Quote by yin yang:doh:
And I thought looking at the avitar you were a left tit?
Steve, best you ask Mars, he`ll be on later
Venusxxx
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I`ll bite the bullet and share a PM I sent a good friend.
Today seems like a good day
Venusxxx
Well, I know that isn`t the reason I originally joined this site, but I can`t deny that the open-mindedness and acceptance from most hasn`t taken off for me in a surprisingly huge way. I have done much soul-searching since I joined, but unlike many others, it hasn`t been of the `why am I here, should I be here` type, but more of the `what else is around the corner` type.
I know where my issues stemmed from, I also know how this effects me, what behaviours of mine are directly linked to the treatment I received in the past, and how I am likely to react to certain treatments in the present. There really isn`t much left for me to learn on that score, simply things to work on.
I also know that by nature I am an extrovert, that if I wasn`t, the social disasters of my youth probably wouldn`t hit me as hard as it did. I can honestly say that in here (or more accurately at the munches) I am for the first time able to explore my freedom to be myself with others...........and it rocks! :bounce:
It`s that freedom which turned me into the loud tart I was at the NW munch, who was able to grab a poor helpless guy from ----- called ----- and give him a huge snog ;) ,and also to make a complete turd of myself on the Karaoke! Did I have self-recriminations the next day? Hell yes! But these doubts didn`t outweigh the fun I had with it! I will probably calm down a little when I`ve stopped exploring this new turn of life, I`m simply making up for lost time.
I`m not sure people know on here just how valuable this has been for me. At 32 years old I`m still discovering who I am in relation to others, that has been a huge area of my life I have missed out on, and I`ve often thought of posting as much, but there is still a little bit of me who holds back. I`ve posted thankyou`s before, but they have been in the face of it, still rather restrained. .
Maybe one day ;)
Anyway, that`s probably more of a reply than you expected from this soppy loud tart, so I`ll shut up now!
Maybe one day ;)
Today seems like a good day
Venusxxx
Quote by Mark
Nice post. Made me smile a few times anyhoo.
I'm afraid I take a dim view of this kind of post venus, as it only serves to inflame some of the more tender sensibilities on here.
How about present company excluded (as always)
Ok, my 16 year old has just walked through the door WITH NO EYEBROWS :shock:
I think I might go have my nervous breakdown now..............
Venusxxx
and what they do say.
Hi. Being as crude as I am, I guess it was appropriate that someone should ask me to pm you and ask that you change your avatar. Not that I don't appreciate the bare pussy, but....we all want the forum to feel comfortable for people not as open about sex as we are, so those sort of pics should be confined to the passworded room.
Thankyou for your PM requesting I remove my Avatar, however, despite the picture being of a Strawberry on a shaven pussy, this avatar is a photo from the world-renowned photographer, Pedro Marques Pereira of Portugal. As such it doesn`t fall foul of the PG 13 guidelines you see; this is prejudice and if I allow myself to compromise my values of equality, have I not allowed prejudice into my life. If I accept it from others, what is to stop me from allowing it to others?
Eh? Get over it! It`s a picture of a muff! People don`t like it! It`s a PG 13 site. I don`t give a flying fuck if it`s art, I don`t want a debate about how ambigious PG 13 is, don`t make this into something it`s not.
What we say.......
Ok, we understand where you are coming from, how about you remove it whilst we put it up for discussion, This is a free speech site after all
Enter 20 pages of debate *twitch*
Where did my post go?!!
Dear Member, if you managed to prise your fingers off the keyboard long enough to root around, instead of publically spamming every damn catagory there is accusing us of abiturarily deleting your posts, you might have noticed the drop down box which is a tool to enable you to view posts from two weeks, or two months ago. I hope you feel like a tit now, because you certainly behave like one.
What we do say
Dear Member, your post is still there, it`s just not viewable unless you click on the little drop down box. I hope this helps.
Where did my post go?! It would be nice if someone could be bothered to answer!
Dear member, I`m sorry it took us an entire SEVEN FUCKING MINUTES TO GET BACK TO YOU. We stupidly forgot that you are the only member here, and that the world revolves around YOU. How damn inconsiderate of us to volunteer to run this free site, and not to drop the job/children/housework to come running. Please, please forgive us. I don`t think I could bear it if you thought any less of us. :cry:
What we do say
Dear Member,
I`m sorry we took so long to sort this out. The team here can be very stretched at times, and do try to answer queries as soon as possible. Many of us have responsibilties outside of the board. I hope you can understand this.
