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Quote by bluexxx
Damn! rolleyes I've checked my bank account, and all my savings, and I STILL don't have enough to buy this:
I only need 1.8 million and I could be the proud owner of a mansion in Wales... Imagine the parties I could have in that!!!!
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I'm not bothered about a lot of money, just five million pound will be enough!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
Quote by LadyFeeBee
He'd shag the hole in flipper's head
Apologies to dolphin lovers everywhere wink

All his brains are in his trousers!!! :beer: :shock: confused
Quote by Libra-Love
Her fanny was so loose it was like throwing a sausage down the High Street.

She has a cunt like a fucking horse collar!!! rolleyes redface lol
The only reason I decided to become a S.H. member was because I can be anonymous, I would be very embarrassed if I met someone who knows my family and I, although it is nothing to be ashamed of, I would rather not be recognised.
To be able to mix with likeminded people who are strangers is no problem at all and this site provides an excellent oportunity, these days, one can indulge in their own private fantasies and contact others with the same and meet via P. Ms. and keep everything private which suits me fine.
How many swingers on this site, are prejudiced against other's of a certain age? It seems to me there is an age barrier and if someone of a different age wishes to join in, they are ignored or not wanted, which amounts to the same thing.
Perhaps it is embarrassment, a generation gap, an attitude of. ( they are old enough to be my father or my Mother) did there ought to be sections? groups of similar ages, who participate together? all within the Swinging Heaven Club?
Just a thought that all Swingers should be ready to mix, even with other people who are above or below the ages of themselves. redface surprisedops: :oops:
Quote by HungryP
I've only ever been with white women, but would be happy to shag any woman regardless of colour. Having said that, if I'm looking at porn I always avoid oriental, black or asian women. In the "porn" context, I just don't find them attractive, although if it was a "hands on flesh" situation with black, whilte or any skin colour I'd be there... :P hump

YES !!! lol surprised smile
Quote by RedHot
:laughabove: :laughabove:
Sounds like some of the pm's I've had recently rolleyes
Tracy-Jayne

Just a joke Tracy Jane. O.K. ? OK. :silly: redface :P
Ancient Mariner, seeks blonde bimbo for daytime frolics, must be local to Peak District, your husband or male partner will be tolerated, as long as he keeps quiet. :happy: rolleyes lol
Visited "Eddlestowe Lot" today, ten parked cars, all empty, a 4 x45 kept coming and going, only stayed a couple of minuted each time, driving instructor with car having a rest, local farmer collecting dandelion leaves for his cows and his two dogs running around, new focus with one male driver sat for half an hour, police car came in for a few minutes, then left after giving me the once over having a picnic, time : 1045 Hrs. Sunday the 26th.
My first time and hoped I might see some dogging, but no luck, anyone been to this site ?and have they ever seen any action there ? drinkies
Single guy up for it, dogging, meeting, sex, anything but bi - sexual goes, but not anal, I am free 26/27/28/29 of the 9/ ' o4,
FREE - BUT NOT EASY - IF YOU WANT ME IT WILL COST YOU - NOT MONEY. lol :lol: :lol:
Quote by Cleethorpes
Hi everyone.
Just signed up today.
I'm new to this so any help would be appreciated. I'm a 44 year old male from North East Lincs looking for a bit of fun.

Hi Cleethorpes,
WELCOME, join the queue, I also, am a single male, (one of the unwanted majority) 44, my !!! Wish I was forty four again !!! redface surprisedops: :oops:
Quote by lucyweebaps
Here goes peeps an question for u all...
If sex were a food..Which food would u like it to be .. and why ??? :evil2:
Lucyxx

Cranberries, cream, natural unsweetened yoghourt, tinned peaches, plus an ovaltine drink, because they are some of my favourite foods and also, are cancer preventing health foods. smile :) :)
Quote by mellow
my partner says that my avator implies i like to be spanked.....it's not true, lol, i thought it was more like, "keep doing those TOUCH YOUR TOES EXERCISES or you'll never be ready for the munch!!!!!!"
what does your avator say about you??

