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goldsmith
Over 90 days ago
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Quote by Witchy
From 'what is a munch':
'A munch is a purely social event held in a totally neutral environment'
So by that definition, Goldsmith's dinners in an hotel could, I suppose, be classed as a munch, as long as they are open to all members with no restrictions on types of member, ie. single males. You can't have a munch and say 'couples only', for example.

Exactly my point, at my event, everyone was welcome, we had singles, couples, CD's etc there and all were sh members, and it wasnt a playing environment, but it was deemed not to be classed as a munch, which would have been nice as it could have been stickied. I did wonder why at the time, but was told that it wasnt so.
I feel much better now its clearer. Thanks xx
Goldsmith
xx
can I also chime in for two seconds as well.... just as i have looked at what you propsed for your socials... I would also consider then socials for a few reasons....
maybe it is me... but organising a munch is a huge task (trust me... been there, done it, not really keen to do it again also i keep being asked!! lol )
a few things i would consider... your last social only gave people 10 days notice, and when you put up the original list there were already pre-ordained names on it....
another is cost... your socials are much more expensive than munches are
when you see the likes of leeds (which had 150 people there... and wigan (which already has 170 names of people wanting to go) this things are organised months in advance.... giving people time to arrange things like travel, hotels, childcare ect ect....... and are always first come first serve...
people will come from all across the country to support a munch..... a few of the southern ones have been hijacked by northerners all coming down... lol
not knocking what you do at all... and i encourage that you keep doing it, one of my biggest sh regrets is that i missed a medieval social banquet they had a few years ago.. and that is probably the closest i can relate yours too...
I wish you would put your name down for one of those see how the rest of us live so to speak... maybe then you would have more people put your name down for yours....
sean xxxx
Well thanks for that! I am so glad you put me right on how to organise events. You might be interested to know that part of our work is event promotion and organisation (that's festivals, concerts, tours, carnivals, weddings etc) from start to finish, and I do realise how much work goes into any event.
The ‘pre-ordained’ list was the list that had been put together by me from people who had actually asked me when the next social was going to be and could they please come. The social wasn’t planned months in advance, and it was put onto the forum as soon as the date was agreed with the hotel.
As to 'how the rest of you live' do you think I live on the moon? I have been to other socials/munches and that is why I tend to organise my own (read into that what you wish).
I know there are some really nice socials and munches organised, and the main reason we don’t go to them is because we are usually working as most of our work is done at the weekends.
With regard to the cost of my socials making it not a munch - what the hell difference does it make - this event at the hotel was a four course meal for - which I think is a very good deal - you get what you pay for mostly in this life. If people want something a little special, then it has to be paid for. I will stress that not one penny profit was made from any of my socials, the hotel charged £15 for the meal per head, which is what people paid. There was also entertainment, which I covered, and there was also a lot of time, effort and cost to the event, which I covered.
I think we have already established the difference between a munch and a social, and my hotel event was certainly within the guidelines of a munch even though it was a bit more expensive - a car is a car whether it’s a BMW or a mini.
Goldsmith
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I had to butt in. I'm like that. Goldsmith, I'm not sure that just because your "do" differed from the usual munch scenario it shouldn't be called a munch- at least not if that's the only reason. If it fits the stated criteria, but just doesn't sit right with admin, then perhaps admin should rewrite the guidelines.
However, I am sure that you just recieved some sound advice from someone trying to help- and doing so as politely and encouragingly as possible- and in return were bloody rude. confused
I wasnt being bloody rude I was just responding to being patronised. I always appreciate sound advice, but being told to see how the rest of you live I thought was a bit much.
I apologise if my response came across as being bloody rude it certainly wasn't meant, I too like to butt in and sometimes things are taken out of context in the written word.
All I did in my first response to the OP was to ask what the difference was between a munch and a social, and now its turned into something else completely.
Basically I do something that most wouldn't want to partake in, or wouldn't want to spend money on. This is no reason not to do it for myself and those who see it as good value.
Goldsmith
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Quote by fabio
From 'what is a munch':
'A munch is a purely social event held in a totally neutral environment'
So by that definition, Goldsmith's dinners in an hotel could, I suppose, be classed as a munch, as long as they are open to all members with no restrictions on types of member, ie. single males. You can't have a munch and say 'couples only', for example.

