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31 Jul 2012

Quote by GregSH
Oh dear, "there are non so blind as those who will not see".
Yes, I concede that opinion poll questions can be written in such a way as to get the answer the setter wants

You may concede that point ... unfortunately it doesn't answer the did your quoted figure of 90% come from ??

Quote by GregSH
No party (I've read all the Labour/Tory manifestos since 1964) declared their intention to sell Britain out to a foreign government - but did it anyway.

What foreign government is this ?? Do you mean this one .....

Quote by GregSH
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And yes, UKIP has the second largest contingent of MEPs in the British section of the EU,

suddenly doesn't sound so foreign this 'government' to which we as a nation contribute ... I do wonder about your definition of the E.U. parliament and commission as a government too

Quote by GregSH
If it doesn't please ask again; unlike the "others" UKIP officials pride themselves on plain answers.

Really?? .... oh good in that case

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
I think you'll find it has more to do with their reliance on wealthy individuals and corporations to fill their coffers … if , for instance; the parties are singing from the european 'hymn sheet' why are we not using the Euro in our shops ??
90% ?? Really ?? the figures I found are somewhat different …
Where do you get the 90% figure ??
What would be the nature of this dictatorship ?? where would it be based ?? who would be the dictator ??? do you perhaps mean an oligarchy ??
Who is threatening our freedoms ?? from where I'm sitting it is OUR government who is trying to curtail my rights not the E.U. … or are the human rights laws and working time directives etc. actually instigated by Westminster and not Brussels/Strasbourg ??
It's the word in bold that kind of speaks volumes … tell us,why do you think it was unsupported ?? why did you struggle with funding ??
Really ?? what font size ?? Why not tell us how many double decker buses they would fill or how high in comparison to the Eiffel tower,football pitches,cricket squares ?? how far would Tolkiens' Lord of the rings stretch ?? or the column space given by xenophobic newspapers ?? What an absolutely meaningless pointless unenlightening made up statistic
Go on show us … last time I made a decision it was me that made it not an illegal foreign government ( which one B.T.W. ?? Zimbabwe ?? Good ole G.W. Bush's ??) Now our Laws may well be to some extent be formulated in Europe but so are theirs ( quid pro quo is the term I believe ) but 80% of 'the way we live' I really don't think so

Oh and B.T.W. the existence of Heaths mandate is irrelevant given the referendum under Wilson ...
you may not of got the result YOU wanted but that too is irrelevant ... see that democracy can just turn round and bite your arse can't it

30 Jul 2012

Quote by GregSH
Ah yes, the infamous "Commission". Perhaps someone here can tell me when we last held an election to decide who sat on it? When did Mr Barrosso, for example, last have his name on the paper at your local polling station? Yet he has much sway and power over this nation, far more than even Dave Cameron.
And yes, UKIP has the second largest contingent of MEPs in the British section of the EU, but they, like all other MEPs, are largely powerless in the EU as it is the Commission which holds the authority and final say.
And yes illegal because it was not Heath's country to do with what he liked, nor any other PM, but ours (the electorate) and our nation was stolen from us and given away when Heath took us in without a mandate (ie, authorisation or permission from the "owners" of GB plc - us, the voters).

Is Barrossos' sway over this country similar to that which he holds over Greece or Germany or France ??
Heaths' mandate was the same as any other P.M.s' Mrs Thatcher for instance when she was "standing up to Europe" and decimating our industry ... their mandate is their election victory

Quote by GregSH
(ie, authorisation or permission from the "owners" of GB plc - us, the voters).

That would be U.K. Plc ... it's the United kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ... the big island is Great Britain ... it's a common mistake ; see team GB at the Olympics such a shame that so many of those 'proud of our nation and it's heritage' don't even know its fucking name

30 Jul 2012

Quote by GregSH
That is because all three so called "main parties" are following the same "hymn sheet" - the one produced by the EU!
That's why there is little difference between them.

I think you'll find it has more to do with their reliance on wealthy individuals and corporations to fill their coffers … if , for instance; the parties are singing from the european 'hymn sheet' why are we not using the Euro in our shops ??

Quote by GregSH
The trouble seems to be in Britain that everyone (90% or so anyway) wants out of the EU but few are prepared to vote for any party but those wanting to stay in! Get real folks, wake up and smell the coffee! Vote for what you want, support the ONLY party offering it, or live in a dictatorship.
Your choice, but when you lose ALL your freedoms in a year or two I can hold my head high and say "I tried to stop this" - what are the rest of you going to do?

90% ?? Really ?? the figures I found are somewhat different …
Where do you get the 90% figure ??
What would be the nature of this dictatorship ?? where would it be based ?? who would be the dictator ??? do you perhaps mean an oligarchy ??
Who is threatening our freedoms ?? from where I'm sitting it is OUR government who is trying to curtail my rights not the E.U. … or are the human rights laws and working time directives etc. actually instigated by Westminster and not Brussels/Strasbourg ??

Quote by GregSH
what are the rest of you going to do?

