Hi mincepie,
Point taken. Its that moment of decision. Will she feel "oh yes, OK then" or will it be a "let's get on with it" or somewhere in between. There is nothing worse that when it looks like the right moment and you end up kissing her cheek because she's turned her head.
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How do you kiss, perhaps someone for the first time? Forget about the tongue becoming involved for the moment.
As a male my thought once you get to the point of a more serious kiss once your lips meet is a gentle rolling movement. Having kissed a few 50 plus ladies lately I find that most of them seem to have more of a chewing movement. I do similar then to keep up with them. Its very nice but not something I'd have risked doing for the first kiss in case they thought I was being too 'friendly'.
So, boys and girls, particularly girls, how do you like to be kissed?
I should add that this was not in a swinging atmosphere but a meeting of two people where a relationship might follow.
Smooth1
As a male my thought once you get to the point of a more serious kiss once your lips meet is a gentle rolling movement. Having kissed a few 50 plus ladies lately I find that most of them seem to have more of a chewing movement. I do similar then to keep up with them. Its very nice but not something I'd have risked doing for the first kiss in case they thought I was being too 'friendly'.
So, boys and girls, particularly girls, how do you like to be kissed?
I should add that this was not in a swinging atmosphere but a meeting of two people where a relationship might follow.
Smooth1
Quote by Dave__Notts
As Monday slowly approaches I have been having some funny feelings.
I have had a strange attraction to buy baguettes instead of a sliced tin loaf...........I see a flapping red, white and blue cloth when I close my eyes.........small amphibians and gastropods seem ok to eat for lunch.........and I have taken to riding a bike wearing a striped tee-shirt, a beret and a string of onions around my neck.
This makes me want to sing "La Marseillaise".
And in my sleep I keep seeing the letters and numbers "Fra 2-0 Eng".
I also have an urge to scream:
Vive Le France
I have no idea what this means or why I am getting this feeling.................but some unknown feeling inside of me tells me that I am going to enjoy Monday
Dave_Notts
Is there something happening on Monday? Smooth1 (South Wales)
It wasn't anything that I had given any thought to but it seems a real possibility when you think about it. With the very graphic pics and movies that are so easily viewable now it probably is very easy to many guys (women as well perhaps) to become hooked on watching them and lose the natural desire for company of the opposite (or same sex). The computer screen becomes a companion who costs little, doesn't nag and only gives grief when it breaks down.
I think that we all in the swinging community past and present have become a little complacent with how much sex and sex as part of a relationship plays in our lives. As swingers the 'keeping it for the partner only' has long gone but in the main we are in control of it and when it goes right its fantastic.
You do not have to look at many of the 'couples' on webcam on here to see that during the daytime many are guys beating the bishop in front of their cam. I just wonder if some of them are seeking and finding equal or more pleasure in doing that than they can achieve with their partners. How many partners I wonder know that their mates spend at least part of the day doing that?
Yes, I as a healthy widowed male do respond to pics and movies and enjoy myself but that is done more from a point of release of sexual tension rather than the exhibitionism shown by many.
Smooth1
I think that we all in the swinging community past and present have become a little complacent with how much sex and sex as part of a relationship plays in our lives. As swingers the 'keeping it for the partner only' has long gone but in the main we are in control of it and when it goes right its fantastic.
You do not have to look at many of the 'couples' on webcam on here to see that during the daytime many are guys beating the bishop in front of their cam. I just wonder if some of them are seeking and finding equal or more pleasure in doing that than they can achieve with their partners. How many partners I wonder know that their mates spend at least part of the day doing that?
Yes, I as a healthy widowed male do respond to pics and movies and enjoy myself but that is done more from a point of release of sexual tension rather than the exhibitionism shown by many.
Smooth1
Thanks eveyone for posting so far. Glad to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks that way. Had wondered if it was me hearing what sounded it being out of tune and even coming close to shouting at one point. I hear on the news this morning that an 'enquiry' is under way! Well! That should solve everything....more people being paid to discover that it was crap to start.
