Hi,
I would agree with Don. The male cumming however/wherever is not the B-all and end all for many, myself included. Whether you are in a 1 to 1, 4some or whatever there is a great amount of pleasure to be gained for the guy who is reasonably skilled with tongue and fingers. From times gone by it has been extremely satisfying to bring the lady very close to climax over a period of an hour or more and then stop at the crucial moment before for a few seconds. The next time her tension will mount further. It's not a controlling thing but purely giving pleasure. Often in the past the lady has begged me to continue with tounge and fingers with endearments of "don't stop you bastard!!!!!!"
And on several occasions the lady in question has ejaculated, perhaps for the first time.
The joy in seeing that you have achieved that for someone cannot be described.
There is another issue here as well and that it removes the pressure from the guy to perform like some stud, particularly if the equipment is a bit undersized or does not work as well as would be wished.
Smooth1
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Dawnie,
Thankyou for your perception and I would quote my late wife here "find someone who can give you what I can't". Sadly this rang true before her diagnosis as well. The lonliness and isolation leading to depression cannot be understood by anyone who has not experienced it. Research shows that the partners of people with cancer are the most vulnerable to it. The partner loses interest and so do you eventually.
Illicit affairs/encounters may be OK for the skirt and trouser chasers of this world but they are vital to many people to help them achieve even the modicum of happiness that so many people take for granted when their partner can be sexually exciting or at least medically able.
Smooth1
Thankyou for your perception and I would quote my late wife here "find someone who can give you what I can't". Sadly this rang true before her diagnosis as well. The lonliness and isolation leading to depression cannot be understood by anyone who has not experienced it. Research shows that the partners of people with cancer are the most vulnerable to it. The partner loses interest and so do you eventually.
Illicit affairs/encounters may be OK for the skirt and trouser chasers of this world but they are vital to many people to help them achieve even the modicum of happiness that so many people take for granted when their partner can be sexually exciting or at least medically able.
Smooth1
Hello,
As has been mentioned earlier it is very nice to have a reasoned discussion about something that means different things to different people. It is perhaps easier for me now to speak of my own situation and reasons for looking for someone else.
My wife passed away last Saturday after a marriage of 32 years. She had bravely fought breast cancer first and then secondary cancer after being given the all-clear for about two months at the beginning of February 2009.
We did it the 'right' way and respecting her wishes did not have sex before marriage. We did come? close to it on quite a few occasions. Our wedding night in Jersey was something of a disappointment. Given the fact that we were both tired etc there was little enthusiasm on her part to participate. Much of our married life has been similar.
Yes, we have had good times but she never had the drive to make the sexual relationship exciting. It wasn't quite as bad as 'the ceiling needs painting' but it was very one-sided. Legend has it that the man turns over after and goes to sleep and snores.....other way round for us! And guess who woke up first in the mornings!
I wouldn't even guess at the number of nights that something was hoped for/planned but she fell asleep first or frequently forgot. Perhaps the guys here will understand how frustrating it can be when this happens....perhaps more than for the ladies. Eventually you get into the situation of 'if she can't bother, why should I'. I could not ever contemplate "darling wake up I want to have the sex/make love you promised me". And so the rift gets deeper.
We tried swinging in the late 80's and 90's. Madame got little out of it and I think she went along for me. Sorry if this is dragging a bit but I think it would help to explain how a partner in a marriage becomes frustrated, lonely and even depressed.
After numerous talk-outs we were probably down to the last ditch attempt. The cancer was diagnosed in Aug 2007. We knew that things would not get any better now and whilst it may have been easy to leave, I would not do so when she needed me the most.
As the disease grew, physical contact between us became less and less. The chemo and radio therapy killed off the very little interest that she had. I don't know how they bottled their emotions and needs up years ago but its something that is almost impossible to do now. My lonliness and depression grew...almost total strangers in the same bed, inches apart. Madame suggested and encouraged me to find someone for company and more if necessary. Perhaps I was lucky in that I found a lady in a similar position quickly on IE and we had a hot friendship more than an affair.
