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Lizaleanrob
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Female, 57
Straight Male, 60
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Quote by Max777
Retail travel companies, ie High Street travel agents can only dream of achieving 5% net profit and I'm sure there are other retailers that are in a similar position.
Have a look at this link re energy company profits, this suggests that the overall net profit ( ie wholesale + retail) is about 7%

We are going to have to get used to paying higher energy bills as long as we have to import the bulk of our energy. Increased demand from the likes of China, India, Brazil etc will only push costs in one direction.
In edit. I've just had a quick look at some retail giants figures
These are the pre tax profits based as a percentage:
M&S 5.6
John Lewis 2.3
Tesco 3. 0
Sainsbury 3.4
Morrisons 4.8
It would appear that a 5% net profit is eminently viable.

if that's the case the bastards are ripping us off lol
on a serious note we looked a financing a restaurant project recently with the banks we was talking to wanting to see a realistic 25% profit forecast in order to consider financing
also would those figures include off shore undeclared profits innocent
Quote by Katniss
Just want to big up Edenbridge Bonfire Society, they have made a massive effigy of that awful woman Katie Hopkins as their guy this year and will be burning it
Edenbridge bonfire Society I Applaud you

Edenbridge bonfire Society worship
Quote by Max777
Interesting to see what a small independent supplier thinks...and said to the MP's today. Wholesale gas price cheaper now than in 2009 !!!!!
" the businesses practices of the "Big Six" was called into question by small scale competitor Ovo Energy.
Managing director Stephen Fitzpatrick told MPs he "can't explain" the price rises being imposed because his company was buying gas at a cheaper price - 5p a therm less - than it had in 2009.
Loyal bill-payers are charged are a far higher rate, in some cases £200 more, and loaded with environmental costs than those who switch but the companies responsible go "unchallenged" by Ofgem, he said.
"It looks to me like a lot of energy companies, a significant number of the Big Six, are charging the maximum price they feel they can get away with to the customers that they feel will not switch under any circumstances and then maintaining the illusion of competitive pricing with tariffs targeted towards a very small number of relatively well-engaged customers," he told MPs.
"In the case of npower, which is the worst offender, historically and today the price differential is about 16%, which is about £200."
He accused British Gas of being the "most active" in terms of running a dedicated "win back team" whose sole job was to call up customers that were leaving to say 'now we can cut your bill'.
"When this kind of behaviour is allowed to go unchallenged, and an ex-monopoly advantage that the Big Six have, is allowed to go unchallenged by Ofgem, then you will never get effective competition.
"If you don't have effective competition in a retail market then you are always going to be trying to find out where the money has gone and time and time again you will hear very clever, very complex, very confusing answers and you will never get to the bottom of it.
"Effective competition is the only solution to lower bills."
Mr Fitzpatrick has previously suggested that the larger energy companies pay over the odds for energy when their retail arms buy from their own wholesale divisions - a claim the other energy bosses denied today. "

As TooHot stated above, methinks Stephen Fitzpatrick is being selective with his facts....he wouldn't be trying to talk his business up would he?
Have a look at the following chart of wholesale gas prices on this link

You will see that there was a massive spike in wholesale prices in 2008, which retail prices did not match. It's probably fair to say that Ovo we're paying more for Gas in 2009 based on the prices throughout 2008. Then again they may have better buying power now than they had back in 2009.
This link provides some very interesting information, comparing the energy and fuel costs within the EU countries.

As TooHot has said above, the UK has some of the lowest energy costs within the EU. I believe that the VAT on energy bills in the UK is also lower than most UK countries but even allowing for this, the UK's energy costs still compare favourably with most other EU countries.
The one thing that stands out for me is that diesel is cheaper than unleaded petrol in most of the other EU countries, which to me confirms that drivers of diesel vehicles in the UK are being ripped off.
to be honest Max
it doesn't matter how low we consider our fuel bills compared to Europe, Dean is right when he says fuel poverty is unacceptable especially for those that need it most.
it not becoming obvious much when the fuel rises are always based before the coldest weather sets in
hiding behind commercial profits is bollocks and you got to be thick as fuck if you believe gas and electric companies make just 5% profit from retail sales as 5% is not a viable profit in any retail business.
Quote by deancannock
not sure but if i got this correct the energy companies are in front of Parliament this week.
to justify how they sell wholesale utilities to them selves at huge profits then selling it on to us at just 5% profit with another company, making them look they are doing the Honourable thing whilst making the huge profits further up the supply chain :censored:

