Staggerlee_BB's Forum Posts

20 May 2012

Quote by GnV
As I understand it a ballpoint pen is not dependent on gravity to function,however when placed upside down gravity may well prevent it from functioning ... in space gravity is not a factor

a ballpoint pen or a non generic biro?
Which are we talking about now?
A standard ballpoint as designed and invented by this man ....

as opposed to say a quill as invented by

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20 May 2012

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Now, you will, I'm sure, have noted that I've stated that I'm sure that was not the intent ... nevertheless I do believe clarification was needed

Perhaps I should have started thus ....

Quote by gulsonroad30664
i wonder what the total cost of unemployment and disability benefits are ? for that matter add the cost of the n.h.s. and all pensions.

I have as I've previously admitted the habit of just skimming through Gulsons posts ....nevertheless
it is a mistake to conflate the two

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19 May 2012

As I understand it a ballpoint pen is not dependent on gravity to function,however when placed upside down gravity may well prevent it from functioning ... in space gravity is not a factor

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19 May 2012

Quote by Staggerlee_BB
Now, you will, I'm sure, have noted that I've stated that I'm sure that was not the intent ... nevertheless I do believe clarification was needed

Quote by Max777
Oh Staggers, it does indeed tell me something, something that I have already alluded to. That you are reading into it what is not there.

So it is open to misinterpretation ?? make your mind up

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19 May 2012

Quote by Max777

I think what they they have said is crystal clear but then again I'm not looking to try and read into it what's not there.

And my point was and is that the statement is open to misinterpretation and should be clarified ... as I said tiny steps
As I explained in equally tiny steps.......in my opinion it is not open to misinterpretation, it's crystal clear.
Oh Max ... does the fact that I apparently misinterpreted the statement not tell you something ???
My point is that in a thread that discusses benefits, where in many cases the validity of those benefits is being questioned to casually and unprompted throw the health budget into the mix also puts that budget under , you will, I'm sure, have noted that I've stated that I'm sure that was not the intent ... nevertheless I do believe clarification was needed

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19 May 2012

Quote by Max777
I think what they they have said is crystal clear but then again I'm not looking to try and read into it what's not there.

And my point was and is that the statement is open to misinterpretation and should be clarified ... as I said tiny steps

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19 May 2012

Quote by Geordiecpl2001
We submitted our energy figures and got a quote from these people which indicated that the "Co-operative Energy supply" had won the reverse auction and we could save about £166 per year on dual fuel if we swapped to them from British Gas. Price fixed to July 13.
I did a search on a price comparison webite and found I could save as much as that by going with someone else and get £15 cashback for doing it, again price fixed to July 13.
Did some more searching and found EDF would do as good a deal with the price fixed to Sept 13 and various other incentives, so have switched to them.
So maybe this group action spurred other companies into doing good deals, I don't know, but it prodded me to actually change (albeit not to them) instead of staying with BG as I have always been.
John

The £128 saving is from EDF ... but the big switch were the ones that told me about it

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19 May 2012

Quote by GnV
A normal biro works in space .... no special pens required

Are you referring to the generic 'biro' or the specific?
Generic .... God forbid I should be accused of advertising

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19 May 2012

I have nothing to do and am a little bored ... I shall explain
From here .....http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/403307.html

Quote by essex34m
My feeling is that prime ministers don't warrant a state funeral. Only the existing monarch does.