The upshot of all this is that there are people with genuine reasons and needs that seek what is essentially an illicit affair due to their circumstances....not just looking for a bit on the side! I completely agree that to go behind your partner's back is not good and any person who fails to understand that their partner has genuine needs should open their eyes. I now find myself a widower and in due course can honestly change my profile on a couple of dating sites accordingly.
Smooth1
As has been mentioned earlier it is very nice to have a reasoned discussion about something that means different things to different people. It is perhaps easier for me now to speak of my own situation and reasons for looking for someone else.
My wife passed away last Saturday after a marriage of 32 years. She had bravely fought breast cancer first and then secondary cancer after being given the all-clear for about two months at the beginning of February 2009.
We did it the 'right' way and respecting her wishes did not have sex before marriage. We did come? close to it on quite a few occasions. Our wedding night in Jersey was something of a disappointment. Given the fact that we were both tired etc there was little enthusiasm on her part to participate. Much of our married life has been similar.
Yes, we have had good times but she never had the drive to make the sexual relationship exciting. It wasn't quite as bad as 'the ceiling needs painting' but it was very one-sided. Legend has it that the man turns over after and goes to sleep and snores.....other way round for us! And guess who woke up first in the mornings!
I wouldn't even guess at the number of nights that something was hoped for/planned but she fell asleep first or frequently forgot. Perhaps the guys here will understand how frustrating it can be when this happens....perhaps more than for the ladies. Eventually you get into the situation of 'if she can't bother, why should I'. I could not ever contemplate "darling wake up I want to have the sex/make love you promised me". And so the rift gets deeper.
We tried swinging in the late 80's and 90's. Madame got little out of it and I think she went along for me. Sorry if this is dragging a bit but I think it would help to explain how a partner in a marriage becomes frustrated, lonely and even depressed.
After numerous talk-outs we were probably down to the last ditch attempt. The cancer was diagnosed in Aug 2007. We knew that things would not get any better now and whilst it may have been easy to leave, I would not do so when she needed me the most.
As the disease grew, physical contact between us became less and less. The chemo and radio therapy killed off the very little interest that she had. I don't know how they bottled their emotions and needs up years ago but its something that is almost impossible to do now. My lonliness and depression grew...almost total strangers in the same bed, inches apart. Madame suggested and encouraged me to find someone for company and more if necessary. Perhaps I was lucky in that I found a lady in a similar position quickly on IE and we had a hot friendship more than an affair.
The upshot of all this is that there are people with genuine reasons and needs that seek what is essentially an illicit affair due to their circumstances....not just looking for a bit on the side! I completely agree that to go behind your partner's back is not good and any person who fails to understand that their partner has genuine needs should open their eyes. I now find myself a widower and in due course can honestly change my profile on a couple of dating sites accordingly.
Smooth1
I have used IE twice when circumstances were different to the ones at the moment.
Yes, very pricey at £140 for a month plus amazing free offer of two extra weeks for the same price!!!!!! Yes, it did work for me the first time. I met a very genuine lady and we had a hot friendship...not so much an affair. The second time about a year later was a waste of time. Its the usual thing that you don't get replies to messages. When your membership expires you will start receiving messages from people way outside of the area and age group that you are looking for. You can almost bet that every one of these will have received on-line gifts to make them more attractive and persuade you to part with your money. You cannot of course open any messages without rejoining. On top of that you will receive messages to your inbox with no indication that the sender has even looked at your profile. Yes, it works.......if you're lucky.
Smooth1
Yes, very pricey at £140 for a month plus amazing free offer of two extra weeks for the same price!!!!!! Yes, it did work for me the first time. I met a very genuine lady and we had a hot friendship...not so much an affair. The second time about a year later was a waste of time. Its the usual thing that you don't get replies to messages. When your membership expires you will start receiving messages from people way outside of the area and age group that you are looking for. You can almost bet that every one of these will have received on-line gifts to make them more attractive and persuade you to part with your money. You cannot of course open any messages without rejoining. On top of that you will receive messages to your inbox with no indication that the sender has even looked at your profile. Yes, it works.......if you're lucky.
