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Robert400andKay
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 63
Bisexual Female, 52
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Quote by MidsCouple24
Even if they called it right and being a member of the UKIP is a factor in this arrangement, they are openly admitting that they didn't know the foster parents were members of the party when they placed the children in their care, makes me wonder what else they don't know about families they are fostering children too ? if it is a serious factor then they should have made sure they know before the children were handed over.

I think it is just down to sensationalist anti multicultural reporting by the press. If you read the URL above it would seem that -
In one case, a white girl who was sexually abused by an Asian gang from the age of 12 was offered lessons in Urdu and Punjabi by her local council after her ordeal, to "try to engage her in education".

Reading this I'm inclined to think the Rotherham SS shouldn't be in charge of a sweet shop, never mind the care of vulnerable children. It looks like these folks are getting an undeserved kicking from the press, surely they can't be this incompetent?
Rotherham Social Services do seem to be getting a bit of bad coverage for sensitivity to the best interests of their ethnic minorities. It would seem that this isn't the first case where the anti multicultural press have given them a going over.
Quote by Ben_Minx
Agriculture
Construction
Manufacturing

The Armed forces do jobs where they risk their lives for the good of others. Whilst it might ultimately be argued that a war wasn't for the greater good that is the fault of the politicians not the Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen that took part.
To my mind that is why I think the country owes more of a debt of respect to Soldiers than say Farmers, Civil Engineers, and Factory workers.
Just trying to think of something rude and naughty to add to this post to bump it back up again. At the minute after having two injections and what with there only being a mere 20,400 shopping minutes left until Christmas, I'm bit out of rude and naughty.
Maybe the gorgeous Kay will think of something tomorrow when she sees this post smile.
Quote by MidsCouple24
I was only referring to this topic, but it has taken another line away from "his rights v the rights" of the population of Britain (as I said be they muslim, christian, black, white, jew or gentile)
I agree wholeheartedly that it is being taught to the children and that is one of the reasons I advocate his removal because he teaches them, he admits this, we have seen the evidence of it.
HOWEVER, I do not believe it is too late, my first street patrol in NI was in the Turf Lodge district of Belfast, we got stoned (as in people through stones not got high) I saw a boy of about 4-5 years old pick up a very small stone and attempt to throw it, it landed behind him his parents told him what a good boy he was, I laughed, but later I thought "one day it will be an AK47 in his hands". But we overcame much of that hatred, we taught many in Ireland that the bullet is not the best way and now with the ballot box and a ceasefire the aims of those same terrorists are being achieved, slowly but surely they are getting the better deal they sought, not all muslims hate us, more than 500 muslims are currently serving in the British Armed Forces, with the help of the decent muslims amongst us (the majority) our understanding and a lot of work we can undo what people who preach hatred and violence teach, the first step is to invoke our current laws re inciting racial hatred, inciting public unrest, we must have some that stop someone preaching hatred and murder, then we need to win the hearts and minds of those that have been taught to hate us. They are citizens of the United Kingdom after all.
In the street where I live it is predominantely Polish residents, there are at least 30 single guys living within a stones throw (not literally I left that scene back in NI) they often gather on the street corners drinking beer, they have a favourite spot just at the bottom of my garden on some waste ground, does it bother me, absolutely not, when I walk past they say hello, if I am with a females no matter how she is dressed they are respectfull, if only I could say the same about groups of young British males .......

Mids isn't this the argument for sorting this one out according to the laws. How many hearts and minds do we win if the UK arranges:

- Abu Qatada is dropped off back in Jordan (against our own laws) and say from 20,000 feet
- we put up with him until such time as the legal situation is resolved

Wasn't it very much the second sort of behaviour that took the stones, and AK47s out of the 'troubles' in NI?
Don't get me wrong I find the idea, that he, his wife and 5 children, as a foreigner having not contributed at all, is living at the tax payers expense in an £800,000 property and presumably drawing a small fortune, is utterly disgusting. Never mind preaching hatred against the people who support him, and having the temerity to sue for money.
But if we sort this one out properly just maybe some, hopefully quite a lot, of the hearts and minds will realise what a civilised society and even religion is all about?
Quote by MidsCouple24
... Lithuania is quite North as is Poland and other member states, Britain would be more South East and without checking the list of European states probably the most Southerly state of the EU.....