I know where you live.............
And we know your IP address, your local server, can work with the police and your telephone company.
Bring it on freak.
What we actually say.......
And we know your IP address, your local server, can work with the police and your telephone company.
Bring it on freak.
And finally........
I'm tempted to add a little political commentary here. Mainly I want to say bye and good luck pal.Y'all... don't be afraid to support those you love. To those of you here who have shown me that courage, thank you from the bottom of my heart. To those who walk away in silence, shame on you.
Oh do fuck off. This is old and tired. It`s called `not feeding the troll`. If you don`t like the fact you are not getting the attention you like for your dissent sowing posts then don`t post them. The silence is telling you something. We are oh so very bored now. Your constant need to surround yourself with your persecution complex is wearing thin, we answered all your concerns, move on. Take up knitting, pottery, anything. This site would be much richer for it.
Life is too short for me to have to deal with your sanctamonious bullshit on a daily basis. It`s getting to the point where I`d rather drive hot nails through my eyeballs. So I`m sure you`ll excuse me whilst I collect some information for one of our new members, which, correct me if I am wrong, is what we are all here for.
What we actually say...
Nothing.
Venusxxx
Hi. Being as crude as I am, I guess it was appropriate that someone should ask me to pm you and ask that you change your avatar. Not that I don't appreciate the bare pussy, but....we all want the forum to feel comfortable for people not as open about sex as we are, so those sort of pics should be confined to the passworded room.
Thankyou for your PM requesting I remove my Avatar, however, despite the picture being of a Strawberry on a shaven pussy, this avatar is a photo from the world-renowned photographer, Pedro Marques Pereira of Portugal. As such it doesn`t fall foul of the PG 13 guidelines you see; this is prejudice and if I allow myself to compromise my values of equality, have I not allowed prejudice into my life. If I accept it from others, what is to stop me from allowing it to others?
Eh? Get over it! It`s a picture of a muff! People don`t like it! It`s a PG 13 site. I don`t give a flying fuck if it`s art, I don`t want a debate about how ambigious PG 13 is, don`t make this into something it`s not.
What we say.......
Ok, we understand where you are coming from, how about you remove it whilst we put it up for discussion, This is a free speech site after all
Enter 20 pages of debate *twitch*
Where did my post go?!!
Dear Member, if you managed to prise your fingers off the keyboard long enough to root around, instead of publically spamming every damn catagory there is accusing us of abiturarily deleting your posts, you might have noticed the drop down box which is a tool to enable you to view posts from two weeks, or two months ago. I hope you feel like a tit now, because you certainly behave like one.
What we do say
Dear Member, your post is still there, it`s just not viewable unless you click on the little drop down box. I hope this helps.
Where did my post go?! It would be nice if someone could be bothered to answer!
Dear member, I`m sorry it took us an entire SEVEN FUCKING MINUTES TO GET BACK TO YOU. We stupidly forgot that you are the only member here, and that the world revolves around YOU. How damn inconsiderate of us to volunteer to run this free site, and not to drop the job/children/housework to come running. Please, please forgive us. I don`t think I could bear it if you thought any less of us. :cry:
What we do say
Dear Member,
I`m sorry we took so long to sort this out. The team here can be very stretched at times, and do try to answer queries as soon as possible. Many of us have responsibilties outside of the board. I hope you can understand this.
I know where you live.............
And we know your IP address, your local server, can work with the police and your telephone company.
Bring it on freak.
What we actually say.......
And we know your IP address, your local server, can work with the police and your telephone company.
Bring it on freak.
And finally........
I'm tempted to add a little political commentary here. Mainly I want to say bye and good luck pal.Y'all... don't be afraid to support those you love. To those of you here who have shown me that courage, thank you from the bottom of my heart. To those who walk away in silence, shame on you.
Oh do fuck off. This is old and tired. It`s called `not feeding the troll`. If you don`t like the fact you are not getting the attention you like for your dissent sowing posts then don`t post them. The silence is telling you something. We are oh so very bored now. Your constant need to surround yourself with your persecution complex is wearing thin, we answered all your concerns, move on. Take up knitting, pottery, anything. This site would be much richer for it.
