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goldsmith
Over 90 days ago
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Quote by poshkate

Because I am perhaps one of "the more literate" among us, and because I don't tend to make vague statements, I did put the following in my profile when it was written some time ago:
"By exceptional we mean guys with intelligence, respect and those who Goldsmith has some sort or rapport with. This takes time, it doesn't happen in 10 minutes."
Why is this causing so much fuss?

Don't you mean some sort of rapport?
and I'm NOT one of the "more literate". Even if I wasn't dyslexic I'd check my posts before I preach. smile You might want to change it on your profile too ;) :)
Well thanks for that, I have corrected my typo on the profile.
And who is preaching, I certainly wasn't.
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Hiya we will be in maspalomas at the end of march would love to meet up with other couples for a drink and a laugh
Helen and Mark xxxxxxxx

Put me in your suitcase xxxx
Quote by duncanlondon
Because I am perhaps one of "the more literate" among us, and because I don't tend to make vague statements, I did put the following in my profile when it was written some time ago:
"By exceptional we mean guys with intelligence, respect and those who Goldsmith has some sort or rapport with. This takes time, it doesn't happen in 10 minutes."
Why is this causing so much fuss?

The word doesn't need to be redefined or given a different meaning.
Exactly my point - exceptional means not ordinary; uncommon; rare; better than the average; superior. Nothing wrong in aiming high is there?
But it doesn't mean intelligent, respectful and having rapport with?
It does in my world and in the context of my profile lol - just an interpretation of not ordinary; rare; better than the average; rare; superior; - although I quite like ordinary wink
Quote by duncanlondon
Because I am perhaps one of "the more literate" among us, and because I don't tend to make vague statements, I did put the following in my profile when it was written some time ago:
"By exceptional we mean guys with intelligence, respect and those who Goldsmith has some sort or rapport with. This takes time, it doesn't happen in 10 minutes."
Why is this causing so much fuss?

The word doesn't need to be redefined or given a different meaning.
Exactly my point - exceptional means not ordinary; uncommon; rare; better than the average; superior. Nothing wrong in aiming high is there?
Quote by Steve

Because I am perhaps one of "the more literate" among us, and because I don't tend to make vague statements, I did put the following in my profile when it was written some time ago:
"By exceptional we mean guys with intelligence, respect and those who Goldsmith has some sort or rapport with. This takes time, it doesn't happen in 10 minutes."
Why is this causing so much fuss?

Dont flatter yourself :lol2:
Its not just your profile that being discussed here ;-)
I realise that, I am not flattering myself at all. I am just trying to make a point, that's all.
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Its difficult to put down what one's experiences do to you sometimes. I had an encounter recently which was glorious but I don't really know why or how it was so special. So I am not sure I could advertise for such an experience again or the type of person who I think would make that happen.
From the outset it would be limiting and alientaing a lot of people from feeling they could enter into responding. Because I would probably be very focussed on recreating that experience. So why would I do that if it were to make people feel that it was unlikely they could fulfil that.
So if I chose to use an expression which alienated most people but gave some kind of encouragement to another group whom I felt could most closely fulfill me, I might begin to use a variety of words such as 'accomplished' 'consummate' or even 'effecting'.
Unfortunately the actual meaning of exceptional is double barrelled. It means oustanding in good qualities and also notoriously bad ones. So having to play the teacher, exceptional is indeed a somewhat contradictory word to use. Exacerbating the more literate amongst us.
So again its the use of a 'gotten about' expression which really can cause a lot of misunderstanding.

Because I am perhaps one of "the more literate" among us, and because I don't tend to make vague statements, I did put the following in my profile when it was written some time ago:
"By exceptional we mean guys with intelligence, respect and those who Goldsmith has some sort or rapport with. This takes time, it doesn't happen in 10 minutes."
Why is this causing so much fuss?
Quote by duncanlondon
Its just not a very specific way to describe what you are looking for. Because in saying something like that you might be considering a fairly narrow band of people to select from. So this could be detailed, but perhaps in a one to one communication.
And again its not your fault for trying. It's all we have to work with.

