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Quote by GnV
but other nations are just as bad and sometimes far worse in their regulation of standards especially in the likes of dairy product production.
Are you saying then that blitzing milk and cheese in an autoclave (pasteurising) is the healthy alternative?
The gut needs bacteria to function properly.
I'd agree with you though on the use of spices in basic Indian cuisine. Many forget (or didn't know in the first place) that highly spiced curry was designed to disguise rancid meat and to make it palatable.
Much of true Indian cuisine is in fact vegetarian. Good 'Indian' food is usually more subtlety spiced than highly spiced but even then there is a world of difference between being highly spiced and just loaded with chillies or chilli powder as in Vindaloos or Phals. Many other Asian cuisines use lots of spices in their cuisine. Thai and Vietnamese being two examples. The main reason for their use is their abundance in that part of the world. For anyone to suggest that our cuisine is in any way better than anyone else's is being a tad arrogant. Many nations are now multi cultural and therefore their cuisines have benefited and evolved due to the influence of diverse immigration. The UK is by no way unique in this.
Quote by GnV
but other nations are just as bad and sometimes far worse in their regulation of standards especially in the likes of dairy product production.
Are you saying then that blitzing milk and cheese in an autoclave (pasteurising) is the healthy alternative?
The gut needs bacteria to function properly.
I'd agree with you though on the use of spices in basic Indian cuisine. Many forget (or didn't know in the first place) that highly spiced curry was designed to disguise rancid meat and to make it palatable.
Much of true Indian cuisine is in fact vegetarian. Good 'Indian' food is usually more subtlety spiced than highly spiced but even then there is a world of difference between being highly spiced and just loaded with chillies or chilli powder as in Vindaloos or Phals. Many other Asian cuisines use lots of spices in their cuisine. Thai and Vietnamese being two examples. The main reason for their use is their abundance in that part of the world. For anyone to suggest that our cuisine is in any way better than anyone else's is being a tad arrogant. Many nations are now multi cultural and therefore their cuisines have benefited and evolved due to the influence of diverse immigration. The UK is by no way unique in this.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Love it that some of the Indian cuisine available in the UK has never been heard of in India or Pakistan.
That's probably because most of the so called 'Indian' food in this country is in fact Bangladeshi!
English food is my staple diet, Bacon n Egg buttie, breakfast for the gods, Pies (though imported with pastry from Italy centuries ago and not actually invented here, a good stew and my favourite ...... fridgeraider ie using up whatever is in the fridge in a form of Spanish omelette or stew or paella.
Intentional irony?
Quote by Anthony2012
Hey everyone just downloaded , it's an app for your phone, you take a picture put a time limit on it say 5 seconds then send it with a short message, once you've looked at it you can't see it again. Theres no phone numbers email address or any thing just a user name no one will ever know who you are unless you say. No one will know how to find you as it's just a user name like you use on here.
Bye for now
The recipient can take a screen shot of the picture, so they're not as transient as you may think! There are websites on which such pictures get posted, so be careful.
Quote by deancannock
well...I think tong Blair was a good leader. He transformed the labour party and won three elections. Do you remember the shambolic state of government under John Major...and the division caused Mrs Thatcher. Did we have anything like the Poll tax riots under Mr Blair's stewardship ?? he brought peace to Northern island. And to me his greatest achievement was the introduction of the minimum wage. Something millions of people have benefited from.
His biggest mistake was the invasion of Iraq. We and maybe even he was duped into believing there were weapons of mass destruction there. having said that is there anyone that really would have preferred Saddam Hussain to still be in power there ??
People, voted Mr Blair in three times......if they now turn round and say he was crap....then maybe they are the ones being hypocritical.
To me a good leader that lost his way towards the end.
Or maybe they are just using the benefit of hindsight!
Quote by Gerty35
so the co-op bank is o.k. and rbs is on the up. banks did'nt really close in cyprus for 3 weeks and they did'nt really steal depositors money/savings. must be down to goldman-sachs carney from canada, he's put the economy straight in 3 months and king was fibbing.
must be a disconnect of the british economy from the world economic crisis and other world economies and the eurozone (our largest market) are really on the up.
sounds like weapons of mass deception to me otherwise known as bullshit !
So tell me Gulson, how is the Co Op bank OK and how is RBS deemed to be on the up?
still not very good at this but not sure that was a serious comment.