Oh and don't forget paying themselves massive bonus's for the privilege !!
The companies talk about the increase in wholesale gas prices......yea that is because the cost went down so much last year and oh surprise, surprise, no reduction in the costs were passed on !!!
It is wrong when in this day and age people have to choose between Food or Warmth !!
Its quite simple the maximum they should be able to raise prices is in line with inflation !!
meanwhile in the good ol USA their natural gas prices are almost the same as they was paying in the 70,s :eeek:
I'm afraid the party or the person has yet to be made that could sort out our social and financial problems
we are far from a developed or a civilised nation in comparison with our European neighbours
not sure but if i got this correct the energy companies are in front of Parliament this week.
to justify how they sell wholesale utilities to them selves at huge profits then selling it on to us at just 5% profit with another company, making them look they are doing the Honourable thing whilst making the huge profits further up the supply chain :censored:
Quote by Busty_n_Lusty
Not sure about making cake... could give it a go.... could buy one or two tho ;) xxx

to be honest busty you don't need to bring a cake
a bit of icing a couple of cherries and some well placed candles would make two very big cakes if the rumours are true. :rascal:
Quote by Max777
Sorry Rob but Capricornten didn't say what the quotation says he said....it was actually herts_darlings1. All Capricornten is guilty of is buggering up the quotation wink

my appologies to Capricornten for reading his buggered up quotation wrong and well spotted you max, i did think it was an odd thing to write then in another thread say he was piss head rotflmao:rotflmao:
Quote by capricornten
yes, i know i drink too much, but i spend many hours in a gym and my health is good. my helath check confirms this.
but....................
be honest, today we had two bottles of wine (one with the meal, the other a little later throughout the evening) a small (ish) baileys and a small (ish) islay malt whisky.
the doctor, who we know well, says that ok, due to our lifestyle, that's ok. but do we regret what we drink?
how may units a week folks, and be honest!

but you also wrote this
Quote by capricornten
Damn! I actually agree with one of the alleged godlike's. So much for my rebel qualifications.
Exactly, why shouldn't you smoke? it is legal and smokers are not second class citizens. Don't understand why people think smokers should not have the same access to the NHS as others, yes it's a life style choice but so is playing rugby or squash and we don't object to them being patched up.
A lot of people do want to give up though Mids, when they do it can be very difficult and Fobs, hardly a brand new cutting edge ad is it?
I go into a lot of elderly peoples homes with my job (not in a criminal way)and so many ask me if I mind if they smoke? It's there home and how can I say I mind?
PS, I don't drink and am well known for driving very slowly, I do like a pie though, perhaps I should not eat them in public places? perhaps I should be more aware of people inhaling second hand blackberry and apple.

so do you drink too much or not at all dunno
Quote by Lost
I would of thought it flattering to have the attention of younger swingers. Lets face it how difficult is it to flop a "No thanks" in to their box eh?
Add that to the fact it says fuck all about your preferences in your profile in fact it sats not a lot about anything

interest from younger swingers!!!
a no thanks is the last thing id be Flopping in a young vixen's box :rascal: :bounce::bounce:
Quote by Max777
in this day and age of computers and data bases, a matched name, dob and national insurance number should be as good as anything to confirm that we are eligible or not for treatment on the NHS. dunno

That's fine for UK citizens Rob but those from the EU and other countries having reciprocal agreements with the UK won't be on a UK database or have national insurance numbers.
you will not get treated in certain countries in the eu with out your e111 card,
there are even certain french hospitals that will not treat you if you are not carrying your card
so no European health card no treatment!! this is also void i would add if there is no passport to back this up
AFAIK the only treatment treaty we have is within the European union Max
in this day and age of computers and data bases, a matched name, dob and national insurance number should be as good as anything to confirm that we are eligible or not for treatment on the NHS. dunno
Quote by Wantonwench
If you enjoy the intimacy as well as the crazy fucking, let this be known straight up. I don't think this has anything to do with love or relationships, this has more to do about looking out for each other and making sure the people you play with also have a positive experience.

That's exactly how I wanted to say it but you've said it better - cheers
was concerned that it comes across as wanting "more" from the encounter than just sex - which I guess in a threesome I do - I want respect,care and consideration as well as the crazy fucking, sensual stroking, erotic licking etc etc - doesn't mean I want a relationship or to stroll off into the sunset with the couple though.
Thanks for that - really helpful
is that not the very least you should expect from a meet wink
Quote by HnS
Todays news
Supermarket giant Tesco has revealed it generated almost 30,000 tonnes of food waste in the first six months of 2013. Of that total, 21% was made up of fruit and vegetables and 41% of bakery items.
whilst reading
Our National Food Collections, in partnership with leading charities Fareshare and the Trussell Trust, help feed people in need in communities across the UK. In our first National Collection in December 2012, we collected and donated enough food for meals and we are now striving to make the scheme bigger and better, with further National Collections planned, as well as work to address surplus food in our supply chain.
Pretty sure that most Food Banks, emergency shelter meal providers, Salvation Army meals, etc. would love just a fraction of that wastage per day from Tesco

i do wonder how many people have worked out who pays for all the wasted food
innocent
we don't get a lot of buy on get one free in our local farm shop, but then we don't buy more than we need unless we get something like a sack of potatoes to which we just divide it with our immediate family.
i find supermarket veg bland and tasteless as i also do with their meat.
sorry but supermarkets are for those that can't make the time to shop properly and those that prefer convenience over taste and quality.
Quote by Bluefish2009
Best of luck Stagger :thumbup: and other stuff