Smooth1
It is with the greatest regret that I report the passing of Madame Smooth2 (Maddy) early yesterday morning after a four year battle against what started out as breast cancer and returned as secondary cancer two months after the 'all clear' in Feb 2010.
We had not played for some four and a half years but still kept an interest in the Cafe forum in particular, with me typing what she wanted to say in some.
She is now out of pain and will be desperately missed by all of the family.
Smooth1
We had not played for some four and a half years but still kept an interest in the Cafe forum in particular, with me typing what she wanted to say in some.
She is now out of pain and will be desperately missed by all of the family.
Smooth1
Don't particularly like him but he's been around a long time. Like all the comedy masters, timing is the key and KD certainly has it. Our greats are Tommy Cooper and the late Bob Monkhouse who we did see in Porthcawl years ago. If someone can make you laugh without saying anything they are on their way.
Smooth1
Smooth1
There are loads doing the rounds. Two recent ones are an e-mail claiming to be from the Inland Revenue saying that you are due a refund on tax paid. Please provide details!!!!!
And a phone call claiming to be from BT or telephone provider saying that they have the power to cut you off immediately if outstanding balance of £XX is not paid. You try to ring back and find that you can't. This is because the caller is expecting you to do this and has not terminated the incoming call. They call back a few minutes later to say "there you are, I told you so". Some may get caught by it.
Smooth2
And a phone call claiming to be from BT or telephone provider saying that they have the power to cut you off immediately if outstanding balance of £XX is not paid. You try to ring back and find that you can't. This is because the caller is expecting you to do this and has not terminated the incoming call. They call back a few minutes later to say "there you are, I told you so". Some may get caught by it.
Smooth2
As has been already said, swinging is not a cure for cracks already present. Our swinging adventures were largely for my benefit. There was very little enthusiasm from madame. Her lack of interest regarding sex has been with us in all of our 32 yeras together. It's the only bone of contention that we have had since the Wedding Night.
It did give me the opportunity to meet and enjoy more sexually motivated women and have wonderful times. It really was a case of the grass on the other side being greener. Madame got very little out of it. What has been a lack-lustre marriage in terms of sex now continues with the last 4 years being spent trying to nurse her back from the effects of breast cancer and seemingly not succeeding. Seems that someone up there wants to continue to punish us. God alone knows why!
Smooth2
It did give me the opportunity to meet and enjoy more sexually motivated women and have wonderful times. It really was a case of the grass on the other side being greener. Madame got very little out of it. What has been a lack-lustre marriage in terms of sex now continues with the last 4 years being spent trying to nurse her back from the effects of breast cancer and seemingly not succeeding. Seems that someone up there wants to continue to punish us. God alone knows why!
Smooth2
Hi,
Could not agree more with your sentiments. You don't need to be told that they have a BMW and you know you are going to turn up in your Corsa or whatever. You get in touch, you yalk over the phone, meet and if everyone is comfortable move on to the next stage.
We would have steered well clear of people like that. Will they be forcing on you how much they earn next? Even if you do click there will be no pleasure in an encounter if you have it in your mind that we REALLY can't afford this or equally that we can't justify this expense for one night that may not turn out as all it was hoped to be.
The flashing of an unnecessary amount of money might be a cover-up for insecurity or inadequacy of some sort. Leave 'em alone!!!!! There are better people around.
Smooth2
Could not agree more with your sentiments. You don't need to be told that they have a BMW and you know you are going to turn up in your Corsa or whatever. You get in touch, you yalk over the phone, meet and if everyone is comfortable move on to the next stage.
We would have steered well clear of people like that. Will they be forcing on you how much they earn next? Even if you do click there will be no pleasure in an encounter if you have it in your mind that we REALLY can't afford this or equally that we can't justify this expense for one night that may not turn out as all it was hoped to be.