As the shoots of recovery start to show you can bet the bankers will start talking everything up, markets react and some bugger makes a lot of money . . . at someone elses expense (usually us).
Read some of Gulson's posts then you may understand my question
The markets have been remarkably resilient for some time now.
Quote by gulsonroad30664
so the co-op bank is o.k. and rbs is on the up. banks did'nt really close in cyprus for 3 weeks and they did'nt really steal depositors money/savings. must be down to goldman-sachs carney from canada, he's put the economy straight in 3 months and king was fibbing.
must be a disconnect of the british economy from the world economic crisis and other world economies and the eurozone (our largest market) are really on the up.
sounds like weapons of mass deception to me otherwise known as bullshit !
So tell me Gulson, how is the Co Op bank OK and how is RBS deemed to be on the up?
They don't charge double for online applications, at least they didn't in my daughter's case. Maybe in Flower's case it's due to the initial application being incomplete and therefore has to be resubmitted?
If the person named in the application has a passport, the DVLA can obviously access some central database and use the photograph on the passport for the provisional licence. One is given this option during the online application process.
If the person named in the application has a passport, the DVLA can obviously access some central database and use the photograph on the passport for the provisional licence. One is given this option during the online application process.
Quote by MidsCouple24
If I told you that the moon was made of cheese - would you believe me?... I am guessing that you wouldn't because to believe that the moon was made of cheese would make me (the storyteller) and you ( the believer) look really, really silly. There is nothing worse than being made to look and feel really silly by believing nonsense that has been made up by even sillier people.
The problem with all this Nationalistic drum beating is that it stirs the dumbest of all human emotions - the fear of people who are............. Different to us. The people who bring disease and pestilence and look and speak different to us as well as eating different food to us.
Yes, but...............experience tells us.........Jeds probably right
Well he's not right about them being the poorest nation in the EU, nor is he right about their currency being worthless, nor about their inflation running so high to cause their currency to be worthless. I would also question the accuracy of his claim regarding the youth unemployment rate.
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Poorest EU state = Bulgaria (Based on the GDP)
Yes the Sun Newspaper gave me incorrect information on this, Croatia is the 2nd poorest Nation in the EU (based on the GDP)
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the GDP and the GDP (PPP) per capita for the European Union and for each of its 27 member states, sorted by GDP (PPP). This can be used as a rough gauge to the relative standards of living among member states, with Luxembourg the highest and Bulgaria the lowest. Eurostat, based in Luxembourg, is the Official Statistical Office of the European Communities releasing yearly GDP figures for the member states as well as the EU as a whole, which are regularly updated, supporting this way a measure of wealth and a base for the European Union's budgetary and economic policies. Figures are stated in euro.
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Bulgaria has a GDP of whereas Croatia has a GDP of , Luxemburg has the highest GDP at followed by Austria at , the UK has a GDP of similar to that of Germany, Holland, France, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark etc.
Inflation in Croatia
Inflation is current rising rapidly and in April 2013 is currently 5.9% compared with 2.9% in April 2012.
As bad as things are in the UK our inflation rate in May was 2.7%
The average Salary in Croatia is 974eu per month compared with 2303eu in the UK, putting that into perspective, it is better than Bulgaria, Romania and Latvia and a lot better than Albania at 294eu per month, but could that be a factor in why we are getting a large proportion of the criminals from Latvia, Romania and Albania ?
A loaf or bread or a pint of milk in Croatia will cost you 68p, not bad if your earning UK wages but expensive if your earning less than half of what you can earn in the UK.
After tax the average Croatian has around £568 of disposable income, in the UK the average person has around
The same source that you use for the unemployment rates states the inflation rate at May 2013 as being 1.8%, less than the Uk. Both Bulgaria and Romania are poorer than Croatia. Their currency has been pegged to the Euro for several years and is far from worthless.
It is likely that most EU members states will impose similar restrictions on workers from Croatia to those imposed on Romanian and Bulgarian workers before they joined the EU in 2007 where they have to wait up until 7 years before restrictions were removed.
Quote by Geordiecpl2001
If I told you that the moon was made of cheese - would you believe me?... I am guessing that you wouldn't because to believe that the moon was made of cheese would make me (the storyteller) and you ( the believer) look really, really silly. There is nothing worse than being made to look and feel really silly by believing nonsense that has been made up by even sillier people.