If you look Vilnius is on about the same latitude as Hull smile.
Concede that one but won't concede that Sweden and Finland are less North than the United Kingdom wink
Also the UK, or as it is sometimes known 'England and the collection of countries that were vanquished by England', is more to the West of Europe. Germany and Poland both have bits that are further south than the Lizard point.
I think the remaining argument about Abu Qatada is that he might now be tried based on evidence which had been obtained by torture. It appears that he is now planning to sue the UK for 10 Million.
Quote by MidsCouple24
... Lithuania is quite North as is Poland and other member states, Britain would be more South East and without checking the list of European states probably the most Southerly state of the EU.....

If you look Vilnius is on about the same latitude as Hull smile.
I did think Scotland was in fact a part of Great Britain? So people born in either of Scotland, Lancashire, and Cumbria would still have a legitimate claim to a British passport.
Quote by starlightcouple
What the feck was Lord ever so high and mighty Prescott doing in race to be voted in?

Reducing levels of Police brutality for more portly driver of Jaguar motor cars?
I didn't vote, partly because I had almost no idea who the candidates were, and mainly because we weren't even sent polling cards.
Quote by foxylady2209
I ditched Microsoft a while ago and made the move to Linux, well almost. I chose Zorin, a flavour of Linux, based on Ubuntu (despite it sounding like a Bond villain lol ). It is described as "The gateway to Linux for Windows users", so far so good, Oh and it's free.

I would be interested in trying something non-windows but what about compatibility? If I write a document, can Windows users still open it? Can I even write a document? :veryignorant:
Ubuntu (I haven't used Zorin) comes with an Open Office bundle which allows you to save documents in pretty much all the Microsoft Formats. Failing all other options save as MS Word 97/2000/XP format. Some of the later Microsoft Office can also read the Open Office format.
Open Office consists of Writer, Calc, Draw, and Impress which correspond to the MS Office products Word, Excel, MS Graphic, and Power Point. The Open Office will just open the equivalent MS files and save them as the MS format. If you just want to try Open Office you can also download a version for Windows.

If you want to try Unbuntu you can download a copy and make a DVD

Or stick it on a memory stick and run it from that (this is a bit more complicated). Running off the DVD (or memory stick) you can try it out without even affecting the installed Windows (well unless you then ask it to install or write stuff to the hard drive).
He was bailed I did think that required a charge of some sort, otherwise the Police would just let you go. Can't find any reference to a charge although I am looking at the BBC web site smile
Quote by starlightcouple

...Plus in my local gym there are tv's and all sorts to look at, especially last time when there was a young lady bending over slightly to my left in the tightest white shorts I have ever seen. lol ...

So was that a young lady in tight Lycra shorts, or a TV? Inquiring minds need to know? :lol:
Quote by Lizaleanrob
about a year or so ago i was stuck at a pedestrian crossing in London in the middle of a traffic jam.
a woman decided to cross the crossing whilst the traffic was stationary, at the very same time as a cyclist rides down the middle of the road and rides into this woman crossing the road
the cyclist first reaction when got up was to check his bike ,he then proceeded to abuse the woman who was still on the floor with what i now believe to be cyclist logic loon
his first argument was that she should have been aware of him and waited for the traffic to stop, (which was pointed out to him it was stopped :dohsmile
the next was the funniest when he said,,,,,,,, he was in exactly the same place every day as if he had some kind of right of passage and it was this woman's fault for being there at the wrong time of the day.
kept me chuckling for days lol
like steve says all this weaving in and out of traffic is NOT part of any cycling or motorcycle test iv'e ever been on, go figure dunno

About two or three years ago I was forced onto the path by a car overtaking cars on his side of the road. The driver then proceeded to flick the V's at me on the way past. I turned and caught up with him at the next junction.
His response to the question 'why he thought he had the right of way' was that I should give way to him because his car was much bigger and better than mine. Make of this what you will.
Personally I think there are probably more 'bad' impatient drivers than there are cyclists.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
was wiggo wearing any high viz does anybody know as when i see him after winning the tour de france, when he road out he wasn't in fact he looked more like he should have been delivering a box of milk tray wink

Maybe he was, maybe not. He was being followed by a team safety car. Perhaps he thought the flashing lights were enough .....
Quote by Steve
.... it is the motorist that lacks a little patience it's not the motorist who can be seen ducking and diving in and out of stationary or slow moving traffic in an effort to get where they are going as fast as possible...
It's chuffin cyclists(and motorcyclists) ....