Well I can't speak for anyone else (but I will anyway) 90% or so of us will be trying to stop you removing the last barrier between us and a rough buggering by the powers that be and their corporate paymasters.

Quote by GregSH
The so called "referendum" of 1975 was a one sided "fixed" fiasco where big business ran the "yes" side with "unlimited" funds while the NO campaign was largely unsupported and finally relied on selling tee shirts and pens to raise funds! I remember it well as I was helping it out as best I could.

It's the word in bold that kind of speaks volumes … tell us,why do you think it was unsupported ?? why did you struggle with funding ??

Quote by GregSH
If we were to type out all the rules, regulations and laws Brussels forces on us on ordinary A4 paper and post them side by side along the M4 it would stretch from London to Bristol,

Really ?? what font size ?? Why not tell us how many double decker buses they would fill or how high in comparison to the Eiffel tower,football pitches,cricket squares ?? how far would Tolkiens' Lord of the rings stretch ?? or the column space given by xenophobic newspapers ?? What an absolutely meaningless pointless unenlightening made up statistic

Quote by GregSH
AND NOW SOME 75 TO 80% of the way we live is decided by a foreign, arguably illegal, government..

Go on show us … last time I made a decision it was me that made it not an illegal foreign government ( which one B.T.W. ?? Zimbabwe ?? Good ole G.W. Bush's ??) Now our Laws may well be to some extent be formulated in Europe but so are theirs ( quid pro quo is the term I believe ) but 80% of 'the way we live' I really don't think so

Quote by GregSH
Since you ask, my thoughts are fairly uncomplicated.

This I do agree with

29 Jul 2012

28 Jul 2012

The reason why French is the official language of the Olympics is ....
Oh and English because it's practical

28 Jul 2012

25 Jul 2012

Quote by Love_n_Lust
:bounce::bounce::bounce:
Less than a week to go..... woohooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
:bounce::bounce::bounce:

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce: til i get to see bustys knicker ;))
I have to wear knickers?!?!?!?!? dunno

dunno

lol
fell free to add mav to any ones to do list,,, xx
xxxxxx
Added wink

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Maverick you cant add yiur self onto yur own to do list ... Thats called being a wanker......... Ok. Maybe you can :wink:4 more sleeps :bounce: drinkies

drinkies

Any feckers want to sugets a pub for friday night meet up?? or shall i just walk the streets ,,,,
do you not look at group thread!!!! lol
Group thread ???????????????????

22 Jul 2012

Things our kids will never know .....
1: what the world outside the cellar is like
2: where their mother is buried

22 Jul 2012

Quote by gulsonroad30664
there has never been a socialist government in britain nor could there have been.

22 Jul 2012

Quote by Too Hot
Will someone please tell me about this socialist party .... the last one I remember was led by Michael Foot and died in the 80's

My better half has more than a passing knowledge of true socialism being a product of the former USSR.
With all due respect to her Too Hot, no she doesn't. What she has experience of is Stalinism. That is not the same thing as Socialism at all. It would be more correct to refer to the economic / political / social system under which she lived as State Capitalist, as demonstrated by the ease with which a free-market system was re-introduced after the collapses of '89-91 when what was essentially an internal market under State control was opened back up to outside economic influences.
If the Soviet Union had been a truly Socialist society the re-introduction of a Capitalist economic system would have required a revolutionary re-organisation of the entire political and economic system. As it was the state machinery including in large part the personnel running it were hardly touched because the system was already ordered top-down by a ruling elite, just like in Capitalist socieities. That's the polar opposite of the way in which a 'true' Socialist state works, ordered from the bottom-up.
So was it the Union of Soviet Stalinist Republics or the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? The reason that change came so easily was evolution and the existance of inherent corruption.
The "model" of Soviet Socialism is almost exactly what is being peddled by the SWP and it has not worked, ever, anywhere in the world. All at does is reduce the 5% of haves to about 0.5% of haves and leave 99.5% reliant on a black economy to survive.
The reason the revolution failed in Russia and it's satellite states was (and this is true of many revolutionary states) that having overthrown the existing regime the people sat back on their laurels and forgot the duty of all populations,they didn't police their government.
The closest thing we have in the world today to a 'socialist' state is Cuba ... flawed in some ways but given it's constant battle against U.S. intervention doing quite well really
I am curious as to how some members of this forum define socialism ... it would appear some at least are confused

22 Jul 2012

Quote by bayboy1664
Will someone please tell me about this socialist party .... the last one I remember was led by Michael Foot and died in the 80's

My better half has more than a passing knowledge of true socialism being a product of the former USSR.
With all due respect to her Too Hot, no she doesn't. What she has experience of is Stalinism. That is not the same thing as Socialism at all. It would be more correct to refer to the economic / political / social system under which she lived as State Capitalist, as demonstrated by the ease with which a free-market system was re-introduced after the collapses of '89-91 when what was essentially an internal market under State control was opened back up to outside economic influences.
If the Soviet Union had been a truly Socialist society the re-introduction of a Capitalist economic system would have required a revolutionary re-organisation of the entire political and economic system. As it was the state machinery including in large part the personnel running it were hardly touched because the system was already ordered top-down by a ruling elite, just like in Capitalist socieities. That's the polar opposite of the way in which a 'true' Socialist state works, ordered from the bottom-up.
ROFL
I see you are one of those who thinks that all socialist nations failed only because they were just not socialist enough. :doh:
ROFLMAO ... and you it would appear are one of those who labour under the illusion that they were socialist in the first place :doh: x2

