true enough funfor2 but this post smacks of "i'm alright jack", which is fine if that's what the OP wants. Fair enough to him, he has access to private land and a caravan.
Speaking as an ex dogger ( for the same reasons you highlighted), and having been dogging as both a single and couple, we loved the not knowing if there would be one or 15 guys or couples where we went.
I think it's the uncertainty of it all that we like, but i for one would not go to a priave area with somone i didn't know or trust. If i got to know them then that's different and all credit to the OP for offering a service, but as he would be seeing a couple at their most vunerable, i would be bloomin sure i knew him ( or anyone in that position) well.
Has me in creases... keep it up biys it's brilliant!.
Why on earth would anyone want to try a caravan in a field...... all the dogging i have done has been with a group of respectful doggers.
And we wonder why it's all going downhill....
will people understand that the whole point of dogging is that couples come out because they are exhibitionists or just like to wtach and be watched but it is their choice!. They can sit there and drink tea all night should they choose.
If the lady offers anything above and beyond that then we are very lucky.
At a well known spot outside Nottingham one night there must have been 25 blokes just standing around chatting. I pulled in and straight out again so god knows what a couple must have thought.
The same is seen on posts on here sometime " single male looking for fun" type adverts who then complain if they don't get a reply after ten minutes ( ok i exagerate a bit there), but you get my drift.
It's not a right that you will see anything or do anything.
Comes back to the lack of respect in my earlier post. If i saw on eor two guys round a car i would either back off as first come first go or wait to be waved over, i would not spoil somone else's fun.
Same with how close you park, i would leave at least 10-15 yds but another moron would park closer, knowing he was blocking my view and scare the couple off. I've had to remonstrate several times over the years.
i'm sorry you have been so unlucky but this is my point. I am going back to the early to mid 90s so some years ago and respect was always shown to all parties.
Your paint incident shows just how silly it has got.
Theses aren't genuine doggers. It's the same anti-social crowd that gathers anywhere.
EVen back then a number of people i met ( all male doggers) had the veiw that"i'm here i have a right to a shag".
The same element are now prevalent in the clubs.
I've been as a single and a couple so it's not hard to work out how to behave but one guy opened teh door to the couples room in one club, held it open and stood there wanking until somone booted the door closed, busting his nose, his pride and his dick i would imagine.
The problem is Derby, i think the new style doggers have been attracting plod attention for 3-4 years now.
Perhaps it's the rose tinted glasses but the late 90s and early 2000s seemed to be a gentler time.
Doggers respected each other and more importantly the couples.
There were no pre-concieved ideas and no one expected to be able to do anything other than watch....
You got to know the guys and couples at each spot
How i long for those days
This topic is the reason that i stopped dogging and now go to the clubs. I am a well built ex military chap who can look after himself and i used to get scared....
Also up there often but it can get very busy in spring summer and not sure re security as if it's car park i am thinking of there are lots of valuable boats stored in there
Sad to say it's been like it for a while all over the country.... spoils it for everyone else.
Also Google their ditty "Cheap Flights", They are superb!
That one word sums it up. If we are all discrete, we incur the wrath of no one- present a united front to drive away the thugs and racers.
We need to stick together..
As teh one that started the recent thread about bad behaviour, this is so refreshing to read, great news
Hi NW, Hmm is the right word, do these evenings really exist?. I hope they do, but experiences both personal and feedback on the forum would suggest that they are few and far between.
I didn't mean to start a negative thread. It's still a great thing and teh good times are amazing for al concerned.
Twilight i'm with you on this one mate it happens to me and scares me to death but a number of sites have the gay community as a problem. I am a believer in whatever floats your boat but i know of at least two sites near me that have been ruined because the gay community are there in broad daylight and full view. I take my young family cycling through local woodland and i have had to go on ahead and clear them out! ( i am not exagerating !)
Why not wait until dark!.
Also agree with the pushy side of it, i have been both as a single male and as a couple ( same with the clubs now, we only go on couples nights now), quite a few singles seem to think they have a right to a s**g.
It will get better so keep on smiling!
Thanks for the comments folks, not sure who to blame, the doggers, the press from when they were all over it with Collymore.
Having been on both sides of the fence as a single male and a couple, it certainly went downhill after the Collymore incident. As a single male i used to go to that whole area regularly and it was a nice social scene. If a couple or three turned up then great they would be respectfully treated. If not we had a good laugh.
At least it not just me that thinks this way now. I/we will stick to clubs for the forseeable future.
Keep up the good works anyway
I read some posts on here ( it is a minority i do stress, and now understand why dogging has died off, Pushy Pushy Pushy... whether it's meant in jest or otherwise, it summarises what i saw at a nice quiet spot last week. Parked up on my own, car pull sin, parks a reasonable disatnce away and starts putting on a show.
within 2 mins, 3 cars turn up. to make it clear, i do not expect to keep this show to myself but for christ sake fellas, show some common sense. 2 cars park in the gap, so close to my car and the couples car that they needed to be contortinists to get out then number three parks facing with full beam on.
No suprise that they drove off!.
I said to the gathered collection of morons " well done lads" i don't know how you do it! and they still didnt get it.
I use a small halogen light for shooting vey cheap just shine it at them and they will sod off
Sadly, it's the same teh idiots we say this over and over again, im a dogger therefore i get a shag, its like that at teh clubs now. We have stopped going on mixed nights for teh same reason.
I can understand why they gate off some carparks though,
we were sat soem weeks ago in a car park with 4 yr old daughter mid afternoon gays visible in woods and blokes parking so close ignoring the fact we had daughter with us and were having a car picnic.
I got out my side wlaked round and asked him why he was parking so close as teh car park was mostly empty he said i can park where i want. I said i know why you are here its C***s liek you that spoil it now Fexk off, got jack handle and only then did he bog off.
Luckily i know the area, others dont and we wonder why we get a bad name....
On the few times i have popped into various sites, there has been a few boy racers but not a lot of action. PM me if you fancy meeting anywhere in Leeds.
Visited various parts over the last few months, day and night and apart from a few gays, was dead as a dodo.
but a few close by, let me know if you are interested xx
I work in sales and cover most of the UK, so yup, as long as targets are achieved then no problem. Covering the UK also gives me chance to visit sites away from my home base.
I can see your point Jomu, but you have the full story. I've been dogging for enough years to respect other people. It's a free world and people are free to do what they want. Had i been driving around with lights on, up close and personal, he'd have had a valid point but i always go to sides when i pull in a place and always park a distance away from any other car soI have to say in this case I can't see what i did wrong. The other individual then proceeded to get blown out anyway as the Nova fraternity roared in..... Ah well page 3,274 in the book of experience.
I think dirtydogger has summed it up, i've also ntoiced a change in attitudes insoemof eth clubs i go to as of our wonerful press, people now think that if they turn up to a dogging site or club they are g'teed some form of action, yet as we all know..manners maketh man...or woman!.
Whilst parked up in the north recently, a couple pulled in and sent a couple of signals. I thought i would leave it a few mins for them to relax etc when another pulled in lights ablaze, a bloke got out of his car and said "don't spoil this couple for me or I will put a golf club through your f****** windscreen!". Having been dogging for some years, and being a big bloke, it didn't bother me, but why do people feel the need to do this. If somone is enjoying themselves, i for one will not go over unless invited, it's all part of the etiquette.
If this guys' fun had been spoiled before, i can understand him getting hacked off, and a polite word will suffice, but he might say the wrong thing to the wrong person one day, the boys in blue get involved then we're all buggered( no pun intended)