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essex34m
10 hours ago
Straight Male, 54
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Quote by Lizaleanrob

Dave from Notts - Presumably at some stage in your life you have played competitive football? Would ANY player in a busy penalty box refer to an opponent as "Dear?" You know very well it is all about winding your opponent up, digging, kicking, elbows and verbal is the norm, not the exception and no player would call an opponent "Dear" - as you well know.

oh i see so all footballers are the same thus typecast as to intent to hurt/wind up the opponent
Ive got to say this is the best masterpiece yet to grace this thread
its a shame you really don't see some of the true sportsmanship in the game or even give the guy the benefit of the doubt
You are absolutely right, there is much sportsmanship to grace the game, but equally, the winding up of an opponent is very commonplace, I played at a reasonable amateur level, I have seen it done, I have done it. the winding up of an opponent will never go away, if anything, it is encouraged.
And it is not confined to football either, a quick search for the word 'sledging' would back this up.
Quote by starlightcouple
he called him a negrita

Can you please link to where you have seen this?
Much has been written about what was said, the reasons for it, and how it is not offensive elsewhere.
People are still out with their pitchforks, Suarez has been punished as a racist, with the whole nation becoming Judge, Jury and Executioner. All on the basis of reported stories, and no proof. He has been punished by a committee, one of whom sits in a high position within the English FA, and a harsh punishment has been handed out.
If there is absolute proof that Suarez has been racist, then he deserves the severest punishment possible, there is no place for it. But for racism to be diluted, much has to change. Alan Hansen was heavily criticised for using the word 'coloured' when describing black players. He wasn't being offensive, he just used an outdated word. Was he being racist? It didn't matter, he said the wrong thing, at the wrong time, and was forced to apologise for it. As long as racism is selective, this problem will remain.
Quote by HnS
so if you sign your name to something your not responsible for it ?

I would imagine a player will sign any contract if he is told by his agent all is above board, in much the same way that people will click on "i agree to the terms and conditions" when joining a forum, a site, a service or downloading an update without reading and dissecting every paragraph in it.
Quote by Ben_Minx
So you feel a language barrier excuses him from understanding the rules of the game he is employed to play?
I think you are being a bit silly.

The rules of the game are different to the laws of the land, or knowledge of a culture. Suarez has only been in this country 10 months, if he is bought up in a country and culture that does not place the same meaning to a word that we do, it will take some time to learn this. He may not have realised the gravity of it until the FA got involved.
Quote by MidsCouple24
what they did was wear his shirt with his name and his number which says to me, "he is racist and I am the same as him".

So if any fan has a replica Suarez or Terry football shirt, are they then racist if they do not dispose of it?
Quote by Ben_Minx
I am sure the individual would have had the sense not to walk into a pub or cafe and call one of the mixed race patrons that name eh? TBH if he did it round any of the places I have lived he would be lookin for his teeth.

Or sat on a tram with a child on their lap.
A statement from the players:
Luis Suarez is our teammate and our friend and as a group of players we are shocked and angered that he has been found guilty by the FA.
We totally support Luis and we want the world to know that. We know he is not racist.
We are a squad of many different nationalities and backgrounds. All of us support the Club's commitment to fighting racism. All of us accept there is no place in the game for any form of discrimination. As a group of players we totally support the Kick it Out Campaign.
We have lived, trained and played with Luis for almost 12 months and we don't recognise the way he has been portrayed. We will continue to support Luis through this difficult period, and as a popular and respected friend of all his teammates, he will not walk alone.
Quote by GnV
The offensive word used by Suarez is 'negrito' and is said to not have the nasty racist tone in Uruguay, where he is from, that it does here. The word is offensive, but rather than rightly consign it to history, it is kept alive by the likes of MTV, and is seen to be used extensively by black people amongst themselves, yet if a white person were to use it, all hell would break loose. Until such time that everyone reads from the same page, this problem will never go away.

I remember the last time I watched the film 'dambusters'. The Squadron Leader had a dog called ' ' (it was a black labrador) and this was dubbed out by the BBC because it might cause widespread offence!
Oh, please. It has gone too far.
Totally agree with you. As distasteful as the word is, that dog (and therefore it's name has historical context.
The offensive word used by Suarez is 'negrito' and is said to not have the nasty racist tone in Uruguay, where he is from, that it does here. The word is offensive, but rather than rightly consign it to history, it is kept alive by the likes of MTV, and is seen to be used extensively by black people amongst themselves, yet if a white person were to use it, all hell would break loose. Until such time that everyone reads from the same page, this problem will never go away.
One thing that amuses or baffles me in any conversation/discussion/bickering about Thatcher, is that you get the usual Labour supporters spill their hatred for what she did to this country, yet conveniently forget that she left power in 1990, to be replaced by John Major, who then became Prime Minister for 7 years. Labour were elected into power in 1997, and despite being in power for 13 years, did nothing to change some people's views that the problems with this country is all the fault of Thatcher.
Quote by Max777
I was agreeing with you Essex lol now, what was it you were saying...lol

Oh. redface Apologies.
Quote by Max777
My feeling is that prime ministers don't warrant a state funeral. Only the existing monarch does.

