especially hard lives, the two girls in fact were strikingly attractive, it seems such a pointless waste of something so precious. I know any of my three friends would have traded places with them in a second. Of course it is easy for one to say that when we cannot live the mind of someone else's shoes.
Anyway you look at it, its terribly tragic.
No idea what 'Normal' is (Certainly isn't us)
But the same things as most people - bad breath, bigheadedness, bad personal hygiene, bad manners and someone who tries to take liberties with unsafe penertrative sex.
If you feel you cant put face pics on your profile then at least say you will send them on request and add some lines dialogue prehaps? Alternatively a pic of the two you of you together with the faces blurred.
It doesn't have to be as long as ours, but you can information like places you would be prepared to travel to, if you are regulars at any clubs, if you can accomodate or not and that type of thing. All this kind of information is helpful.
All the time, comes with the job.
wtf?
Our post in here had a massive section deleted and it wasn't rude or anything, just a comment about a case in the USA, where the parents were inf avour of the death penalty for the people who murdered their son, but choose to give them life instead, so they would remember what they had done every day for the rest of their lives.
To give an actual practical response,
Our suggestion would be, if the vibe is that everyone seems to get on, which was the orginal propostion stated then start playing with your own partner.
By this we don't mean rip their clothes of and start shagging in front of the guests/hosts, just give them a long super kiss and stroke each other, that kind of thing, if the others follow suit then you will all be naked pretty soon after that and gradually things will take their course.
Innocent people have been hanged before.
People have been put away for life before. Imagine if for example Colin Stagg had his case goto trial, he would, in all probability have been found guilty, not based on the evidence at the time, of which there was little but due to the pressure the jury would have felt from the media frenzy that had been whipped up by very poor journalism at the time.
He could quite easily then have been hanged only to have found that he was in fact totally innocent later on.
This all said - I think these young bastards that take a life should have theirs taken away from them and they should automatically get a life sentance, and that should mean 'life' ie, never coming out. Afterall, death, is really too good for them, I would rather see them suffer and have plenty of time to think about what they have done.
Thats fab sweet, glad to see your not abandoning the scene though!
We comment on this thread (for now) beyond saying,
I am sorry, but it is everyones responsibility to be safe, it takes two people to have sex, wether couples or whatever. We always use condoms and if someone doesn't want to, well they won't be having sex with them.
But it is just as much for them to insist upon them themselves.
We all our responsible for our own choices. Everyone knows the risks by now.
We don't think it's slushy at all.
There should be more love in the world, we have more thsan enough plain to go round as it is, and we are always happy to talk about that, so why not love?
The people that normally moan about such posts are the ones that are missing something.
Both very happy for you, can't wait to hear what you do for Valentines day.
Swinging is the worst thing you can do if your relationship is in trouble.
If your relationship is strong and the trust is good, but prehaps the sex side is becoming a little stale, maybe that would work, although we never did it for that reason.
We did ours, no pictures, but 5 results came up, all us for either this or another forum.
No pictures though, so we aint bothered.
Lets organise one in the middle of an orgy room in swinging club, that would be funny.
there are two swing hotels in blackpool, do a search under the clubs section for more into.
One is somewhat better than the other.
Happy Birthday from us both Cherubs xxxx
trust me, with my stomach, it matters!
We weren't at the last one.
Alex's
Misunderstood
Asha
A Glint in my eye
The one from Poltergeist did, as did the ones in
Killer Clowns from Outer Space.
We will generally reply to anyone who sends us a decent message, even if its just to say no thanks.
We don't normally reply to winks and we never send them now (I sent a few in our fist week or so before Alex set me straight on that, but this was all new to me then so there you go...