My avatar says : I don't want to be recognised !!! by family :friends :neighbours : and people who know me, as anyone with access to a computer can visit this site. lol :lol: :lol:
Quote by Crazy_Jamez_2004
Hi i am sick of women and sometimes couples asking for a person with a well endowed cock. It drives me up the wall. Sometimes i think is it worth living anymore because of it.
Jim :cry:

Hi James,
I know how you feel, because I only have a medium size cock and when I see these adverts for a monster size dick, I also, feel inadequate and not wanted, apart from useless and surplus to requirements.
Some women really know how to hurt a man, hit him below the belt, if you will pardon the pun. redface surprisedops: :oops:
Quote by Steve_Lincs
We watched an absolutely fantastic film the other night,really thought film is The butterfly effect and i'd advise everyone to watch it.
Anyway it got me thinking :shock: ,the plot is about a lad who has blackouts,and its only when he's in adulthood that he starts to remember then finds out that he can go back to these blackouts and change the events that happened whilst he was blacked out.
Changing these events have repocussions on his future and blah blah blah (i won't say anymore and really spoil it for anyone who wants to watch it).
Now the question is,if you could go back to a particular point in your life and change the events would you and what sort of effect would it have on your present life (are you still with me dunno ) confused:
I know people have done threads on life changing events before,but this involves the repocussions it would have on the rest of your life.
There are a few things that i would have liked to change in my life,but the first one would result in me never meeting Clare,which would be second happened at the start of the year and was very upsetting for me,but if i was to change the events so that a certain something never happened then me and Clare would have possibly never got into the swinging scene,so thats another no no.

I would change the day I met my ex-wife, not that she was a bad person, but she turned out to be a manic depressive and a suicidal maniac, Continual suicide attempts, I felt sorry for her, I loved her dearly and looked after her for many years, but had to divorce her eventually as it made me very ill, I haven't seen her for many years, but my love for her will never die, sounds like a contradiction doesn't it ? but, it is true. :cry: :cry: :cry:
Mature Voyuer, wishes to watch a male and female couple dogging in the peak district anytime between the 24th and 29th of September ' 04, daytime or evening, please send a PM if interested.
Quote by Alexandra
I was just downstairs making myself a bit of breakfast and I was listening to Radio 2.
A song came on that took me right back to my youth.
It was Gordon Lightfoot with 'If you could read my mind'. I had to stay and listen to the very end. And I really mean listen, because this song, along with so many back then actually told a story and you could feel the emotions behind it. It was simple song (with no obcenities), no 'sampling', no electronics, just a vocalist (who could actually sing words you could here and understand) , a guitar (that was played melodically) and subtle backing.
It made me think that at my age I have been priviledged to be around when so many wonderful and innovating things first appeared as well as such varied music.
(btw I am not slating todays music but I do wish they would learn to write new songs instead of ruining other peoples by editing bits into their own)
Some of the things that I am thrilled to have witnessed are......
The 'Swinging Sixties' (nooooo - it wasn't that type of swinging). I was only young. But I can remember my parents taking me to Carnaby Street!!!! Wow it was unbelievable. I remember getting a purple crushed velvet jacket with gold embroidery from there.
The music - Elvis & the Jordanaires, Cliff & the Drifters (name had to be changed to the Shadows because of the American Drifters), the Stones, the Beatles, Hermans Hermits (Feeling Groovy etc), the Who, the Kinks, Fleetwood Mac, T Rex etc etc etc etc. I even remember Tommy Steele (Little White Bull) and Billy Fury (Halfway to Paradise).
The clothes.... mini skirts and hot pants. I remeber having a yellow satin mini dress which was so short it came with matching knickers! I used to wear that with white leather knee length boots. My other favourite outfit at the time was majenta suede hotpants and matching lace up waistcoat. I wore that to work occasionaly at my first job - Tax Officer in Altrincham Tax Office! Then came the time of the afgan coats. I had the cheaper version a cloth brocade one with wooley fur lining - I really loved it till one day I was in a pub and noticed the seats were covered in exactly the same brocade!!!! - I was gutted.
Then was the space race...
First orbit of the earth. I think this was Russian and had a dog called Leika on board.
First man in space - again Russion - Yuri Gregarin
First men on the moon - American Buzz Aldrin et al
Other technological advances.
The computer! These were only just starting to be used and what we have sitting on our desks now would then have taken up the whole floor of an office block!
My first job with computers was as a programmer on an ICL1904 - that was about the size of 2 sideboards and only had a 5mb fixed disk. The 80mb removable disk was about the size of a big hatbox.
For home enthustasts, then came Things like the Acorn Electron, Sinclair ZX80/81/spectrum.
Now PCs and networks are commonplace and where would we be without the internet
Cars.... I rember the first car we had at home was an old 'Sit up and beg' Ford Popular. That was in the days when you could have a car in any colour you liked, so long as it was black! It had 2 little square windows at the back, and the indicators were little plastic orange arrows which flicked out.
Well - I am supposed to be working so I should leave it at this.
These are just a small number of the things which I am proud to have been around for, in my (almost) half century on this planet.
Now this is really a thread only for the oldies on here.
What things can you remember and thought that you were 'glad to be alive when that happened'