The problem with all this Nationalistic drum beating is that it stirs the dumbest of all human emotions - the fear of people who are............. Different to us. The people who bring disease and pestilence and look and speak different to us as well as eating different food to us.
Yes, but...............experience tells us.........Jeds probably right
Well he's not right about them being the poorest nation in the EU, nor is he right about their currency being worthless, nor about their inflation running so high to cause their currency to be worthless. I would also question the accuracy of his claim regarding the youth unemployment rate.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Yea I get that, it is essential, deserved and good that we honour those that have given their lives for us, but so much is missing from a site that is there to honour that, there is a memorial there that is "The Rail Industry Memorial", but where is the Coalminers memorial ? there is the "Shot at Dawn Memorial there, but where is the "Killed in training/test pilots/submariners/explorers/unarmed combatants (medics/stretcher bearers, nurses, doctors" memorial ? where is the memorial to those who died in the blitz, the innocents who died in the troubles in NI, The Police officer who have died doing their duty ? the firemen ?it all seems a bit badly thought out to me.
Yes honour ALL our armed forces but selection ? that's not right, a Paratrooper KIA deserves to be honoured but no more than any other soldier or marine. If he could he would not thank you for singling him out above anyone else.
There is a Police Memorial Trust dedicated to police officers that have lost their lives in the course of their duties. It was set up by Michael Winner after the death of WPC Yvonne Fletcher. I'm sure some of the others that you list will have their own memorials if you care to look for them.
A Police charity memorial trust is a financial thing not a dedicated memorial though and I like the idea of a special place for memorials to all those that deserve them but as I said I think the system as it is dilutes some of those deserving cases and perhaps some more co-ordination would be a better idea.
I did as you suggested and searched the net for a memorial for the Police but could only find financial trusts not a memorial. I found one in London for firefighters and proposals to build one for miners in Wales, so on reflection a National site to locate memorials is a good idea but I do believe that it needs a lot of thought to ensure that no deserving body of brave souls are left out and if your going to have military memorials located there then all conflicts need to be represented not just select ones.
This discussion though, has as I hoped it would be, been enlightening for me and changed my initial views. Thankyou to those who have so far contributed constructive thoughts.
You didn't look very hard.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Yea I get that, it is essential, deserved and good that we honour those that have given their lives for us, but so much is missing from a site that is there to honour that, there is a memorial there that is "The Rail Industry Memorial", but where is the Coalminers memorial ? there is the "Shot at Dawn Memorial there, but where is the "Killed in training/test pilots/submariners/explorers/unarmed combatants (medics/stretcher bearers, nurses, doctors" memorial ? where is the memorial to those who died in the blitz, the innocents who died in the troubles in NI, The Police officer who have died doing their duty ? the firemen ?it all seems a bit badly thought out to me.
Yes honour ALL our armed forces but selection ? that's not right, a Paratrooper KIA deserves to be honoured but no more than any other soldier or marine. If he could he would not thank you for singling him out above anyone else.
There is a Police Memorial Trust dedicated to police officers that have lost their lives in the course of their duties. It was set up by Michael Winner after the death of WPC Yvonne Fletcher. I'm sure some of the others that you list will have their own memorials if you care to look for them.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Yes a MAX reply for sure, no solutions, no answers to the questions, no "oh yes I never thought about what happens on 2 lane motorways or for traffic that is not permitted in the 3rd lane" just scorn.
You are the best at telling people what they shouldn't do but can never justify what you say with fact and never come up with an alternative idea that could work.
Says a lot more about you than it does about me Max
Keep going... One day you may even learn how to construct a coherent argument!
Quote by MidsCouple24
The Highway code is wrong the all knowing Max is right all hail the Max God.
So Max when is it right to let another road user know you are there by flashing your lights or by sounding your horn ?
You are so good at asking questions and demanding answers but not so good at answering them.
I asked you what proof you have that I flash my lights or sound my horn in an aggressive manner, please provide this proof and answer this question ?
It is very clear that those insecure drivers who support hogging middle lanes as star and max do are trying to divert the thread away from themselves and change what has been written.