Yes absolutely particularly on this occasion!!! As Mr Wiggins weaved in and out of traffic proceeding (not as such reported at the time but no doubt this is being covered up) along a straight road past a garage he should have known that he should give way to traffic coming out of the garage. It is after all the unwritten rules of the road. Every god fearing motorist knows you just always give way to traffic coming from garages. To not do so would be totally impatient in spite of traffic regulations indicating that you have the right of way.
Let's be honest all motorists would do exactly the same ... I have no doubt you would do exactly the same Steve.
I'm sure the witnesses are just lying because Wiggins is both a great sportsman and an Olympic gold winner. No doubt the police will charge the driver with driving with undue care and attention for the same reasons. It is so totally unfair an innocent driver may get prosecuted, and a villainous cyclist escapes Scot free with hardly any consequences.
Quote by GnV
Obama hasn't become messianic during his first term of office. Nor will be be in his second term. He appears to me to not have changed his persona from when he first sought election and wiped the floor, rightly so, with McCain 4 years ago.
Mitt Romney was never going to make it.

You never struck me as a Democrat GNV smile. Good point, I guess my feelings on Obama stem more from the broken promises aspect, I had forgotten how truly 'odd' TB really became during his time.
So it would seem President Obama has won. I am reminded of a joke someone told me a long time ago 'If God intended America to have a president he would have given America some candidates'....
Personally I think of Obama as being just a bit too much like our own beloved Tony Blair.
Quote by flower411
I seem to remember that many moons ago fireworks were not so widely available and certainly weren`t on sale for such a long period of time around November 5th.
So when we went on school trips to France we always made a point of buying fireworks, where they were widely available........... and flick knives as it happens lol
So if we are going to ban fireworks here we should probably make sure they are banned in Europe as well ...... maybe a nice little job for the European courts :lol:

I seem to remember both 'Crow Scarers', Ammonium Nitrate and Sodium Clorate all available for a reasonable price at any good farming supply shop.
Quote by KayandRobert400
... with a mighty big bang kissblast :cheers:smackbottomsillyhwoar:passionkiss:passionkiss: lol

Kay I hope your not organising an orgy for New Year.
Quote by GnV
and New labour now, star?
I'm not certain that calling John Prescott a Tory would go down well in the Hull Labour Club that he frequented (maybe still does) - not if you treasure your kneecaps that is! Seamen and dockers aren't known for their subtlety I'm reliably informed. A fish hook through your gullet or a punch in the face is more their style :lol2:
And what of 'The Beast of Bolsover'? A Tory????
Tony Benn (not his limp wristed son) ?
If anything, TB was more communist than Tory..... Khrushchev comes to mind here.

You get some good (well not so bad), and bad ones. I personally never really thought of Tony Blair as communist, but then I tend to think of the political spectrum as more of a circle than a line. Go far enough in the left, or West direction and you just start coming back round from the right or East.
It seems the welfare reforms are going ahead, households where somebody earns over £50,000 will be getting a reduced level of child benefit. Not quite sure how this hits the poor myself?
There does seem to be a bit of smoke now, even with the inevitable jumping on the band wagon, it does look like there is also a fire.
Quote by Max777
Personally, I would rather have well educated people in government not socialists devoid of original thought. If you saw Question Time last night - there were two female MP's on. One was educated, articulate, polite and put across a compelling argument - the other was like a pre programmed tape machine - devoid of original thought and unable to put a compelling case other than to attack her opposite number. It was actually quite embarrassing for her.

You didn't rate the Shadow Attorney General then? Claire Perry was much easier on the eye too! wink
PM Jim Hacker: "Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers:
The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country,
the Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country,
the Times is read by people who actually do run the country,
the Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country,
the Financial Times is read by people who own the country,
the Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country
and the Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is."
Sir Humphrey: "Prime Minister, what about the people who read the Sun?"
Bernard Wooley: "Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits." :wink:
I have read a report that suggests that, far from decreasing the rates of bovine TB, culling tends to cause a increase.
Quote by KayandRobert400
Think again darling

Oh yes you have just read 50 Shades, it would be hand cuffs, a bull whip, and baby oil?
Love you btw x x x
Quote by flower411
I`d love to know the details of the reciprocal arrangement currently in place with the US regarding extradition of US citizens who have committed crimes on US soil .
In edit : of course when I said "committed" I meant people who been "accused" of crimes .rolleyes

The arrangements are reciprocal at least according to the committee appointed to review exactly that question. Much of the controversy is around the phrases 'Probably cause' and 'Reasonable suspicion', which it was considered mean the same in the US and UK respectively.
They weren't for a brief period around 2003 when the Natwest three were extradited, but this doesn't apply to McKinnon.
Further to this statistically it would seem that the UK requests about one extradition for every 7 US request. This has been attributed to the fact that the UK is less likely to request extradition from the US.