I give up!
Quote by duncanlondon
So it's not something you can ask for. Its something that you find or discover by chance.
But its not something that's easy to put in an advert. Or at least its a clumsy way of saying 'I'd like to be completely surprised and swept off my feet by mister wonderful. But I don't want to have to deal with anything less than that kind of experience.'
But this is something beyond the simple practicalities of arranging to meet someone who may have potential. Whcih is what a site such as this caters for.

The only person who has swept me off my feet is Silver, who is my Mr Wonderful. We didnt get into swinging to be swept off our feet. We got into it to enhance what we already have and to fulfill some of the fantasies we have, both of which we achieve in many ways.
I am interested in what people think I mean in my profile when I say 'exceptional single guys'?
I know what I mean, but it obviously creates the wrong impression.
We don't meet many single guys mainly because we generally prefer to meet with couples. But we don't totally dismiss it if someone nice comes along who I really fancy meeting. Therefore it is exceptional, perhaps in circumstance than the individual himself. Is that more clear or is it going to confuse even more?
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Its just a stock meaningless phrase that fails to communicate properly.
When it comes to profiles I think real words work best.

I think you will find that my profile has lots of 'real' words too.
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I think its just another one of those expressions that have gotten about and been adopted as part of the language of advertising for sex.
Perhaps a way of saying 'we're quality because we only choose it'
It still does not exclude the possibility that the advertiser may just as easily get fed up waiting for the exceptional and elect to have sex with the worst possible forms of human life.

Ahh, there are lots of exceptional people here, so no need to wait for the worst possible forms of human life lol
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I have on my profile that I occasionally meet exceptional single guys - By exceptional I mean guys with a modicum of intelligence, total respect and those who I have some sort or rapport with, the latter being the most important. It's got bugger all to do with being well hung, gymn fit, fat, thin, tall, short, blond, dark, black or white.
I see nothing wrong with this and its not meant to put single guys off in anyway or offend anyone.
I also see nothing wrong in being choosey in the swinging lifestyle, just because we swing, it doesnt mean we will shag anything or anyone. We have high standards in our general life; why would we lower them in the swinging lifestyle.

Choosey is bad, it leaves me out mad
Just as well i only watch lol
Might I just say goldsmith, that is a wonderful rear view :smitten:
Thanks, and the same to you xx
I have on my profile that I occasionally meet exceptional single guys - By exceptional I mean guys with a modicum of intelligence, total respect and those who I have some sort or rapport with, the latter being the most important. It's got bugger all to do with being well hung, gymn fit, fat, thin, tall, short, blond, dark, black or white.
I see nothing wrong with this and its not meant to put single guys off in anyway or offend anyone.
I also see nothing wrong in being choosey in the swinging lifestyle, just because we swing, it doesnt mean we will shag anything or anyone. We have high standards in our general life; why would we lower them in the swinging lifestyle.
Eat a cube of jelly every day, its made from Gelatin and helps strengthen the nails. It took my nails 2 years to recover from wearing false nails and I will never wear them again, they stop air getting to the nails and weaken them. I now always have some sort of polish on them, even if its clear varnish, as it protects them from the elements.
I prefer wine gums to jelly, the advantages from it far outweigh the slight disadvantages of the sugar content! but only a couple a day or you will be asking about false teeth next lol.
Good Luck xx
Oh and give them a gentle scrub each day with a soft nail brush, it keeps them clean and stimulates healthy cuticles.
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i don't know sometimes how debates get developed round here. you could take any profile here and examine it. there are some demanding safe sex, but show piccies of various partners bareback. there are those who want face piccies but don't show their own.
It seems like most profiles are a contradiction, and at the same time constrained by what I think is a limited vocabulary and language. So i haven't put much faith in the profile as a gauge of people's intentions or abilities. But its all there is available to use as a tool.
i just don't know if I'll be bothered again to use my profile. there never was much there anyway. Of the few I have met through the site, their profile was to me; just a formality. they were quite different to the image I had formed. It was just a nuisance to have formed an incorrect impression.