Undoubtedly Eurovision has changed in the last 5 to 10 years but there is always a winner and it does stand out from the others. Last night it was Sweden.
Just a thought but nearly every time I hear a new song by Madonna I think that could be a Eurovision winner. (Not sure musically here) but there seems to a change of key that elevates from a good to better level makes it a winner. Perhaps the BBC should contact the writers of Madonna's song and engage them to write a 'winner' for next year. Then they would have to find a preferably female singer who has a good voice and doesn't sing through her nose!!!!! Come back Mary Hopkin!!!!
With the Balkan region in each other's pockets perhaps there is not much chance of winning but to be respectable top-10 would be wonderful.
Smooth1
Undoubtedly Eurovision has changed in the last 5 to 10 years but there is always a winner and it does stand out from the others. Last night it was Sweden.
Just a thought but nearly every time I hear a new song by Madonna I think that could be a Eurovision winner. (Not sure musically here) but there seems to a change of key that elevates from a good to better level makes it a winner. Perhaps the BBC should contact the writers of Madonna's song and engage them to write a 'winner' for next year. Then they would have to find a preferably female singer who has a good voice and doesn't sing through her nose!!!!! Come back Mary Hopkin!!!!
With the Balkan region in each other's pockets perhaps there is not much chance of winning but to be respectable top-10 would be wonderful.
Smooth1
Sweden have won it with 372 points and the UK have finished one off the bottom with 12 points......its about normal. The Balkans were closer together than ever. I have to say that when I heard what was to be the UK entry I thought it was crap! I really do think that whoever chose the song and singer should be looking at the 'Jobs' pages on Monday!!!!
Being very cynical probably but I think the only benefits we will see is a huge return for those who have invested money to start. Here in South Wales I don't expect it to make one jot of difference to me or many other parts of the country!
Already been touched on but I'm fed up of seeing all the companies claiming to be the official Olympic supplier of this that and the other...don't think I've seen Durex yet!!!!
Smooth1
Already been touched on but I'm fed up of seeing all the companies claiming to be the official Olympic supplier of this that and the other...don't think I've seen Durex yet!!!!
Smooth1
Do I take it that you are not a naturist then?
The "taking it as a bit of fun" is the very reason that I would be against this programme.
The general public (textiles) see naturism as something connected with sex, orgies etc,
or they will laugh about it with 'dirty postcard mentality'.
It might bring it into the public eye but I don't think for one moment that the slightest bit of thought will be given to what naturism is really about. It wouldn't get any laughs. Its likely to be just another 'made to entertain and titilate (if you're lucky) piece of tv fodder.
Smooth1
The "taking it as a bit of fun" is the very reason that I would be against this programme.
The general public (textiles) see naturism as something connected with sex, orgies etc,
or they will laugh about it with 'dirty postcard mentality'.
It might bring it into the public eye but I don't think for one moment that the slightest bit of thought will be given to what naturism is really about. It wouldn't get any laughs. Its likely to be just another 'made to entertain and titilate (if you're lucky) piece of tv fodder.
Smooth1
Hi,
Does not look like anyone else is going to add to this thread so let me be the first.
Whilst it may be a good idea to bring naturism into the public eye a little I have to say that I think the idea is absolutely appalling.
The general public see naturism as something of a joke thanks to the 'dirty postcard' mentality and the likes of the tabloids, 'The Sun'in particular for maintaining it and usually making an all too frequently incorrect connection that naturism equates with naked orgies and such carrying on.
If this pilot goes ahaed which I hope it won't it will be interesting to see just how much skin will be shown. Its hardly going to work if you are only allowed to see a head and shoulders or the occasional bum. That is not what naturism is all about. One thing is sure that they will not convey the true spirit of what naturism stands for. The freedom of not being hindered by clothes and the opportunity to bring up a family within the safety of the naturist umbrella and have no hang-ups about the way they look.