Remind me, as I'm getting a bit old in the tooth. Didn't Churchill warrant a State funeral and didn't the Queen Mother lay in State in Westminster Hall before a public(ish) ceremony?
And what about the amount of money wasted on the very public funeral of the fruitcake Diana, Princess of Wales just to up Bliar's popularity?
Baroness T is in every way deserving of a good send off. AFAIK, even Arfur Scarguts would pay in handsomely to any kind of send off fund if it pre-dates his demise :lol2:
I think you meant HER .... how and where do I contribute to such a fund ??
No, it is very obviously pre-dates HIS demise. He would pay into a send off fund, if it happens before HE pops his clogs.
Look up go on up ...no a bit further ....aaaah there it is
just goes to prove that some people only see what they want to see!
It's not a case of reading what I want to read, I am reading it as he can't give once he has died. therefore pre-dates his demise.
See now if as is suggested Mr S hates Mrs T then surely his preference would be for a funeral that predates HER demise ... do you see ??? the substitution of her for his kind of changes the intent .... pearls before swine

:banghead::banghead: lol

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19 May 2012

Quote by neilinleeds
Signed up. I'll show my arse on the Town Hall steps if this results in anything significant, but I'm willing to put my name to it anyways. Interesting that the Govt has said it will look at energy costs and put pressure on the suppliers to give customers a better deal. I thought the whole point of privatisation and a free market was precisely that in the first place? Odd.

I look forward to seeing the pictures .... average estimated savings £117 my estimated saving £128 (that's annually b.t.w.)And with my limited budget that is significant lol

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19 May 2012

Quote by Max777
I am, I must admit quite disturbed by the apparent desire to conflate the benefits and health budgets

So who's doing that then Staggs?
It was this

Quote by Robert400andKay
If you look a good half to two thirds of expenditure goes on benefits, and health care.

and the fact that no-one saw fit to point out that health care hadn't been mentioned and wasn't what was being discussed, that I thought looked suspiciously like an assertion and acceptance of that assertion that the health and benefits budgets were indeed the same thing ... now I'm sure this wasn't the intent of the statement but I'm also sure that there are certain things that NEED to be made clear .... it is the nature of the system that public opinion is changed by tiny steps,one should be careful not to tread that path,even by accident

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19 May 2012

Can I suggest this ....

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19 May 2012

I am, I must admit quite disturbed by the apparent desire to conflate the benefits and health budgets

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19 May 2012

Quote by Lizaleanrob

very funny staggs
would this be one of you and another member of the forum but I'm not sure which is which or who's meant to be who lol

the lyrics are very fitting for some don't you think wink

I suspect Rob that you are VERY mistaken about the amount and content of any contact I may have with other members of this forum .... suffice to say I send and receive very few p.m.s' ... and those not I suspect with the people you imagine

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19 May 2012

I suspect that should the Met choose to apply themselves they'll find it quite easy to build a case .....Ms Brookes,Darth Murdoch et al have made one crucial mistake,they believe that they are/were untouchable

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19 May 2012

Quote by Rogue_trader
Take the millions of dollars the USA (NASA) spent in the early days of space travel developing a pen that could write in the weightless atmosphere created in spacecraft, huge funds and times went into the research and development of such a pen and they did finally achieve thier goal, a pen that could pump ink and write in a weightless environment, fantastic, and they proudly announced thier achievement to the world, and the Russian space agency quickly replied with
We use a Pencil

Total urban myth.
NASA Astronauts used pencils just like the Russian Cosmonauts, however the tips of graphite would break off and float around in zero g...imagine that getting in the circuitry...not good.
So NASA developed the "space pen" a pressurised, hermetically sealed, thixotropic liquid ink delivery system, Russian promptly bough 100 units to replace their pencils and both space agencies adopted the technology.
NASA researched and developed it, Russia bought it.
A normal biro works in space .... no special pens required

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16 May 2012

Quote by Lizaleanrob

i think you have large percentage mistaken with majority staggs if you want my honest opinion

And I have unfortunately got to ask you to furnish us with some figures to substantiate that
i think you will find 37% a large enough percentage of incapacity claimants who have been deemed fit for work
this is of course with out the suddenly got well,s :wink:
Three questions ...
1: Where does this figure come from
2: what part of that 37% is accounted for by rule changes in the introduction of a new benefit
3: what part of that 37% can be put down to the widely acknowledged box ticking incompetence of Atos