You're quite right about contradictions in profile. Shall we take a slight detour here - I am one of those people who like face pics, and until the tagging facility came in, I did have face pics on my profile but they are now in private, for anyone to see if I invite them. xxx
A full profile is essential on here. According to admin a fully completed profile will improve your success rate by 73% - not 74%, not 72%. I view any incomplete profile with suspicion.
Why do men who have bi tendencies tick a box that says straight? You would have to ask them individually and be prepared for a lot of different answers.
The thread has moved onto personal choice and there certainly is a difference between what doesn't turn you on and homophobia. This same discussion has been done with size, age, colour, height etc replacing sexuality - it's personal choice and what suits one person doesn't suit another - look for the people that will find you suitable and that will save a lot of heartache.
Eureka !!!!!
Quote by flower411
so tell me why you dont play with bi men?
I live my life as i see it,boundaries just get in the way

I don't have to explain my choices, anymore than anyone has to.
But sharing sexual experiences is what swinging is about in our view, and our preference is not to share our sexual experiences with bi men. We have lots and lots of gay, bi and straight friends, with whom we have a mutual repect for each others choices.
But again, this thread like the one I started a while ago has simply turned into a various sexual orientations protecting their own corner, which of course was not was the OP was about.
I am not protecting any corner,just wondered if anyone was ever going to give an honest answer to a simple question
I thought somebody had !!
But if they hadn`t ....
It`s cos they don`t want to !! lol
Simple as that wink
And quite right too! xx
Quote by BIoke
That's cool kiss I do find it all a bit intriguing and sad at the same time myself too, to be honest - the fact that people have to cover it up I mean. Especially from people that they know and love. I had a 'straight' bloke chatting to me last night and he said his girlfriend had no idea about his bi tendencies... I tend to operate on the 'well that's none of my business' basis but I still thought about it afterwards. But I do realise I'm in a pretty unusual position on here than a lot of other guys and am thankful for that.
Do the women on here think they'd know if there husband or boyfriend was bi? I reckon they would...

Totally agree BIoke, I certainly would. The knowing bit I mean xxx The reason I know, before I am asked, is that we are together 24/7 and spend more time than anyone can imagine talking about our sexual fantasies/preferences and such like and we are honest with each other. But I do accept that a lot of people arent as honest as some.
Oh BTW, this is good fun, a refreshing change from the chat room. Perhaps I will become a forum junkie lol xxxxx
Quote by Kaznkev
so tell me why you dont play with bi men?
I live my life as i see it,boundaries just get in the way

I don't have to explain my choices, anymore than anyone has to.
But sharing sexual experiences is what swinging is about in our view, and our preference is not to share our sexual experiences with bi men. We have lots and lots of gay, bi and straight friends, with whom we have a mutual repect for each others choices.
But again, this thread like the one I started a while ago has simply turned into a various sexual orientations protecting their own corner, which of course was not was the OP was about.
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Surely to God, if we choose not to play with bi men, that's not bullshit, its our choice, and that is our right. Swinging is very personal to the individual. Perhaps SH should do away with the tick boxes altogether. Ask SH why the tick boxes are there, they must have a reason for it, and I am glad they do.