I suppose that I have painted something of a rose-tinted picture of naturism. Well, there is another side as well. Yes, we have played with several other couples whilst staying at a naturist site over the years. It does go on but is always done with discretion. Nudity and naturism is far more widely accepted in Europe and long may it be so. I'm sure its being held back here by the British 'stiff upper lip' and all that.
We may be a bit different in shap but we really are all the same.
GO ON, make a stand this summer and experience the joy of naturism.
Jed, I'd be interested on your take on this.
Smooth1
Does not look like anyone else is going to add to this thread so let me be the first.
Whilst it may be a good idea to bring naturism into the public eye a little I have to say that I think the idea is absolutely appalling.
The general public see naturism as something of a joke thanks to the 'dirty postcard' mentality and the likes of the tabloids, 'The Sun'in particular for maintaining it and usually making an all too frequently incorrect connection that naturism equates with naked orgies and such carrying on.
If this pilot goes ahaed which I hope it won't it will be interesting to see just how much skin will be shown. Its hardly going to work if you are only allowed to see a head and shoulders or the occasional bum. That is not what naturism is all about. One thing is sure that they will not convey the true spirit of what naturism stands for. The freedom of not being hindered by clothes and the opportunity to bring up a family within the safety of the naturist umbrella and have no hang-ups about the way they look.
I suppose that I have painted something of a rose-tinted picture of naturism. Well, there is another side as well. Yes, we have played with several other couples whilst staying at a naturist site over the years. It does go on but is always done with discretion. Nudity and naturism is far more widely accepted in Europe and long may it be so. I'm sure its being held back here by the British 'stiff upper lip' and all that.
We may be a bit different in shap but we really are all the same.
GO ON, make a stand this summer and experience the joy of naturism.
Jed, I'd be interested on your take on this.
Smooth1
Jed, how long did you spend in hospital?????
In reading the start thread my first though and perhaps a poor analogy is why do golfers like to play on other courses rather than keep playing on the one that they are a member of?
If we are all honest then there is probably a difficulty at home ranging from the minor bored one to major problems that it is hoped swinging will repair. As most of us know, swinging very rarely helps things that are too far down the road. Some might ask that if you are totally happy in the relationship....why swing? For the lucky few swinging is very much a social thing and less of a sexual thing. To send time with a couple or whoever that you feel totally comfortable with is wonderful. The opportunity to become very intimate and have oral or full sex is an additional pleasure of enjoying their company. Its not a challenge or about having something to prove its that for these people (and my late wife and I felt this)that sex is a recreational pleasure and spending the best quality time doing something that you enjoy with people who become very close friends and with such friends you can really talk about anything. Even things you would not tell your absolute non-swinging best friend about.
Smooth1
In reading the start thread my first though and perhaps a poor analogy is why do golfers like to play on other courses rather than keep playing on the one that they are a member of?
If we are all honest then there is probably a difficulty at home ranging from the minor bored one to major problems that it is hoped swinging will repair. As most of us know, swinging very rarely helps things that are too far down the road. Some might ask that if you are totally happy in the relationship....why swing? For the lucky few swinging is very much a social thing and less of a sexual thing. To send time with a couple or whoever that you feel totally comfortable with is wonderful. The opportunity to become very intimate and have oral or full sex is an additional pleasure of enjoying their company. Its not a challenge or about having something to prove its that for these people (and my late wife and I felt this)that sex is a recreational pleasure and spending the best quality time doing something that you enjoy with people who become very close friends and with such friends you can really talk about anything. Even things you would not tell your absolute non-swinging best friend about.
Smooth1
Hi, perhaps I can kick this one off.
For us it would not necessarily have been what is written but equally what is not written. I seem to recall that you have touched on this recently. Don't want to read about the 'high standard of living',holidays to our villa in Spain or we are a 'proffessionel cuple' (yes I know!).