Remind me, as I'm getting a bit old in the tooth. Didn't Churchill warrant a State funeral and didn't the Queen Mother lay in State in Westminster Hall before a public(ish) ceremony?
And what about the amount of money wasted on the very public funeral of the fruitcake Diana, Princess of Wales just to up Bliar's popularity?
Baroness T is in every way deserving of a good send off. AFAIK, even Arfur Scarguts would pay in handsomely to any kind of send off fund if it pre-dates his demise :lol2:
I think you meant HER .... how and where do I contribute to such a fund ??
No, it is very obviously pre-dates HIS demise. He would pay into a send off fund, if it happens before HE pops his clogs.
Look up go on up ...no a bit further ....aaaah there it is
just goes to prove that some people only see what they want to see!
It's not a case of reading what I want to read, I am reading it as he can't give once he has died. therefore pre-dates his demise.
Quote by TheRose
Sorry not impressed, we don't wish for any of our pics to be seen by non members. We definitely need an opt out tick box somewhere if this is gonna stay, till then all pics have gone private.
Blue

Im not sure i said anywhere, that you need to be impressed smile
Then doing that is your option, close enough to a nicked box.. and then you will nearly know who can see your pics. Great job, for thinking, NOW i am impressed. :)
And nobody said they were trying to impress you.
Quote by TheRose
We have it on the aussie, had it that way for a long time. Its the main profile pic, on a persons, profile, if people, want to see the full pic/profile, they would have to join the site. To see them.
They would be all non adult pics they can see.. If there was an adult pic, being used, until they join, it would be blurred out. As well.
Hope that clears some of that up.

That's fine, but some people use face pics, with the belief that the only people that can see them are members, but if, as you say, you have this as a feature on the Aussie version of the site, then this is clearly a design feature, not a site fault.
And another justification for me not putting my face pic on my profile.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
My feeling is that prime ministers don't warrant a state funeral. Only the existing monarch does.

Remind me, as I'm getting a bit old in the tooth. Didn't Churchill warrant a State funeral and didn't the Queen Mother lay in State in Westminster Hall before a public(ish) ceremony?
And what about the amount of money wasted on the very public funeral of the fruitcake Diana, Princess of Wales just to up Bliar's popularity?
Baroness T is in every way deserving of a good send off. AFAIK, even Arfur Scarguts would pay in handsomely to any kind of send off fund if it pre-dates his demise :lol2:
I think you meant HER .... how and where do I contribute to such a fund ??
No, it is very obviously pre-dates HIS demise. He would pay into a send off fund, if it happens before HE pops his clogs.
Quote by bIoke
All these single, sex mad, bargain-spotter blokey types in Chat and I've not been there - perhaps I should go in tonight and see what I can round up confused
If anyone gets unwanted whispers tonight, just ask them to whisper me if you see me in the room.
Happy and here to help!
smile

So selfless!
Quote by Hooters
So - to those that said this free week was a good idea...wonder what you think tonight ?
First day of the free week and the site continually crashes....
I rest my case.
:sad: :sad:
Lots of angry members on the site complaining.
Hope the guys at the top can resolve the issues asap - I have faith in them wink
Get those hamsters working guys !

But it's also crashed when there has been no free week, so if we have problems, yet gain more members, isn't that a silver lining in that particular cloud?
Quote by Cubes
So doesn't getting 'fresh meat' onto the site benefit the existing members? dunno

It upsets the cliques.
Quote by Bluefish2009
Securtity opperation for the cull could cost £4 Million :eeek:
However, if it helps the farmers out it must be worth the cost. The cull is expected to lead to a 16 per cent reduction in bovine TB, which was behind the slaughter of 25,000 cattle in England last year.
Badger cull gets go-ahead with Olympic-sized police operation
The shooting of thousands of badgers will go ahead next year but not until after the Olympics to prevent police resources being overstretched by the £4? million security operation required for the cull.

Surely game and wildlife shooters would be cheaper?
Quote by bIoke
However, if they could ensure any single males that join have more than an 8" cock, then I'd personally stand at the door.. actually, I'd kneel at the door with my mouth open like a baby bird innocent

Bloke lets first one in:
Finding out who my friends are. Even if I didn't accept their generous offers of help, it still meant a huge amount.
Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
Hi, please can you take us off the list for this.

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Quote by iluvminis
Essex, you're a top man

That is hugely appreciated, thank you.
Quote by HarryJones
I'd like to be considered please, I will have to try and be nice, and ask someone to vouch for me.
Fankoo.

Looks like you already down before I got as far as vouching!
Regards
Harry Jones
Harry, I thank you so much that you would do this for me, seeing as I am not known on the munch/social circuit innocent
Quote by Cubes

If I get an inkling of suspicion now I'll asked that the meet be arrange through shrep.

And the plus side is that every successful meet adds to your Shrep meet rep too. :thumbup:
Some of us use SHrep, not because it works, but because a number of people believe it works.
I'd like to be considered please, I will have to try and be nice, and ask someone to vouch for me.
Fankoo.
Quote by MidsCouple24
But if you do not "pigeon hole" them as has been said how do you act when around different types of friends.

No differently.
Just like I wouldn't act differently to a shop assistant of Tesco, than I would to an assistant of Harrods. They are only people, and if they treat me properly, I will act accordingly. Manners, courtesy and respect mean more to me than whether a person attaches themselves to a scene or community.
Quote by Dave__Notts
Especially selfish if they do it publically like throwing themselves in front of the train. The poor driver and passengers will be traumatised over it.
Dave_Notts

It's not pleasant for those of us who have had to clean up afterwards.