I agree - but how can you be sure they ain't bi.. just because they've not ticked the box? Most of the one's I play with ain't bi either wink
You can't BIoke, thats another problem. But the people we meet have similar views to us, as far as we can tell. We do take time to get to know people we play with, and we have made some very good friends in this lifestyle, something we like and cherish.
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What Nola said :thumbup:... and because I can't really speak right now as I have a mouth full of 'straight' cock innocent
At the end of the day, it's your actions that count, not the label you or anyone else gives you... and a LOT of the 'straight' men here play with blokes - especially when there's pussy about - FACT... not gay opinion. I've been there and seen it happen. Same as Dogging I've found - in my opinion, a bloke who's sex drive is high enough to take him off to a car park in the pissing rain in -10 degrees looking for 'straight' sex will consider sex with a guy - even if it's just a blow. Again, I've seen it happen (and done it) many, many times.
Are they bi? I dunno, I don't really care, just horny and feeling sexy I guess and as long as we all get off on it then great. I discovered very early on here that it rarely 'does what it says on the tin' so now I just make sure I ask the 'tin' lots of questions before I take it off the shelf and open it wink
And no, I don't think all men are bi, I didn't say that. But I do think in the right scenario a lot of men will play. At the end of the day, this is a sexually driven and motivated site so it's par for the course I think.
I'm not bi but in a sexually driven situation I'll play with females.. I've changed the label on my profile a few times after feedback - you'll never please everyone all of the time though I guess.
smile x
Oh..and to answer the question :gagged: They don't put bi because they are scared to.

:thumbup: in the discussions we have had about our status,it is clear that i fancy women and men and kev fancies women and likes cock,thay are different things,but the lable obbsessed a will not believe this.
If someone wanted to have a pint,discuss formative sexual experiences and chew the fat,well they might discover that box ticking tells you nothing
quite frankly tho i am not sure we want to play with ppl who limit themselves arbitarly,it doesnt suggest that the play will be as fab as it could be.
Ppl who have talked about choice,sure you can choose lots of things, you can also choose to accept fucking is just fucking and after that its all just so much bs
sorry about the rant
Surely to God, if we choose not to play with bi men, that's not bullshit, its our choice, and that is our right. Swinging is very personal to the individual. Perhaps SH should do away with the tick boxes altogether. Ask SH why the tick boxes are there, they must have a reason for it, and I am glad they do.
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Can I just add that Geoff and I are very open and honest about our sexuality, not only in here but in real life too and if people don't like it then so be it.
We don't see the need to hide who and what we are with people around us and with each other...why are people taking this thread the wrong way? sad

They always do, I posted a similar thread recently, just asking the simple question as to why single guys who describe themselves as straight, then tick the box looking for single bi males. I think its a matter of honesty, rather than anything else. And my question should certainly not be taken as homophobic, which judging by the responses is exactly what people think I am. All rather daft, as a simple question was taken so far out of context I gave up.
Surely if you're bi or bi curious, then say so, and if people are honest enough to say they dont meet with bi or bi curious people, then thats their choice, nothing to do with being homophobia.
"Homophobia - The term evolved to mean a general "fear of homosexuals or of homosexual behavior." A big word, surely we arent talking about 'fear'. I certainly am not.
In the chatroom, when you first click to put your cam on there is a little box that comes up asking you if you want to allow or deny, you should be able to click the camera icon in this box before you click 'allow' that will give you a list of the cams attached to your computer which you can choose your external cam from.
I use an external cam sometimes on my laptop and thats what i did first time i used it and it was fine. I think once you have done it, the laptop will automatically sense which cam you want to use from your previous request.
Hope this helps xx
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can anyone help. I want to use my external webcam in chat but not my built in cam on my laptop. Anyone know where on my comp th change the settings?
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We will be coming up to 15 years of marriage soon and were thinking of renewing our vows.
We thought we might like to do something a bit different so was thinking that it may be interesting to do it in our favourite swinging club .....
Do you think that all vicars would think this highly inappropriate?
Can anyone advise me where to find a vicar who might do this and how to broach the subject.

I can't honestly seeing you finding a vicar that will agree to you having sex with anyone other that your marital partner. This is what you are asking them to give their blessing too in effect. It's just not what they believe is right.
If you do find one, the chances of them being from your area are slim, usually they all work within their own diocese.
I think it might be best to do it in your local church and have a party at the club after, as was previously suggested. Good luck!!
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Personally, I MUCH prefer straight guys too :rascal:
Hmmm... I'm not helping am I? <snigger> x

NO! (sniggers back) lol
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FFS am I talking a foreign language - I have NO problem with people being bi, although we choose not to meet bi guys, its just our choice....