It's not always something that you can describe but an honesty that comes through from the way the advert and profiles are written. The absence of text-speak would be a big plus as would a good standard of grammar.
Having a special photo is a big plus too. There are plenty of boob shots etc but I would have to say that there are not that many where the main photo says something more about the couple/person. J&S, your main photo shouts volumes about you as a couple. Jed, you could have your arms around Sasha's waist but have your hands on her hips. That says much more about how 'together' you are as a couple and gives a far more sensual/erotic message to someone wanting to meet. You have achieved it without any nakedness. Good for you.
Smooth1
For us it would not necessarily have been what is written but equally what is not written. I seem to recall that you have touched on this recently. Don't want to read about the 'high standard of living',holidays to our villa in Spain or we are a 'proffessionel cuple' (yes I know!).
It's not always something that you can describe but an honesty that comes through from the way the advert and profiles are written. The absence of text-speak would be a big plus as would a good standard of grammar.
Having a special photo is a big plus too. There are plenty of boob shots etc but I would have to say that there are not that many where the main photo says something more about the couple/person. J&S, your main photo shouts volumes about you as a couple. Jed, you could have your arms around Sasha's waist but have your hands on her hips. That says much more about how 'together' you are as a couple and gives a far more sensual/erotic message to someone wanting to meet. You have achieved it without any nakedness. Good for you.
Smooth1
It's not that bad!!!!
In my job I travel on the western side of the M25 quite often but some time ago had the opportunity to travel from the north side down to Dover and on to France. Seeing and going over the Dartford Crossing for the first time was a buzz. It was just as the daylight was fading and the lights on the ships etc were coming on. Would love to do it again.
Smooth1
In my job I travel on the western side of the M25 quite often but some time ago had the opportunity to travel from the north side down to Dover and on to France. Seeing and going over the Dartford Crossing for the first time was a buzz. It was just as the daylight was fading and the lights on the ships etc were coming on. Would love to do it again.
Smooth1
Hi,
I would agree with the consensus that you were a bit heavy-handed with that comment. However it is a sad fact of swinger life that single males are largely regarded a 'two-a-penny' when they contact couples mainly. Every message that we had was replied to with a courteous thankyou, but no thankyou. It does not take much to say no-thanks and its a lesson that many in the swinging world would do well to heed.
Smooth1
I would agree with the consensus that you were a bit heavy-handed with that comment. However it is a sad fact of swinger life that single males are largely regarded a 'two-a-penny' when they contact couples mainly. Every message that we had was replied to with a courteous thankyou, but no thankyou. It does not take much to say no-thanks and its a lesson that many in the swinging world would do well to heed.
Smooth1
Hi, what a great and thought provoking thread! Makes you kind of proud to be British to know that we could respond to a crisis. Suppose we have to put our faith in 'those wot know!' Going back to WW2 my mother when called up joined the RAF and was posted from Ware in Herts to RAF St Athan in the Vale of Glamorgan where she worked on battery maintenance for Lancasters.
My father was a civilian at St Athan and ended up in charge of maintenance and overhaul of Rolls Royce Merlin engines and others as fitted to Spitfires and Lancasters. They met and as they say the rest is history.
In the event of the 'next one', at 56 I think I'm unlikely to be called up if conscription was reintroduced not to mention medical grounds. However I would hope to play a part with my agricultural engineering experience. Probably like the last one food supply and that means agriculture will be of major importance.
Well done for highlighting the arrangements that are 'known' subject.
Smooth1
My father was a civilian at St Athan and ended up in charge of maintenance and overhaul of Rolls Royce Merlin engines and others as fitted to Spitfires and Lancasters. They met and as they say the rest is history.
In the event of the 'next one', at 56 I think I'm unlikely to be called up if conscription was reintroduced not to mention medical grounds. However I would hope to play a part with my agricultural engineering experience. Probably like the last one food supply and that means agriculture will be of major importance.
Well done for highlighting the arrangements that are 'known' subject.