Quote by starlightcouple

And I have unfortunately got to ask you to furnish us with some figures to substantiate that

when i ask for those you say you dont give a ???? lol

No I think you'll find that I had already said that my evidence was anecdotal and I couldn't offer any further proof ... what I said was that I didn't give a shit whether or not you believed me

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16 May 2012

Quote by Lizaleanrob
more stuff

i very much doubt that this or the banks cases can be championed to mr average the tax payer
the reason: simple!! far to much pisss taking a willing-ness to hand out easily made tax payers coppers to rescue tax avoiding banks and a soft touch benefit system. I think that there are many in need who could get more or even the REAL NEEDY getting what they deserve would be nice aye wink

They are Rob two entirely different and separate things trying to conflate them is nonsense.
The reason why the case of benefits claimants is such a hard sell is a prolonged pernicious and persistent campaign by the media and those in power to brand all claimants unworthy and worthless, it diverts attention from their own thievery you see.
Given that you appear to share the view that the majority of benefits claimants are trying to defraud us all, I do wonder who you would class as in need or God forbid in 'REAL NEED'
i think you have large percentage mistaken with majority staggs if you want my honest opinion
:wink:
And I have unfortunately got to ask you to furnish us with some figures to substantiate that

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16 May 2012

Quote by Bluefish2009
Oh for Gods sake :banghead::banghead::banghead:
We all know she's guilty we all know Darth Murdoch and Luke are guilty any reasonable rational person looking at the evidence thus far knows that they're all morally bankrupt,we all know that they'll get away with a slap on the wrist and a short period of closer scrutiny ... but we are a nation in thrall to wealth and the power it bestows and probably don't deserve any better

Like every one else in this country they are of coarse Innocent, until proven guilty. I would have thought you above all would not condone this kind of trial by media malarkey.
I firmly believe that people should expect to be treated as they treat others,so .... fuck them they are guilty hang them all now

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16 May 2012

The news of the world did hack Milly Dowlers phone messages .... the error was in the accusation that they deleted them

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16 May 2012

Quote by Funlovers2009
Lee got a new job today!! Congratulations babe!!
:bounce:

Tell him to be careful ... they make you work at them there jobs ... the bastards

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16 May 2012

Oh for Gods sake

:banghead::banghead::banghead:
We all know she's guilty we all know Darth Murdoch and Luke are guilty any reasonable rational person looking at the evidence thus far knows that they're all morally bankrupt,we all know that they'll get away with a slap on the wrist and a short period of closer scrutiny ... but we are a nation in thrall to wealth and the power it bestows and probably don't deserve any better

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16 May 2012

Quote by Lizaleanrob
more stuff

i very much doubt that this or the banks cases can be championed to mr average the tax payer
the reason: simple!! far to much pisss taking a willing-ness to hand out easily made tax payers coppers to rescue tax avoiding banks and a soft touch benefit system. I think that there are many in need who could get more or even the REAL NEEDY getting what they deserve would be nice aye wink

They are Rob two entirely different and separate things trying to conflate them is nonsense.
The reason why the case of benefits claimants is such a hard sell is a prolonged pernicious and persistent campaign by the media and those in power to brand all claimants unworthy and worthless, it diverts attention from their own thievery you see.
Given that you appear to share the view that the majority of benefits claimants are trying to defraud us all, I do wonder who you would class as in need or God forbid in 'REAL NEED'

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15 May 2012

Quote by Cubes
OMG !!! :shock:
I`ve just received a copy of a letter sent to my GP from the consultants at St Thomas`...
The consultant described me as a "pleasant 50 year old gentleman" OMG OMG !!
Spose I`ll just pull up me armchair and put me slippers on and settle down with me pipe !!
Is this the end ? Can I ever recover any credibility ?