The flashing of an unnecessary amount of money might be a cover-up for insecurity or inadequacy of some sort. Leave 'em alone!!!!! There are better people around.
Smooth2
Blimey Tweek thats quite a creative mind you have there!!! Long may you reign!!
I have no interest in soaps whatsoever and feel that waht appears to be constant antagonism betwwen characters shown on trailers has lead many people to think that this sort of anger display is normal. Anyway back to the thread and trying to be objective.
IF there was a swinging storyline and Mr A was seen getting into bed with Mrs B that will probably give the wrong impression to kids who watch it. They will regard it as normal. Not very PC or BBC!!!! Now if they were brave enough to come up with a fully adult version called perhaps 'Adults behaving badly' with some sex, nudity and laughter, I might be persuaded to watch it. Perhaps there's a job waiting for you at the BBC or alternatively SH members might write a few lines each to make a suitable story line.
Smooth1 of 2
I have no interest in soaps whatsoever and feel that waht appears to be constant antagonism betwwen characters shown on trailers has lead many people to think that this sort of anger display is normal. Anyway back to the thread and trying to be objective.
IF there was a swinging storyline and Mr A was seen getting into bed with Mrs B that will probably give the wrong impression to kids who watch it. They will regard it as normal. Not very PC or BBC!!!! Now if they were brave enough to come up with a fully adult version called perhaps 'Adults behaving badly' with some sex, nudity and laughter, I might be persuaded to watch it. Perhaps there's a job waiting for you at the BBC or alternatively SH members might write a few lines each to make a suitable story line.
Smooth1 of 2
Well, its all over for another year!!!! Don't think that we have ever felt so underwhelmed by the 'likeability?' of the entries. Actually voted for Sweden and Iceland.
Quite happy that Sweden were leading until halfway or so. Big glitzy show but thought the presenters lost it a bit at the start and the 'turn' that was the interval entertainment.......? Should imagine that TW is more than happy to be free of it now.
Blue gave it everything but it was never a Euro winner and Ireland........????????????
Smooth2
Quite happy that Sweden were leading until halfway or so. Big glitzy show but thought the presenters lost it a bit at the start and the 'turn' that was the interval entertainment.......? Should imagine that TW is more than happy to be free of it now.
Blue gave it everything but it was never a Euro winner and Ireland........????????????
Smooth2
Did anyone bother to watch the Eurovision quarter-final or whatever it was tonight?
Always been avid fans up the last 5 years or so. It started going downhill. We thought Dana International was the only half decent one on tonight and she? didn't get through to the final number. Yes, we know its different cultures and all that but really is that all they can come up with? Don't know if we can stand the excitement of watching it on Saturday. Might do something rivetting like reading the week's TV schedule over and over.
Smooth 2
Always been avid fans up the last 5 years or so. It started going downhill. We thought Dana International was the only half decent one on tonight and she? didn't get through to the final number. Yes, we know its different cultures and all that but really is that all they can come up with? Don't know if we can stand the excitement of watching it on Saturday. Might do something rivetting like reading the week's TV schedule over and over.
Smooth 2
I don't normally get caught in the 'paying more for the wrappings than the Easter egg' line of thought but I thought I would treat Madame Smooth this year and buy a 'big' egg.
A Thorntons 'premium' chocolate one was purchased from ASDA for £10. I was delighted I suppose, when I saw the same egg in Tescos for £15. If ASDA are making a profit at £10 Tescos are doing very nicely thankyou and ripping the customer off. Probably by the end of the day there won't be many left on the shelves and once again Tescos will be exceedingly happy whilst we the consumer have been ripped off in the belief that Tescos claim to be the cheapest!!!!!
I'm on the soapbox now. There has been some controversy over the size of chocolate bars shrinking without a reduction in cost...effectively making it a price increase. Back to Tescos again; Their fantail prawns are a favourite of ours. We have just noticed that the plastic tray now has a divider in the moulding making two compartments....which, you've guessed it, hold less than before. Yet another rip-off that people probably won't notice. 'Every little helps', it certainly does, only its Tescos not the customer.