Smooth1
Hi all,
Can I call on your collective knowledge and experience to help with this question?
Can anyone think of a car model name from any manufacturer in any period of time where the body shape directly resembles the model name of the car?
Looking back over the UK names such as Escort,Cavalier,Avenger? or more up-market such as Spitfire, Interceptor etc...not one of these conveyed the shape of the car only the image that it was going to help you portray.
After a lot of thought the only one that I can think of is the Opel Manta A of which I had a 1972 model. The smooth flowing lines with a 'Manta' badge on the side (to me) certainly resembled the sea creature very closely.
Any suggestions would be very welcome.
Cheers
Smooth1
Can I call on your collective knowledge and experience to help with this question?
Can anyone think of a car model name from any manufacturer in any period of time where the body shape directly resembles the model name of the car?
Looking back over the UK names such as Escort,Cavalier,Avenger? or more up-market such as Spitfire, Interceptor etc...not one of these conveyed the shape of the car only the image that it was going to help you portray.
After a lot of thought the only one that I can think of is the Opel Manta A of which I had a 1972 model. The smooth flowing lines with a 'Manta' badge on the side (to me) certainly resembled the sea creature very closely.
Any suggestions would be very welcome.
Cheers
Smooth1
What the hell is the world coming to???
Much has been said about just being able to communicate. The profiles on a sex site are just the thin end of the wedge. The abuse of the language is found everywhere these days. OK, most are here to sell themselves in a way. It doesn't give much of an impression if a couple or whoever reading it think that that is the level of communication to expect. It seems today that many people use the hideous so-called text-speak in normal use not just for texting. OK when we send a text we like to abbreviate words but seeing the frequent use of i for I, 2, 4, R and U makes me cringe. The whole world has gone lazy and can't be bothered to use even a reasonable standard of English. I'm sure that its not that it doesn't exist its just that people are lazy.
To add to this I absolutely hate seeing words like 'Crimbo'. This bastardization of the English further adds to the sorry state we are in and what of the next generations?
Well done for raising the thread.
Off my soapbox now.
Smooth1
Much has been said about just being able to communicate. The profiles on a sex site are just the thin end of the wedge. The abuse of the language is found everywhere these days. OK, most are here to sell themselves in a way. It doesn't give much of an impression if a couple or whoever reading it think that that is the level of communication to expect. It seems today that many people use the hideous so-called text-speak in normal use not just for texting. OK when we send a text we like to abbreviate words but seeing the frequent use of i for I, 2, 4, R and U makes me cringe. The whole world has gone lazy and can't be bothered to use even a reasonable standard of English. I'm sure that its not that it doesn't exist its just that people are lazy.
To add to this I absolutely hate seeing words like 'Crimbo'. This bastardization of the English further adds to the sorry state we are in and what of the next generations?
Well done for raising the thread.
Off my soapbox now.
Smooth1
Being very much a breast man I enjoy nothing more than the sight of a lady, preferably mature, with prominent nipples and a large deep coloured aureola. Many ladies have aureolae which are almost indistinguishable from the surrounding breast skin. My late wife and most of our past swinging friends were the same. Also two ladies of recent acquaintance had aureolae almost indistinguishable from the surrounding skin tone irrespective of whether they were aroused or not. The recent ladies also had nipples which did not really respond to my best attentions and remained very low-key. Hope I was doing the right things!!
From the vast well of experience of fellow Forumites are the number of ladies with prominently deeper aureolae and constantly erect nipples in a minority? Hope I might strike lucky next time. NEVER MIND THE PERSONALITY, WHAT ABOUT YOUR NIPPLES!!!!! Joking of course.
Smooth1
From the vast well of experience of fellow Forumites are the number of ladies with prominently deeper aureolae and constantly erect nipples in a minority? Hope I might strike lucky next time. NEVER MIND THE PERSONALITY, WHAT ABOUT YOUR NIPPLES!!!!! Joking of course.