Exactly my point, at my event, everyone was welcome, we had singles, couples, CD's etc there and all were sh members, and it wasnt a playing environment, but it was deemed not to be classed as a munch, which would have been nice as it could have been stickied. I did wonder why at the time, but was told that it wasnt so.
I feel much better now its clearer. Thanks xx
Goldsmith
xx
can I also chime in for two seconds as well.... just as i have looked at what you propsed for your socials... I would also consider then socials for a few reasons....
maybe it is me... but organising a munch is a huge task (trust me... been there, done it, not really keen to do it again also i keep being asked!! lol )
a few things i would consider... your last social only gave people 10 days notice, and when you put up the original list there were already pre-ordained names on it....
another is cost... your socials are much more expensive than munches are
when you see the likes of leeds (which had 150 people there... and wigan (which already has 170 names of people wanting to go) this things are organised months in advance.... giving people time to arrange things like travel, hotels, childcare ect ect....... and are always first come first serve...
people will come from all across the country to support a munch..... a few of the southern ones have been hijacked by northerners all coming down... lol
not knocking what you do at all... and i encourage that you keep doing it, one of my biggest sh regrets is that i missed a medieval social banquet they had a few years ago.. and that is probably the closest i can relate yours too...
I wish you would put your name down for one of those see how the rest of us live so to speak... maybe then you would have more people put your name down for yours....
sean xxxx
Well thanks for that! I am so glad you put me right on how to organise events. You might be interested to know that part of our work is event promotion and organisation (that's festivals, concerts, tours, carnivals, weddings etc) from start to finish, and I do realise how much work goes into any event.
The ‘pre-ordained’ list was the list that had been put together by me from people who had actually asked me when the next social was going to be and could they please come. The social wasn’t planned months in advance, and it was put onto the forum as soon as the date was agreed with the hotel.
As to 'how the rest of you live' do you think I live on the moon? I have been to other socials/munches and that is why I tend to organise my own (read into that what you wish).
I know there are some really nice socials and munches organised, and the main reason we don’t go to them is because we are usually working as most of our work is done at the weekends.
With regard to the cost of my socials making it not a munch - what the hell difference does it make - this event at the hotel was a four course meal for - which I think is a very good deal - you get what you pay for mostly in this life. If people want something a little special, then it has to be paid for. I will stress that not one penny profit was made from any of my socials, the hotel charged £15 for the meal per head, which is what people paid. There was also entertainment, which I covered, and there was also a lot of time, effort and cost to the event, which I covered.
I think we have already established the difference between a munch and a social, and my hotel event was certainly within the guidelines of a munch even though it was a bit more expensive - a car is a car whether it’s a BMW or a mini.
Goldsmith
xx
Quote by Freckledbird
From 'what is a munch':
'A munch is a purely social event held in a totally neutral environment'
So by that definition, Goldsmith's dinners in an hotel could, I suppose, be classed as a munch, as long as they are open to all members with no restrictions on types of member, ie. single males. You can't have a munch and say 'couples only', for example.

Exactly my point, at my event, everyone was welcome, we had singles, couples, CD's etc there and all were sh members, and it wasnt a playing environment, but it was deemed not to be classed as a munch, which would have been nice as it could have been stickied. I did wonder why at the time, but was told that it wasnt so.
I feel much better now its clearer. Thanks xx
Goldsmith
xx
Quote by Sara_2006
basically a munch is for 'active' sh members only and a social can be for banned members and members of another site and also non swingers etc

Thanks for that Sara, it makes it much clearer now. And it also confirms that my socials are munches as they are always and exclusively for active sh members.
I will bear that in mind next time, when I want to have my event stickied as munches lol.
Love
Goldsmith
xx
Quote by danne-gary
i prefer socials to be non playing events
they are a good way for people to get to know others with no presure of playing
and of course there can always be afterparties for playing smile