I remember barrel bottom suits for men, mods and rockers, skinheads, long haired louts, mini skirts, the new look, and all the things that you mention, although I am much older than you Alexandria, yes, they are all wonderfull memories, thank you for that. 69position lol biggrin
Quote by jomu
shalt wear thine rubbers. Thou shalt adorn thine male organs with the finest sheaths of latex for the prevention of sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancy.
shalt not fornicate before innocents. Keep thine revelries from the eyes of children and unsuspecting passersby, and refrain from disturbing the peace and attracting attention.
shalt not block thine neighbor's view. Take care thou dost not obscure the sight of thy fellow dogger, and yield the right of way to them who arrived before you.
shalt look with thine eyes, not with thine hands, until invited. Layest not thine hands upon a person without their explicit verbal permission.
the sanctity of a woman's right to refuse. What part of "No" dost thou not understand, thou pushy bastard?
thy neighbor's anonymity. Thou shalt not expose, blackmail, or otherwise compromise the privacy of thine fellow doggers.
shalt not destroy public property nor trespass upon private property. The country parks, beauty spots, lovers' lanes and car parks of the land shall not be desecrated through vandalism or carelessness.
shalt covet thy neighbour's wife. Thou shalt swing and make merry with thine own mate and all other consenting parties.
shalt clean up after thine own self. Before thou departest, gather unto thee all of thine used condoms, torn wrappers, discarded tissues and other rubbish, and dispose of them in a bin.
shalt drive safely and honor the laws, both while motoring and parking. Thou shalt not engage in reckless behaviour while in a moving vehicle, and thou shall park legally and engage the parking brake when at rest.
Carefully removed from a 0906 site...without paying.

"BLASPHEMY"
Quote by stevio
Agreed its a shame that the country side life is decided by city people who dont understand the way of life

I love the countryside and go there whenever I can, I love to see the horsed with their red coat riders galloping across the fields, also, the hounds and the sound of the trumpet as they take part in the chase.
What is abhorrent to me, is the sight of a fox being torn to peices alive, who? with an ounce of compassion in their soul would wish to bring such suffering to any life, only a fox! you say ! yes ! and that animal feels the pain just as much as we do.
Why don't those who practise this barbarity, take the place of the fox and see if they still think it is right! and while we are on the subject, why not bring back the slave trade and at the same time re-introduce capital punishment, they are all forms of mindless brutality towards any type of living creature !!! mad :x :x
Bullying, ridiculing, betraying, inflicting suffering on others, is inherent in human nature.
If anyone talks, looks, acts different in any way to the bullies, they are picked on by the bigheaded, arrogant, ignorant, minority.
This, sadly is human nature, and certain ones deliberately set out to humiliate anyone they see as fair game, others, who perhaps have not got the confidence of their tormentors. I have been a victim all my life of these nasty, heartless, cruel individuals who haven't a spark of compassion in their vicious, indifferent minds. mad :x :x
Quote by lucyweebaps
Why do some..( not all ) Single men spit out the dummy when they are told NO SINGLE MALES! Is it a pride thing? dunno
Is It not everyones perogative on whom they desire or wish to swing with? We are all entitled to have our own personal sexual desires! ..So what gets me is why some of them don't understand and seem to take it very personal when told thx but not thx..Should We have to explain why the interest is not there! Personally I don't believe anyone should have to explain their reason."No thx should be enough ! Everyone has their own boundaries and desires. and those boundaries/desires should be repected by others! Perhaps if guilty ones took a leaf out of some of the other guys book s, Get to know Couples well before pressuring them then maybe have a bit more luck!
Lucy xx
PS ..Plz Note ( Not All Single Guys) before I get lynched for this post

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I'm a single guy and I never reply to ads. that say no single men, what is the point?
however, I am a single straight guy, so I have no chance at all, the single bi/guys do get opportunities sometimes, so what have they to moan about?
Only just seen the post about Judy, but buck up Judy and I hope you feel a lot better soon.
best wishes.O. K.
Quote by yin yang
Why left-handers still feel left out
Angelique Chrisafis, Arts correspondent
Guardian
Thursday June 6, 2002