10 Jul 2012

Will someone please tell me about this socialist party .... the last one I remember was led by Michael Foot and died in the 80's

3 Jul 2012

:shakes head more in sorrow than anger:

2 Jul 2012

The secret is that if you only look at the end they know the score, until then you're just wasting your time

2 Jul 2012

Of course there are differences between the main parties .... they differ in the way they feel the vested interests of the wealthy can best be protected

1 Jul 2012

I think it may be paisley

1 Jul 2012

Quote by gorgeously-yours
Oh go on then we may as well

yaya i dont wanna get conned again lol You doing both night s?
It is entirely possible that we may attend both nights .... BB may even keep the wine consumption down to a level that allows her to stay later than 9:00 on the Saturday ... we shall see

1 Jul 2012

I have recently come to the conclusion that the only reasonable solution for anyone who has a conscience is to vote Tory ......
and to keep doing it until the inevitable revolution starts

26 Jun 2012

I know a secret about football ..... I may tell you all later (hint: it has nothing to do with snipers)

26 Jun 2012

I've always felt that a pipe, extravagant facial topiary, and a large and varied selection of headgear are essentials for any man wishing to appear on cam .... but I may be wrong

26 Jun 2012

Banks fuck it up .... well I never who'd have thought such a thing

26 Jun 2012

Quote by bayboy1664
Just another in a long line of left wing hypocrites whose attitude is do as I say not as I do. Champagne socialists really are the lowest of the low!

In defence of the left ... can I suggest that young Mr Carr is more of an un-aligned that his actions are morally repugnant to anyone with any kind of concept of social responsibility.
HYe was looking a bit pale on 8 out of 10 cats this week,you might even say a little wan ...... I'll let you work the rest out for yourselves

26 Jun 2012

Oh go on then we may as well

11 Jun 2012

Should your paths cross again give her our best wishes

5 Jun 2012

Quote by Lizaleanrob

very funny staggs
would this be one of you and another member of the forum but I'm not sure which is which or who's meant to be who lol

lol

the lyrics are very fitting for some don't you think wink

wink

I suspect Rob that you are VERY mistaken about the amount and content of any contact I may have with other members of this forum .... suffice to say I send and receive very few p.m.s' ... and those not I suspect with the people you imagine
now i never implied or mentioned pm's dunno

dunno

mine was a lighthearted jest at the two singers and a vague resemblance ........but a particular relevance to the song which strangely is no longer relevant blink

blink

there was however an implication that I felt the need to correct .... so I corrected it

21 May 2012

Quote by starlightcouple

Safer to say that I don't know you at all and therefore not assume anything....

oh you can GNV,,,,,you can :thumbup:
Oh go on then give us the benefit of your insight

20 May 2012

Try here ..... best hat shop I've found on't internet
(if anyone knows other better ones please do tell)
My suggestion would be a colonial panama

20 May 2012

Quote by GnV
Now wouldn't it just have been easier to say that in the first place ??
See I wasn't aware of the difference I hadn't done any research I was just aware of the fact that there were pens already available to N.A.S.A. that worked in space ...
I do sometimes wonder what on earth people are trying to prove when responding to me

Damned if you do, damned if you dont.
See Staggs, it's never quite that easy with you. If I had quoted that from the off, you would have only suggested that I was being a show-off.
Always best to let someone with your experience take the heuristic route....
It would seem G that you don't know me anywhere near as well as you think

20 May 2012

Quote by GnV
Sorry to labour the post but....
The generic ballpoint pen is less attractive for use in space...
"Earlier pens leaked or clogged because of incorrect viscosity of the ink, and depended on gravity to deliver the ink to the ball. Depending on gravity caused difficulties with the flow and required that the pen be held nearly vertically. The original Biro pen used capillary action and a piston that pressurised the ink column, solving the ink delivery flow problems. Later Biro pens had a spring that kept pressure on the piston, and still later the Biro pens used just gravity and capillary action"
This from an alternate source:

The original usually is always best.

Now wouldn't it just have been easier to say that in the first place ??
See I wasn't aware of the difference I hadn't done any research I was just aware of the fact that there were pens already available to N.A.S.A. that worked in space ...
I do sometimes wonder what on earth people are trying to prove when responding to me dunno

dunno

20 May 2012

Quote by MidsCouple24
Not followed the trial or indeed a lot of the story but know he has pleaded not guilty
So what is the general opinion so far, is he guilty of the charges as alledged by the state or is he not guilty based on his own views of why he did what he did ?

Guilty as sin and totally hatstand