I don't think his comments were aimed at you - you seem to have personalised all of the negative responses so far confused I'm just reading them as general chit chat :P
Thanks BIoke. xxx It seemed to me that my point was lost in the melly of the posts, and I was getting rather frustrated with it really.
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A guy drives into the car park of a cafe. He steps out of his car, enters the bar wearing his business suit and tie and sits down at a table.
The waitress approaches and he orders a coffee.
“Sir” she says, do you ride a motorbike when you aren’t driving your car?”
“Yes” he says, “I 
“I’m sorry, sir, but unfortunately we don’t serve bikers 
“But I’m not on my bike, I’ve come in a car, I’m wearing a suit, not bike leathers!”
“I’m sorry, Sir, but you bikers are all the same no matter how you dress it up and we don’t serve bikers. I’m quite happy to talk to you, just not serve  :shock:
As her shift had just finished, she then walked out the cafe, put on her helmet and rode away on her own motorbike - don't you just love double standards!!
As someone who is bi (and it’s on my profile and has been for a very long time), I cannot understand when a couple advertise for a male, but won’t accept someone who may tick all the boxes, but is bi. Why? You are discriminating against that persons sexuality. He is bi, which means he may have sex with either or both of you. If the male of the couple is straight and it’s made clear they are looking for someone for the female of the couple, what is the problem? I can understand if he had too much/not enough hair, was too old/young, too tall/short, too fat/thin as these are physical elements of their makeup that cannot be changed, but his sexuality is relative to the moment, ie, if the other male doesn’t want male/male contact, then the bi guy for that period would be playing straight. It's even more odd when the female of the couple is bi as well and therefore should understand what bi means!
By playing straight, he is not denying his sexuality; he’s just complying with the situation honestly to all involved. Perhaps some of these couples may need to look a little closer to home regarding their prejudices and why that may affect the way some males react towards them and what they put/change on their profile. They may be perpetuating the problem.
As an aside, I found more females keen to meet/play with a bi guy than didn’t. So guys, be true to yourself and you’ll be appreciated for what you are, rather than what you say you are.
Mal
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I have NO problem with people being bi, although we choose not to meet bi guys, its just our choice. But I will state once again that my question was, and still is:
Why do STRAIGHT SINGLE GUYS say they are looking for BI SINGLE GUYS? To put it in simple terms, if a guy is str8, then surely that means he isnt interested in meeting with another guy for sex. If a str8 single guy wants to meet a bi single guy, that means he isnt str8, he is either bi or bi curious and nothing wrong with that at all.
A lot of couples will play with bi males even if the guy of the couple is str8, assuming that the bi guy can play with the female. And for us to choose not to meet with bi guys isnt us being discriminative, its us stating our preference. And its certainly not a matter of double standards.
I thought swinging was about having choice. I also thought it was openly encouraged for people to be honest on their profiles thats all I was saying.
I agree Mal, people should be true to themselves, and yes they will be far more appreciated for that.
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Does anyone understand what I meant when I started this thread, it's gone so far off the point now you need a sat nav to get back. I am not uneducated or inexperienced, just confused as to why single str8 guys look for single bi guys on their profiles. Simples!!

My comments weren't aimed at you and sorry if you thought that. They actually came about as a result of a conversation that I had at a wedding reception last Saturday night confused I was just commenting generally in a thread that like most on here, has evolved as others have posted wink
Yes, I understand and yes I agree with you as it baffles/amuses me too. I think some of it might even be as a result that a lot of them join the site in the early hours when they've come in drunk and horny and don't quite know what box they are ticking.. literally and metaphorically! Usernames are a good example of that too - i.e. 'johnnyfannylicker' or 'jennycumguzzler' probably seem good names DUI but in the cold light of day seem more like something a teenager would use.
As for the 'oh, that's a mistake' answer from the guys.. that's even funnier when they also have an ad. running in 'men seeking men' and the TV section. But then TV's don't make a straight man bi as they look like girls.. well some do innocent
Thank you, thank you, thank you, you actually got what I was saying. I never thought about the ads bit, which does make it even funnier.