Over the centuries they have been beaten on the knuckles, locked up, ridiculed and prevented from reproducing in case they spawned freaks.
Now left-handers are facing another affront. A psychology professor told the Guardian Hay festival yesterday that society will never stop being biologically and culturally dominated by right-handers at the psychological expense of those who hold their pencil in their left hand.
Chris McManus, a professor of psychology and medical education at University College London, trawled thousands of years of the history of cells and culture - from "left-handed" amino acids, to stone age tool-making practices and Giotto frescos - and found that "right equals good and left equals bad" in common perception.
In his book Right Hand, Left Hand, he noted how expressions for the word "left" had become terms of abuse in every culture - something that New Labour might already be aware of.
"Our society is organised according to right-handers. Left-handers are the last of the great neglected minorities," said Prof McManus, who is a right-hander with a left-handed mother and daughter.
In Britain around 13% of men and around 11% of women are left-handed, compared with 3% before 1910. Left-handedness coincides with high incidences of genius and creativity, and also autism and dyslexia.
"The one thing that will change the suffering of left-handers is to get engineers to see that for 10% of users, their designs are still back to front. Scissors, microwave doors, power saws and water gauges on the side of kettles are a constant reminder. Psychologically, left-handers still claim to have problems. The social consequences are immense."
I told you it was an insane world...FFS! And I am ambidextrous! No wonder I am so confused...
I write left hand, kick a ball LH, drive LH, wank LH, D.I.Y. LH, make tea LH, comput LH, Hold a woman whilst shagging LH, and I'm a bloody genius !!! RIGHT !!!
Quote by corriefem
Well I have been on the site for a little while and have still to get my head around the questions OK has asked. I have never been in love with a partner who would have allowed swinging to take place and that is how I was brought up. Not that we never had fantasies just acted them out together redface surprisedops: I am finally coming to terms with swinging but have yet like Misschief to make that leap into it and it may still or never happen :shock: :shock: lol :lol: If it does it will be with someone who is a very special partner not necessarily someone I love but someone who makes me feel safe in the knowledge that I would be the one they wanted on a full time basis. Its not my main reason for being on here though so dont all rush to pm me with your vital statistics lol lol

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Thank you for your post Corriefem, you seem like me, to be overawed and fascinated by the Swinging scene, it is something my ex- wife and I would never have dreamed of during our twenty years together, but as far as I know, there was nothing like swinging, only adultery, which carried a heavy penalty I.E. disgrace, shame and being ostracised from society, loss of your job and everything else, leaving the rest of your life to repent without forgiveness.
Quote by MISSCHIEF
Please accept my profound appologies for giviing the wrong impression in my recent post. :color: redface

I didn't think you gave off the wrong impression, you asked a few questions, you didn't preach, complain or moan, just asked.
So stop yer fretting and ask away biggrin
kiss
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Thanks for your comments and your support Misschief.
O. K.
Quote by JudyTV
How can one equate love and Swinging? Love is for a special person only! swinging is just sex! isn't it?one cannot mix the two! can they? When one meets their soulmate and they fall deeply in love, they want to have sex with that person only! don't they? surely not go round shagging everone and anyone, what message does that send to other people?
I do not wish to take the moral high ground here, but the mixing of love and swinging, even together, is a contradiction in terms! isn't it? how can one love their partner I.E. husband/wife/companion, if they are having sex with someone else? perhaps I am too old ! or the moral standards I was taught as a child, just don't apply any more !!! maybe, I have stood still, while the World has moved along !!! Does that make me a Dinausour???