The thread is about the law and the changes to it, the Police, law makers, highway code writers and other bodies believe that hogging the middle lane is wrong and now it is an offence that carries penalties and not before time.
One might even see hogging the middle lane and refusing to move into the nearside lane to allow other vehicles to pas is aggressive driving, something which causes many problems daily on the two lane M54 motorway from the M6 to Shrewsbury or on 3 and 4 lane motorways when the outside lanes are heavily conjested.
Flashing my lights or sounding my horn in the manner that I do is not an offence what you do is an offence, do not preach to me Max that supporting law breaking is correct and driving within the guidelines of the Highway Code is wrong, here endeth the lesson.
Please carry on ranting, all you're doing is proving beyond all doubt that you are a total idiot who is incapable of reading and comprehending anyone else's posts.
Quote by GnV
C'est simple.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
There is absolutely no reason to sound your horn or flash your lights when approaching another vehicle from behind in the manner described by Mids.
To do so is excessively aggressive and adds to the problem. It most certainly doesn't resolve it.
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Unfortunately there are idiots in our midst who are too stupid to realise this G.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Your a liar and an idiot MAX you have no evidence to show that I intimidate other drivers you do not understand the Highway Code which recommends the flashing of lights or sounding of a horn to alert other drivers to your presence, you deny the evidence even when you request it and are shown it, there really is no point continuing a conversation with you. Grow up and grow a set admit your wrong as I have done in the past but not when I am right as I am in this case.
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Prove to me with evidence that I intimidate other drivers by driving too close to them, sounding my horn in manner that is intimidating or doing the same by simply flashing my lights to alert them to my presence and that I would like them to move over in accordance with the Highway Code and now the law.
What part of "Never flash your headlights to try and intimidate other road users and never flash your headlights to give instructions" do you not understand?
I will leave it up to the other readers of this thread to make up their own minds as to who the idiot is and as for being a liar, there is only one poster that is now trying to backtrack on things that they said as they now realise that they make them out to be a complete and utter dick head.
Quote by MidsCouple24
i don't have a highway code here at the moment nor am I likely to in the near futures, however this is an extract from the website Your Headlights
According to the Highway Code the only valid use of flashing your headlights is to warn another road user of your presence.
Flashing your headlights is useful in situation where the horn wouldn't be heard such as when driving at speed on a busy motorway.
Never flash your headlights to try and intimidate other road users and never flash your headlights to give instructions. It is common for drivers to use the headlight flash as a signal to tell another road user that the way ahead is clear. However it is advisable that such signals are ignored. How can you be certain that the way ahead is clear or that this is what the flash was communicating? If you were to respond to flashing headlights this way or if you were to flash a driver to tell them that the way ahead is clear on your driving test would fail the test.
and this from the website
Flashing headlights highway code
The Highway Code states: 'Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there. Do not flash your headlights to convey any other message or intimidate other road users.'
The Highway Code is basically suggesting that a driver may flash their headlights to warn other drivers of their presence if in a hazardous position, or to warn another person that may not have noticed you.
Being at least an estimated 2 chevrons from the vehicle in front of you I do not see how the driver hogging the middle lane could be confused, but there again I suppose I should take into account the fact that the driver is an idiot in the first place
As I said in my previous post, you really ought to learn to read properly. Everything you have quoted above validates all that I have said about your driving.
You thought you could claim the moral high ground over another poster's driving and smugly described how you treat the " insecure drivers who are easily unnerved" ie you attempt to bully them with moronic, aggressive driving which is contrary to the Highway Code.
Of course we should take into account that the driver of your vehicle is clearly an idiot!
Quote by MidsCouple24
You have interpreted my words to read that I sit too close to the driver in front, that is presumptious and wrong on your part, there is no need to sit close to a vehicle to make your point (that you are there but it would be wise to be behind it, if I sat in the nearside lane and flashed my lights or sounded my horn the driver would probably be confused by the signal, you have interpreted my words to suit your needs, therefore the answer to your question is of no consequence since it does not apply to my conversation, but if you need educating on the matter, it does not say in the Highway Code that you should sit close to a vehicle when letting them know of your presence, you seem to have ignored my other posts where I have repeatedly said I do not tailgate. it is very easy to manipulate the written word but it isn't very clever, since I did not say I tailgate you cannot accuse me of it with any iota of proof. My words could have indicated that I sat close behind a vehicle or that I was a legal and safe distance from it, you have chosen to decide how far I am from a vehicle :sad:
I have made no interpretation at all about the distance you claim to sit behind the car in front and neither have I accused you of tailgating. You really ought to learn to read properly. I have also not misinterpreted your words to suit myself. In two separate posts you expressly claim that you sit behind them and flash your lights and sound your horn in order to make them move over. You also claim that the Highway Code states that this is acceptable. I'm still waiting for you to show me where.