I am so pleased this thread has appeared, but I am confused (as usual) about this subject. I have just read the Munch guidlines which state:
"A munch is a purely social event held in a totally neutral environment, often somewhere like a pub, where members of Swinging Heaven get to meet each other. As there's no play involved everyone can relax which gives newbies a chance to ask questions of the more experienced without any fear of getting jumped on, and gives the regulars time to catch-up with old friends and make new ones."
The 'socials' I organise are non playing events, run on a non profit making basis, and I have asked them to be catagorised as munches in the past, mainly as they totally comply with the above guideline. But this has been refused as admin say my events are socials. This is what confuses me. I have organised events in a lovely hotel, with a 4 course dinner (which is all members pay for at cost) and entertainment, totally non playing in the actual event, but of course what people do in their booked rooms is up to them.
To this day I don't know what the difference is - is it that a social can be in the back room of a pub or function room, which members pay admission to gain entrance, and there is NO play - or is there PLAY allowed? - I have seen this on one occasion and it certainly wasnt a non-profit making event in my opinion (simple maths and all that!!) and was certainly encouraging play in a separate area of the venue.
If this is the case then what is a MUNCH? Please dont direct me back to the munch guidlines, as I have read them many times, and they still baffle me when it comes to the difference between a social and a munch.
Any light on this subject would be much appreciated.
Goldsmith
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Quote by Dawnie
Surely the answer is to have more mods that cover the times when the current ones aren't online. That way, the problem with drunken, abusive single males on a Friday night/Saturday morning wouldn't be a problem.

Correct! Although strickly speaking the OPs look after the chatroom and the Mods look after the forum. Unless its Sarge and myself that are able to do both confused
If any member wishes to speak with admin and explain why they think they might make a good OP, or Mod, please drop admin a PM or send in a support ticket and have a natter with him :thumbup:
Good idea Dawnie :thumbup:
Quote by Dawnie
I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota. rolleyes

We are just members that have buttons that log in and out the same way you do so I'm confused. Why would be need to log in on a rota when you don't need to?
Its not a paid role. Its not like having a job so how can you set talking to mates to a rota dunno
DG, I'll talk to you in 3 weeks then the rota clashes :giggle:
Ahh, thats where I am obviously mistaken, I was under the impression that mods and ops were there, in their given capacity, to make sure the site runs smoothly as well as having their own fun too. This is obviously not the case, again my mistake. wink
Quote by Dirtygirly
There's a list of the chat room ops here. It might be worth adding them to your favourites so you can see when they're on line. ;-)

I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota. rolleyes
Did you actually need an op at or are you just rolling your eyes for fun?! dunno
I was in the pub! :mrgreen: Didn't realise I had to schedule it in with you before I went... I'll be sure to let you know what I'm doing tomorrow! wink
I dont think that remark was necessary at all. All I was saying, is that it was mentioned that we perhaps should save ops profiles in our favourites so we could get hold of someone when needed. And that at the time I did this, there were none online. That's all!
No I didnt need an op at the time, but after I added you all, I checked the list, and noticed none were about. Nothing more than an observation really - and certainly nothing that warrants such a sarcastic response.
I am aware that you all do it voluntarily, and its admirable that you do. Keep up the good work
:wink:
Quote by Cubes
There's a list of the chat room ops here. It might be worth adding them to your favourites so you can see when they're on line. ;-)

I added them all, at , and not one were online, isnt there some sort of rota. rolleyes
Quote by Hooters
Goldies rooms are always good for banter, which I enjoy (not to mention her and Jo's gorgeous cleavages ! ) biggrin
Of course I enjoy the cams , especially the newish abaility to see more than one cam. But I do enjoy the banter that does go on. Whispers are also a good feature if used properly.
I do find it annoying if you say hi to somebody specific , and they dont bother replying even if theyre still in the room. What do they think were going to do ?! Saying hello back doesnt mean they have to have sex with you ! (or maybe it does and Im too innocent to know)
One feature Ive asked for is the ability to see what room one of your friends or favourites is actually in. Shame they havent managed to do that yet .

Thanks Hooters. and you're always welcome, as are all the nice people on sh.
Goldsmith
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Quote by Hooters
Goldies rooms are always good for banter, which I enjoy (not to mention her and Jo's gorgeous cleavages ! ) biggrin
Of course I enjoy the cams , especially the newish abaility to see more than one cam. But I do enjoy the banter that does go on. Whispers are also a good feature if used properly.
I do find it annoying if you say hi to somebody specific , and they dont bother replying even if theyre still in the room. What do they think were going to do ?! Saying hello back doesnt mean they have to have sex with you ! (or maybe it does and Im too innocent to know)
One feature Ive asked for is the ability to see what room one of your friends or favourites is actually in. Shame they havent managed to do that yet .

