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duncanlondon
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 47
UK

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I think the expression bi has become a convenience category. unlike the box of hetero or gay, it is a resealable packet.
If you live in a monogamous society, then adultery in its many forms is not meant to be part of it.
probably have England singing jerusalem as they run around in their jockstraps.
the scots could saw down the goal post and start tossing the caber, to Donald Where's yer Trousers.
the welsh can sing, so a fine rendering of Men of Harlech.
The Irish could dig up the pitch to the Sounds of Danny Boy.
when these single male threads come along i am usually left with the feeling that the plaintives, despite their protestations and reasons, were really more dissapointed about not getting enough offers from single males.
I sort of got that feeling. But hey its not rocket science so doesn't really need a lot of examination, really.
But it is in recognition of people's desire to cheat that swinging was invented right? Now that is a more worthy debating point.
maybe maybe to all that. are you getting more curious about it. hmmmm.... you might find yourself coming under that dark beast.
there's all sorts including the bunny boilers. but i am not interested in them. they range from bored lonely to sex workers to nutters. some are registered on this site and the others, so maybe you have already met them, but they played cleverly as swingers?
most use the site because its free membership and they are 'ordinary' women, with family, jobs and conventional lifestyles. you could say its all extremely boring really.
anyway its not something i want to advocate as being a 'good' thing to do, it isn't. it just happens to provide a certain type of sexual activity for those wanting to do it. in some cases the sex is exceptionally fierce and tasty.
i have not had the same kind of sex in a swinging encounter, they are quite different.
we are ruled by that dark beast i was talking about. one day it might want you to work a bit exrta to feed it. so watch out.
Affairs are dodgy in the hands of fools. But the women practising on the sites are just very good at it. And they have the power.
The people involved are simply looking for the kind of sex you get with your friend.
The idea that its all a disaster planned and waiting to occur is not necessarily so. many of the women on such sites get free membership and remain for years. presumably carrying on a series of affairs with great success.
often even if they are caught out, they still return to do it again, and remain with their partners. so it does not always end in disaster. which is why it perpetuates itself.
its a sleazy way of having a certain juicy type of sex. but that's what the people who do it live for.
But as far as you are concerned,so far, its been a recipe for occasional, intense gratuitous, sex.
Its difficult to justify most of the more extraneous adult sexual adventures and whatever one says usually ends up sounding like a lame excuse.
With swinging there is the make believe that its okay because there's this general agreement between adults to be open and honest about what suits them. In fact that is often contained within a set of complex secrecies. But in general one wouldn't swing if one was an upstanding member of the community. In theory it shouldn't exist, or even reach a level of acceptable practice. However it does, clearly.
Using a dating site for adultery involves more secrecy and deceit. Its a factor that your partner doesn't know, so it's redundant to bemoan the lack of integrity in people doing it.
On its discovery there is an ironic difference between the two. Adulterers tend to be seen in a familiar light. Swingers can come off worse in terms of blame and responsibility, their reasons and justifications being less likely to be accepted, as they are not so easily understood. Its just that when the cookie crumbles, all the belief you have invested in, does not come to your aid quite so readily.
People will swing, commit adultery and , because its the dark beast of sex, that lurks in us all. You pick the level you feel comfortable with, but you might possibly not control it as well as you think.
But a lot of finding blame is simply passing the buck. And the buck tends to stop at the nonces. So anyone downscale can say, well at least................
Yes you are right Lost that's exactly what it is.
There are opportunists, victims and predators.
Well that's exactly the wrong way to see it. You are paying for another level of opportunity, not for sex.
i use illicitencounters and do okay. although i don't know how well it works in your part of the country.
register on the site but don't pay too soon. there are several goldiggers and professionals who will message you early on.
also there are a few who i think work on a commission. they keep mailing you, but when you do make contact they act like depressed mental cases and it really puts you off.
then there's the real sad lonely cases, which unfortunately are not really in charge of their own faculties.
so wait a few weeks and observe the people who check your profile and keep reading their profiles. Some of those may be potential partners. But most of the contacts you make will have to be initiated by you. make an effort to chat and find out about them. There are some hot ladies on the site and they are up for it.
I am using it this month and have a few possibles already. usually I find someone suitable and we have a fling for as long as it lasts. Sometimes a few weeks or months.
It is pricey, but its a deffo genuine site.
Women love wankikng. its just that there's a time and a place for it where they are concerned.
It seems to be an expression which is non committal but is vicariously employed because we are in an era where being bi offers an option. What you actually do to qualify as having a bi experience is nothing new. How it is seen in the public eye can change according to what is popular.
So did we find the expression because we suddenly became curious, or did we get bi and then need an expression to explain ourselves? Or are we just curious about the expression?
And would we use it elsewhere? To say someone is curious or curious, suddenly doesn't seem to have quite the same tone, does it? Although quite obviously such people do have a period of uncertainty before committing themselves.
So it will roll off the list of current expressions round about the time there is more familiarity with being bi, and it won't need to be separated from any sexual legal adult activity.
back in the mid 80's, i was having a fling, and things had progressed to videos of us shagging. We often did still photos at some distance and most of these didn't show a lot and were all printed, to our delight. the only other option was the good old Instamatic.
Anyway we upgraded to a new camera and took some close ups. And we knew it was good as the usual snap shots were really crisp and detailed, especially up close. And in one session we went for it totally, real close ups, the kind where you can see beads of sweat..............ahem.
I went down to the shop to collect them and when they knew the details, there was a bit of a kerfuffle in the back room and the woman on the till came out with sheepish grin and said I could only have my neagtives.
I knew immediately what that meant, said nothing and was out of the shop in seconds. back home I found a letter with the negatives, expressing the shock and advising me not to try it again.
Bit of a close call, but nothing to really worry about in the end.
Apart from which if any hetero person or couple were asked to account for their sexuality, I expect there would only be a few who could adequately so. I mean most people just would not be that good at saying what heterosexuality entails do you think?
So how well can they set about examining what bi truly means, I don't know.
i think the under 25's are doing well enough within their own generations. they are doing more downage as well. they don't really need to look upage.
Well.........
Anyway if there is no true bi component in the scenario, the situation is simply one of a single hetero male trying to pull a fast one. And we are back to bashing time wasting single males.
Or maybe the bi is genuine and backs off for their own reasons. Sometimes the power of 'no', comes as a surprise to some couples.
and i think its all these threads are going to achieve. that is the genuine subject of the debate may come out and make a noble stand. whilst the so called fakes will scuttle off and wait till the storm has passed.
leaving most people none the wiser and willing to be more suspicious of an as yet to be identified type.
I find these scrutinising type threads a bit illogical sometimes. Examining the motives, choices and activities of, in this case bi guys, seems unfounded.
Could we apply the same reasoning which constructed this enquiry to a swinging couple. Do they put up with a swing session so that both or either can get some action? ( Well if the truth be know, that is the case in some situations).
And does anyone doing sex with someone else, put up with it in order to have it? (Also this may well be the case in some situations). Kind of like having to occasionally force feed yourself the cake to make sure you always have one ready to eat.
Of course if its a bi meet, it needs mixed sexes to be one. That's the essence of bi.
besides if folks are going to lay out their do's and dont's, clearly you can't expect anything other than that. So if they do enough to pass themselves off as bi or only do what they say they will;as genuine bi's, how you going to know?
Its a hell of a state of affairs if a fellow can't come on the site and ask to have his arse given a good rogering. I mean what's it come to?
pretty soon we'll be telling rampant single women to get lost.
sheez.......................