Smooth1
Hi, have to fly the flag for Sony here. I've got a NV-U92T affectionately known as 'Ethel'. Its got a big screen with easy to programme postcode or place details. None of them are 100% but I would not change to any other one. The annoying thing is that when Ethel says to go one way and I think the other way must be shorter she is enevitably right.
Good luck with your choice
Smooth1
Good luck with your choice
Smooth1
Hi, have just watched a very nice cam of a couple having sex and he giving her a prolonged fisting. Never tried it myself on my wife, only got as far as 3 or 4 fingers which she said was terriffic. Ladies, those of you that are able to accept a fist, is there more pleasure given than a good fingering of the clit and vaginal opening?
Could the feelings of being 'opened' up be reminiscent of childbirth maybe? Love to hear your thoughts and any guys who are able to do it to/with their partners.
Smooth1
Could the feelings of being 'opened' up be reminiscent of childbirth maybe? Love to hear your thoughts and any guys who are able to do it to/with their partners.
Smooth1
Hi everyone,
A very Merry Christmas to you all. A thankyou for the messages of support received in my time of loss. Just a couple of further thoughts. Please just pause for a moment and think of those near and dear who you have lost in 2011 and for 'Our Boys and Girls' serving overseas and for those who have given their lives in the service of their country.
Thanks
Wishing you all a Happy and Healthy New Year.
Smooth1
A very Merry Christmas to you all. A thankyou for the messages of support received in my time of loss. Just a couple of further thoughts. Please just pause for a moment and think of those near and dear who you have lost in 2011 and for 'Our Boys and Girls' serving overseas and for those who have given their lives in the service of their country.
Thanks
Wishing you all a Happy and Healthy New Year.
Smooth1
As has been said, taking Viagra, Levitra or Cialis is no certain way to get a hard-on. It needs stimulation usually of the female variety for it to work. I am in a position where surgery was carried out with a high risk of damage to the nerves in the area that cause the 'business-end' to work. Sadly I didn't escape!!!! I have tried all of the main brands on prescription (free in Wales) and can confirm that they work in different ways. Viagra is more instant and shorter lasting. Cialis may last for 48 hours but with slightly less of a hard-on when you get it. Levitra is somewhere between the two. Most can lead to 'flushing', runny nose or dry throat etc.
I have looked on the net about many alternatives to the above but usually there was a revue there somewhere saying that they did not work. Yohimbe is an African tree the bark of which is well known to enhance sexual desire and performance. It can also be dangerous if the recommended dose is exceeded. From my experience I can say that it does work. Its not going to turn you into some superstud but looked on as a assister to what you can already manage. The most popular form is in capsules taken three times a day with food.
By 'planned error' I started off by taking two 500mg capsules as I thought to give it a boot. The feelings of desire for women that I was in contact with were amazing. Not the sort of 'shag anything in a skirt' but a dramatic rise in affection for the already friend that I was thinking about. After about 2 hours the feelings subsided.
In some respects the experience was pleasurable but I'm not one to experiment with what are 'drugs' even if they are of a more organic origin.
Everyone will probably react differently though.
Smooth1
I have looked on the net about many alternatives to the above but usually there was a revue there somewhere saying that they did not work. Yohimbe is an African tree the bark of which is well known to enhance sexual desire and performance. It can also be dangerous if the recommended dose is exceeded. From my experience I can say that it does work. Its not going to turn you into some superstud but looked on as a assister to what you can already manage. The most popular form is in capsules taken three times a day with food.
By 'planned error' I started off by taking two 500mg capsules as I thought to give it a boot. The feelings of desire for women that I was in contact with were amazing. Not the sort of 'shag anything in a skirt' but a dramatic rise in affection for the already friend that I was thinking about. After about 2 hours the feelings subsided.
In some respects the experience was pleasurable but I'm not one to experiment with what are 'drugs' even if they are of a more organic origin.
Everyone will probably react differently though.
Smooth1