Recover ???
Pleasant ???
:giggle: bolt

NB: If you're looking for decent slippers I can personally recommend the high-sided brown cord ones from BHS. ;)
Marks and Spencers do a nice line in cardigans I hear,and if you struggle to find that pipe (they're so difficult to find nowadays) I may have a spare

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15 May 2012

Quote by Lizaleanrob
stuff

there are many genuine claimants staggs I'm sure we would all agree,
but are you saying there is a not a considerable dole culture of those that don't wish to work?
or the fact that disability allowance had become a soft touch offering greater rewards than job seekers allowance
you must be an easy touch for those African princes who's millions are trapped abroad and need a trusting person to help recover it wink

The point is Rob that you and many others only see and acknowledge that small number of claimants who are to all intents and purposes unemployable (yes I do admit there are some). This concentration on a small number of those on benefits is the reason why the prevalent opinion in the press and at large is that the unemployed are scum , the truth is that the majority of those unemployed or claiming disability allowance have little or no choice in the concentration on a small minority allows government to get away with prosecuting punitive policies upon benefits claimants whilst lining the pockets of the already wealthy ... it discourages dissent, it denies the unemployed the ability to make their voice heard.
DWP figures put long term unemployment at million and estimate job vacancies at 476,000 this would suggest that approx. 80% of those unemployed are through no fault of their own going to remain so.

An interesting and ignored point about disability living allowance is that you can claim it if you're working (it is not an unemployment benefit)and is worth UP TO the princely sum of a week.

Employment support allowance Which is an 'unemployment' benefit can reach the outrageous sum of

So Rob tell me more about these millions of scroungers living in the lap of luxury at my 've mentioned before your unique perspective on the unemployed and benefits claimants and how it may be that you have a particularly jaded view of them,I would suggest that you look a little bit beyond those at whom you are pointed.

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15 May 2012

Quote by flower411
OMG !!! :shock:
I`ve just received a copy of a letter sent to my GP from the consultants at St Thomas`...
The consultant described me as a "pleasant 50 year old gentleman" OMG OMG !!
Spose I`ll just pull up me armchair and put me slippers on and settle down with me pipe !!
Is this the end ? Can I ever recover any credibility ?

Recover ???

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15 May 2012

Quote by Lizaleanrob
This has little or nothing to do with 'austerity' measures and is just the natural result and continuation of the persecution and branding of all benefits claimants as scrounging scum ... another nail in the coffin of the welfare state

you are indeed totaly wrong again rolleyes

i think you will find the problem is those that want to work normally have the real disability's while others abuse the system because they do not wish to work!!
And I would suggest that you've just gone a long way towards proving my point .... sweeping generalizations about benefits claimants, well I never
of course your arument is well backed up by the constant reports and interviews with claimants who claim they can not afford to go to work as not many jobs pay 50k a year dunno

No it's backed up by the FACT that the vast majority of claimants are genuine ... but of course no-one's interested in that,it doesn't fit the agenda does it

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15 May 2012

Quote by Lizaleanrob
This has little or nothing to do with 'austerity' measures and is just the natural result and continuation of the persecution and branding of all benefits claimants as scrounging scum ... another nail in the coffin of the welfare state

you are indeed totaly wrong again rolleyes

i think you will find the problem is those that want to work normally have the real disability's while others abuse the system because they do not wish to work!!
And I would suggest that you've just gone a long way towards proving my point .... sweeping generalizations about benefits claimants, well I never

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14 May 2012

Quote by Gee_Wizz
Do the sensible thing ... get rid of the bloody thing altogether ( I will one day follow my own advice)

You'll wish you hadn't if you have an accident on your own some time! what's wrong with having a phone to hand?
It's not the ability to phone others that's the problem but their opportunity to phone you .... I hate phones almost as much as many of the people on the other end of them

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14 May 2012

Quote by bayboy1664
It depends upon who you meet really as infection rates vary wildly depending upon who a person is.

True... it depends upon whether or not they have H.I.V.

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