Life is too short for me to have to deal with your sanctamonious bullshit on a daily basis. It`s getting to the point where I`d rather drive hot nails through my eyeballs. So I`m sure you`ll excuse me whilst I collect some information for one of our new members, which, correct me if I am wrong, is what we are all here for.
What we actually say...
Nothing.
Venusxxx
Quote by nealfiona
Needless to say since we changed our add the number of replies we get has dwindled
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We rarely get responses either, those we do recieve are from single Bi-men who we are not advertising for. Another couple on here have advertised for Single bi men as well as couples, they have had lots of replies.
Not that we can afford any meets at the moment anyway, we are barely keeping up with the munches!
Venusxxx (still not doing the housework, but who is dressed and has opened the curtains)
I once, on another site, registered another username in order to discuss an issue I was having. I`d never met anyone there in real life, yet my existing username was so well established, I didn`t want said issue to be connected with that name. In time, when I gained confidence, I came clean, but at the time, it was the way I needed to approach it.
Perhaps there has been no condemnation, but I had a feeling that this thread was taking a less desirable turn. Apologies if I misread that
Venusxxx
Perhaps there has been no condemnation, but I had a feeling that this thread was taking a less desirable turn. Apologies if I misread that
Venusxxx
Quote by musketeer
Just chat to Mars (who is also following this thread very closely) and we both have the same feeling about one common reaction offered here. This is just an observation, and not at all a gripe as the feeling offered is not at all directed at bi guys, and is a personal and therefore very valid one.
It`s the `feeling sick at the thought` comments. Reading stuff like that is kind of off-putting, and probably doesn`t help the bi-curious men openly embrace the idea. Venusxxx
This is an open forum and most interesting for that, so I guess if someone is "sick at the thought" of something it's proper to say so. From my earlier post it would be ridiculous to say I was 100% straight, but I am "sick at the thought" of a number of generally gay activities, shall I name some. Buggery, Rimming, Fisting, kissing a man, these things I KNOW make me feel so uncomfortable as to validate the idea of being "sick at the thought".
About blow jobs I just choose to decline, I'm not "sick at the thought", and about masturbation I have shown no objection to it on the few occasions the opportunity has passed my way in recent years.
We should all remember that sexuality is a rainbow and we all occupy different parts, something for everyone, someone for everyone.
Now I hope most people here know me well enough to know that I am one of the last people who would want to seriously criticise anyone for thier opinion (although I have done in the heat of the moment). I hate conflict, and if I do see a daft post, I will normally try to react with a tongue in cheek remark. I was, in this case, trying to be very careful not to condemn others here for thier reaction, and was genuinely interested as to whether it left others, who are newly exploring the idea of same sex fun, with the same reaction. I`m not interested in `whose fault` this reaction is. I just think it would be valuable to Mars` to hear more opinions on his and perhaps other`s feelings upon gaining confidence.
Is it the poster or reader`s diplomacy/reaction which needs changing? Beats the shit of of me! Should our anonymous friend be respected for posting anon, his `coming out` being his own personal journey when he is ready, or is it a reflection on some of the attitudes here? To be honest, I hadn`t really given it a great deal of thought when I read his post..
I just..........
Awww sod it, I didn`t do it, therefore I`m not...
You didn`t see me right?!
Venusxxx
Just chat to Mars (who is also following this thread very closely) and we both have the same feeling about one common reaction offered here. This is just an observation, and not at all a gripe as the feeling offered is not at all directed at bi guys, and is a personal and therefore very valid one.
It`s the `feeling sick at the thought` comments. Reading stuff like that is kind of off-putting, and probably doesn`t help the bi-curious men openly embrace the idea. Mars said that it makes him feel a little worried that people might be sickened by him when they consider that this is an interest of his. Of course it was made very clear by the posters that they do not have a problem with Bi guys, and kudos to them, they don`t need to take responsibilty for other people`s confidence. It`s simply an observation that this is another thing that Mars will have to get past.
Do any other curious guys feel like this?
Venusxxx
It`s the `feeling sick at the thought` comments. Reading stuff like that is kind of off-putting, and probably doesn`t help the bi-curious men openly embrace the idea. Mars said that it makes him feel a little worried that people might be sickened by him when they consider that this is an interest of his. Of course it was made very clear by the posters that they do not have a problem with Bi guys, and kudos to them
, they don`t need to take responsibilty for other people`s confidence. It`s simply an observation that this is another thing that Mars will have to get past.Do any other curious guys feel like this?
Venusxxx