Smooth2
A Thorntons 'premium' chocolate one was purchased from ASDA for £10. I was delighted I suppose, when I saw the same egg in Tescos for £15. If ASDA are making a profit at £10 Tescos are doing very nicely thankyou and ripping the customer off. Probably by the end of the day there won't be many left on the shelves and once again Tescos will be exceedingly happy whilst we the consumer have been ripped off in the belief that Tescos claim to be the cheapest!!!!!
I'm on the soapbox now. There has been some controversy over the size of chocolate bars shrinking without a reduction in cost...effectively making it a price increase. Back to Tescos again; Their fantail prawns are a favourite of ours. We have just noticed that the plastic tray now has a divider in the moulding making two compartments....which, you've guessed it, hold less than before. Yet another rip-off that people probably won't notice. 'Every little helps', it certainly does, only its Tescos not the customer.
Smooth2
Sad fact of swinger life. Many people seem to forget their ettiquette about replying after someone has bothered to write to them. All replies and especially those from single guys deserve a reply if you are a couple or whatever. We always ask for a polite 'no-thanks' if the recipient is not interested. It usually works but......
Smooth2
Smooth2
Which is the best Pink Panther film for you? For us its 'The Pink Panther' 1963. Peter Sellers as Inspector Jacques Clouseau at his very best before some of the situations in later films were more 'manufactured'. Great performances from the rest of the cast, and Fran Jeffries singing Meglia Stasera, Wow!? Have it as my ringtone now! So reminiscent of that wonderful 60's music. Not forgetting the old boy trying to cross the piazza at the end.
Can't take to Steve Martin as Clousea though!.
Smooth2
Can't take to Steve Martin as Clousea though!.
Smooth2
Quote by dave008
It seems to me that a lot of people tag other people immediately without thought,
i.e the married man out as a single is a cheat and unworthy!
Maybe consider their partner has a disability or illness and they are only human afterall!
Madame Smooth was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2007 whilst we were trying to keep the marriage (perhaps for the final time) together. The chemo and radio treatments all but killed her remaining sex drive. She has made little progress since despite all the attention and love that I and the family can give her. In late 2009 she encouraged me to find someone else for the sex that she was unable to give me. I never hid the fact that I was married or my circumstances. I had an affair for just over a year and have to say that this rescued me from the depths of depression or worse. To do this at this time may sound conceited, self-centred, whatever but until you find yourself in a situation where you become 'strangers' after 30 years you CANNOT understand the emotional need. For me it was not cheating. Condemn me if you will but there must be many people in relationships in a similar position of 'lonliness' and frustration.
Smooth1
Without a doubt 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'. OHMSS. George Lazenby may not have been perfect as Bond and there were a lot of tensions between Diana Rigg and him during the making of it but the film has everything and the one thing lacking in all the others...a serious but very short-lived emotional-romantic attachment. The plot was as good as they get with Telly Savalas as the baddie, the scenery was stunning as was Diana Rigg especially in her riding outfit!!!! John Barry's 'We have all the time in the world' still makes us go goose-pimply every time we hear it.
Whilst Sean Connery, Roger Moore and Timothy Dalton were superb as Bond we vote George Lazenby as the best one. Sorry, can't get into Daniel Craig's Bond.
Smooth2
Whilst Sean Connery, Roger Moore and Timothy Dalton were superb as Bond we vote George Lazenby as the best one. Sorry, can't get into Daniel Craig's Bond.
Smooth2
Yes a very good match.
Speaking as someone coming from Wales but having French connections England were definately better by far. France spent most of their time trying to fend off the English attack and very little on the offensive. Won't be shouting for England but they look set for the top this year.
Smooth2
Speaking as someone coming from Wales but having French connections England were definately better by far. France spent most of their time trying to fend off the English attack and very little on the offensive. Won't be shouting for England but they look set for the top this year.
Smooth2