If you are sitting so far behind the car in front and flashing your lights, the flashing could quite easily be misinterpreted by other drivers in both the inside and outside lanes, thinking that you were either letting them in or out of their lanes. Whichever way you look at it, it's still bad driving and it's obviously you that's in need of education.
Quote by MidsCouple24
So when approaching a vehicle hogging the middle land of a motorway the highway code accepts that flashing your lights and sounding your horn is a perfectly normal way of alerting them of your presence.
You have turned this into someone acting aggressively and in a state of anger, on what basis do you make this psychological assumption without being present at the incident and without knowing the mindset of the person involved or the circumstances of the incident ? or in other words, how superior do you think you are to everyone else ?
Show me where in the Highway Code that it states that it is acceptable driving to drive up behind a car flashing your lights and sounding your horn in order to make the other driver move over.
"so yes I sound my horn, flash my lights and let the idiot in the middle lane with no reason not to move to the nearside lane that I would like them to do so, some ignore you but not for long, they start to get embarrassed at the attention your bringing to them. after all they are insecure drivers so are easily unerved and you don't even have to get close to them" ....these are your very own words. I'd say that is the act of someone acting aggressively in a state of anger!
You should really be careful about calling other people morons when you yourself come out with such moronic drivel.
Show me where I have stated I close to a car when I want them to move out of the middle lane and into the empty nearside lane, I prefer to do this from a distance so that they make the manouver before I get close enough to have to reduce my speed, I really don't want to drop from 70 to 50 driving behind them someone else who decides the scenario for themselves, I am quite capable of sitting a safe distance behind the vehicle in front of me, as I have said in here I do not tailgate, I assume that is done because it is what you do and you think everyone else does the same.
There:
"I am a patient driver, unless on the motorway behind a middle lane hogger then I just sit behind them flashing my lights and sounding my horn until they move over"
Quite obvious as to what you meant. You're now trying to backtrack. Now you show me where that driving is deemed acceptable in the Highway Code. I've now asked that question three times without receiving a response.
Also, Star never claimed to be driving at 50 mph in the middle lane.
Quote by Too Hot
listening to PMQs is like listening to a bullshit contest and could be compared to watching paint dry :silly:
i cant really see the point
It is a modern day duelling of political adversaries where wit and speed of thought are the weapons of choice. Debating is fast becoming a lost skill in our dumbed down society but PMQ's gives us a taste of duelling at its best. If you could cut out the background jeers and cheers you can really appreciate the speec of thought and articulation that goes into responding and sparring with opposition MP's.
It's good stuff.
Totally agree, unfortunately I don't hear it often enough. I did hear a little today and it did sound as if Cameron was on the offensive. Apparently the Tories have been advised by their campaign strategist that both Balls and Miliband appear weak to some floating voters and are to be attacked for their responsibility for the country's economic problems.
Quote by MidsCouple24
So when approaching a vehicle hogging the middle land of a motorway the highway code accepts that flashing your lights and sounding your horn is a perfectly normal way of alerting them of your presence.
You have turned this into someone acting aggressively and in a state of anger, on what basis do you make this psychological assumption without being present at the incident and without knowing the mindset of the person involved or the circumstances of the incident ? or in other words, how superior do you think you are to everyone else ?
Show me where in the Highway Code that it states that it is acceptable driving to drive up behind a car flashing your lights and sounding your horn in order to make the other driver move over.
"so yes I sound my horn, flash my lights and let the idiot in the middle lane with no reason not to move to the nearside lane that I would like them to do so, some ignore you but not for long, they start to get embarrassed at the attention your bringing to them. after all they are insecure drivers so are easily unerved and you don't even have to get close to them" ....these are your very own words. I'd say that is the act of someone acting aggressively in a state of anger!
You should really be careful about calling other people morons when you yourself come out with such moronic drivel.