Hi O.K,
Several things to address here I think,
You are unsure about statements you are making, this is reflected by the questions at the end of hard statements. eg. "One cannot mix the two! can they? " a question and statement this indicated that you want us to agree to something that is already set in your mind but you pose is as a question to soften it.
You then go on to ask "how can one equate love and swinging? (question) "Love is for a special person only" What is it you are asking here?
You then go on to say you do not wish to take the moral high ground but then attempt to do just that by declaring "but the mixing of love and swinging, even together, is a contradiction in terms! isn't it?" again a heavy statement followed by a question. Why ask the question if you have already made your mind up and have decided on the answer. You ask if you are a Dinosaur and you include Triple question marks so I assume here this is a genuine question regarding your confusion as to the morals of swinging in general.
Your statement "surely not go round shagging everyone and anyone, what message does that send to other people?" where have you got this idea from? this is not the SH swinging scene I have come to know and love.
I understand your confusions and I can see you are unsure of what it is the Swinging scene has to offer. However, please don't generalise by implying that we are all animalistic low moralled beings that shag all and everyone that moves. We do have morals and we have standards, at least the people that I know do. So, loose morals ? shagging all and everyone? loveless and without distinction ? Unable to equate sex and love? Oh dear surely not dear, surely not. I think you have the wrong idea about SH and you certainly have the wrong impression about the people on here.
Can I respectfully suggest a re evaluation of us and our site and get to know some of us on a more social level before outrightly condemning us.
If I have misread you and your intentions then I beg your forgiveness in advance.
JudyTV........ a Tranny with some morals and with love in my heart if not always in the bedroom.
Hi Judy,
Thanks for your most eloquent reply, I did say that my comments were observational and not judgemental, based on the standards of this christian society that most people in this country were taught.
I certainly do not condem the members of Swinging Heaven, indeed, I would be a swinger myself if I was young enough and had the opportunity, so please do not put words into my mouth.
As regards you saying that I make a statement and then asking a question, I was merely
asking for other opinions, as a contradiction begs a qualified answer, also, although I am old, I can assure you that I have all my faculties and I am decidedly not confused.
I do not need to re-evaluate, as I have already made up my mind about Swinging Heaven and its members and as I have already said, I respect anyones choice of lifestyle and would never think of condeming anyone on this site or indeed anyone else.
If you read my second post, you will see that I had already apologised for any offence I may have caused by the first one, It was certainly not intentional. redface surprisedops:
Quote by JandPUK
"Love is for a special person only." Well, we're in disagreement already; people can love lots of others - parents, brothers, sisters, children, long time friends and so on. So I suppose that what you mean is 'sexual love'. Certainly that is a special bond between people who are married, and it's another way of sharing. However, a deep meaningful relationship is a lot more than sex, which is only part (though a very good part) of it.
Some, perhaps most, couples prefer to limit sexual activity with each other, and that's fine. However, we're all different, and our approaches to sex are also very individual, obviously. Sexual activity is a very enjoyable thing, but I don't particularly see why it should be limited in the way you suggest, *as long as* both partners are happy with it. I'd much rather be with my partner, and watching her having an enjoyable time in a sexual activity than to be apart from her while we were both engaged in other activities. For us, it's all about sharing, and enjoying the other person enjoying something.
As for messages to other people - to be honest, I think the world would be a much better place if people shared more and fought less. Many of our friends know what we do, and I can honestly say that it's never caused a problem for any of them, and indeed some have tried it themselves, and have had a great time. So I think far from giving a negative message, it's actually a very positive one.
You say that you don't want to take the moral high ground, but that's exactly what you *are* trying to do, IMO. If you don't like what others do - that's fine, and I have no problem with it, but really, that's not what you're doing here, is it? Given your attitude and approach I really do have to wonder slightly as to your motivation for posting, but perhaps I'm just slightly cynical?
However, back to the point - I think you're confusing love and sex, and trying to make them equate to each other. Sure, for some, that's what works for them, but it doesn't for everyone. Love and sex compliment each other, but they're certainly not the same thing.
Another point that you make is also worth commenting on, and that's regarding the moral standards you were taught as a child. Morality is not something that stands still, nor are particular morals universal, one only has to look at different countries to see that. If your moral approach is fine for you - more power to you. However, your morals are not mine, and you shouldn't expect them to be. That doesn't mean you're right and I'm wrong, or vice versa, it just means that we're different, that's all. So no, the moral standards you were taught as a child (or at least those relating to sexual behaviour) don't apply to me, or many of the other people posting here, and I don't think you should either expect them to, or be surprised when they don't.

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Sorry if I have offended anyone, it certainly was not my intention to be judgemental, I have the greatest respect for all the people who use this site, my comments where more observational rather than condemnatory.
Stricktly speaking, I am not a swinger as I have never had the inclination or indeed the opportunity to take part, as I am a very old person living alone spending many hours each day on my computer and find the attitude of Swinging Heaven members quite refershing and uplifting.
Since my divorce in the 70s, I have had a number of "unfortunate" experiences with various ladies that left me physically and mentally exhausted, so you see, I am not without faults and not taking the moral high ground or trying to be superior.
It is just that Swinging is to me a modern phenomenum which is both intruigeing and fascinating and reflects the changed moral climate during my long lifetime and as membership of S. H. is open to everyone, I have taken the chance to Participate in this cheerfull and happy community.
Please accept my profound appologies for giviing the wrong impression in my recent post. :color: redface
How can one equate love and Swinging? Love is for a special person only! swinging is just sex! isn't it?one cannot mix the two! can they? When one meets their soulmate and they fall deeply in love, they want to have sex with that person only! don't they? surely not go round shagging everone and anyone, what message does that send to other people?
I do not wish to take the moral high ground here, but the mixing of love and swinging, even together, is a contradiction in terms! isn't it? how can one love their partner I.E. husband/wife/companion, if they are having sex with someone else? perhaps I am too old ! or the moral standards I was taught as a child, just don't apply any more !!! maybe, I have stood still, while the World has moved along !!! Does that make me a Dinausour???