Sounds like a lovely pub lol
welcome back blue its good to see you :thumbup:
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Earlier this year I was diagnosed with C.O.P.D. it will probably kill me ........ I would recommend stopping smoking

i'm personaly very sorry to hear this stagger and have missed your posts in the forums,
i hope something can be done to treat your condition.
Quote by capricornten
and yes, I know this has been covered before but as time goes on relentlessly, surely opinions change!
I know it's a habit, and an expensive one, but why do people continue? Fag-face is the way one late 30s girl is referred to that we know well (sucking on fags rather than something far more exciting), wrinkles galore, leather skin, looks nearer 60. 20 fags a day, ( ) is over £200 a month, £2500 a year after tax so nearer £4000 of income needed to have those 20 a day. Who in their right mind can afford that? That's new Mercedes area, or a bloody good holiday every year for free!
It's not glamorous anymore, so come on folks, why smoke? Honestly, and as a never smoker with never a fag in the mouth, why?

This is why you wont ever know the answer to your question rolleyes
we do have nosey children so we have ours in a hidden folder
open my computer
click to open c:
open windows file
right click create new folder we call ours PDF: pretty darn filthy
put all your pics it there
hidden to a point wink
Hth
Quote by GnV
I remember the days of starting smoking...
A packet of 5 Park Drive from the cigarette machine outside the local sweet shop in the high street close to where I lived aged about 14.
I also remember well, honking my guts up in the alleyway after taking too long a drag :uhoh:
Incredibly, this didn't deter me and I continued to smoke until about 30 years ago when I finally gave it up for good.
I remember just as well, the occasion of finally giving up and how I did it.
I'd recommend giving up to everyone. I'm not convinced the financial aspect is good enough incentive to be honest. When I discussed this with someone fairly recently, they said that the savings would be immediately diverted to eating to replace the smoking habit.
The REAL incentive is the health benefit :thumbup:

i had to google all these to see what they was G lol :lol:
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Never put something online that may cause you discomfort in later life.

dunno
Quote by Trevaunance
Or you forgot to hold the shift key down to get a ! maybe dunno

but the "a" is no where near the shift button :haha: bolt
Liza's b/day that week too so we will try to organise family stuff the week before so we can make this one wink
Quote by gorgeously-yours
we had a really good night guys
it was a well organised fun night and you can definitely put us down for the next one.
people from 3 different sites attended so there was no clique this added to making the night a great success and so much more sociable
big lesson to be learnt by other event organisers there
again well done guys great night
Liza n Rob xx

Hey guys glad you had a great time ..and I m sure this will grow and grow with more exposure Please let me know when next one is on
Just so you know that commercial events are easy to arrange through other sites but non fund raising socials are different my southend one was removed 3 times from elsewhere as admin didnt like fact it involved SH members and the SH eureaks social can only be promoted on sh as elsewhere have their own Eurekas sh organisers .. so many politics behind the scenes of these events you would nt believe !! lolxx
see you all soon xx
nothing wrong with your socials Gorge always social and very well organised wink
some of the larger ones do seem to have a clique which is often complained about by those that do not frequent the pool, which we have witnessed a couple of years back at one of the bigger socials Ooop north
what was refreshing about this one and little like your Essex one Gorge, was the whole thing was very social. its a shame that socials can't be cross networked in this manner and i don't see why a social can,t be listed as a social and not as (insert swinging site here )Kent/essex social
I'm not sure that this was a commercial event as hiring the wine bar would have been a small fortune,but i think rendezvous would be better placed to answer that.
its bizarre that still after all this time the owners managers etc still can't sort out the politics that surrounds Eurekas which can only be detrimental to the club in the long run :doh:
anyway we do plan to support you at Eurekas gorge so let us know when the next one is
Liza n Rob xx
we had a really good night guys
it was a well organised fun night and you can definitely put us down for the next one.
people from 3 different sites attended so there was no clique this added to making the night a great success and so much more sociable
big lesson to be learnt by other event organisers there
again well done guys great night
Liza n Rob xx
booked our tickets for tomatina in spain next year and very little left on my bucket (pronounced bouquet)list
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Today I am mostly relaxing and surfing the inter web and trying to orientate myself on this site so I can join in fully in this community and make some new friends.

:welcome:
and be careful of that nola :uhoh:
Quote by Rogue_Trader
My bed because it is always empty blink

awwww :-(
awwww!!............awwww!!
jeeze Rouge your only up the road at least offer to share yours with sandy rolleyes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanders off mumbling something about swinging being a dying art and a horse with a gifted mouth