Thanks Hooters. and you're always welcome, as are all the nice people on sh.
Goldsmith
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Quote by Martin_M
Im sorry your statement is incorrect ALL profiles are private at the moment unless you are a member (they are not publically visable on the net). ALL galleries are restricted to over 18+ members. Free joined up members get to see Non adult thumbnails only. And EVERY member has a private gallery AND private on upload feature.
Everything on the WHOLE site used to be public to ANYONE anywhere on the net without even being a member. That included every single picture on the site!. Log out and have a look around it will confirm the above.

I did say you had to be a member, although free members are what I was talking about, those who just join to look at who is on the site. And yes I was mistaken about the adult content pics being visible, but the point remains that anyone with internet access can join, and for free, and look at non adult pics that are not in private as well as your profile content. So I suppose the answer is to make your pics all private. Because face pics are openly visible if in the public gallerly on your profile.
Quote by Martin_M
We removed public net access to profiles etc.

No you didnt, anyone who is just looking and not willing to join as a full member can just register as a free member and see all profiles and photos that aren't in a private gallery. This IS public access to anyone who has access to the internet. All it takes is five minutes to register as a free member and you can see the lot. Even though the photos are thumbnails, they and the full profiles can be seen.
Quote by st3v3

The most worrying thing for me is the fact that people who join as free members with limited access can also see the profiles and photos that arent in private galleries, albeit the smaller versions. I understand that a lot of members don't know about this. I think sh should rectify this immediately, as its open to all sorts of abuse.
Goldsmith

That is correct and one of the reasons that the folder is named Public, this is a topic that has been discussed a few times in the past.
Still not good though, for all and sundry to be able to see them, public should mean public to all full members, not the whole world.
Quote by two-4-more
So far as Private Pics go they won't show up in the search or gallery.
If the option to "Allow other members to calculate their distance from me:" is set to No in My Account then your photo's won't show up if someone selects photos within 3 miles or one of the other distance options.
If you log out and click the Gallery tab you get to see a full page of pics, so now you don't even have to be a member of the site to perv at members pics.

Thats always been the way, you would only ever see one page of pics and only thumbnails at that.
no mention of offering us any other settings to control how our pictures are use....
The most worrying thing for me is the fact that people who join as free members with limited access can also see the profiles and photos that arent in private galleries, albeit the smaller versions. I understand that a lot of members don't know about this. I think sh should rectify this immediately, as its open to all sorts of abuse.
Goldsmith
Thanks Cad, and what room is your room, I will come and say hi sometime.
Goldsmith
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Quote by The_Cad
Goldsmith can join my room any time as well......
that would be a very interesting room....
Wooppee - at last a post in the chatroom lounge that warrants some interest. Thanks minx. xx
I like all sorts of rooms depending on what mood I am in, and as long as people are actually chatting and there is some banter going on I am quite happy.
I do like debates in the chatrooms though, it gets peoples emotions going. So I suppose the general chatrooms are best for this, and my own room of course, which I open most evenings on server 2 (plug). lol
On the other hand I hate those rooms where is appears that nobody is actually chatting - total silence - not even a 'hi' I am sure they are all whispering, but it still gives the appearance that they are either asleep, dead or just plain ignorant. lol
Goldsmith xxxxx
Well what can I say but WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
You know what I mean lol
Goldsmith
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It was great to see everyone that attended the social at Libertys, and thank you all for your lovely comments and for your company yesterday.
Love
Goldsmith
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Nah! it will be ok, even if it pisses down we will have a great time, the club is fab, with or without good weather.
Quote by little_miss1967
Woooohoooo, i'm booked :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

looking forward to seeing you little_miss. I am ordering sunshine too for the garden.
Love
Goldsmith
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Quote by midsprincess
can we come please

Yes of course, i am sending you a pm so you know how to book with the club.
Look forward to seeing you
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Quote by Bear69
hi goldsmith can you put our names on list please thanks mr mrs shagg xxxxxxxxx

ooooooooo mines a large voddy cool
and mine's a large one too lol
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Quote by shagg
hi goldsmith can you put our names on list please thanks mr mrs shagg xxxxxxxxx

Done thanks, i have pm'd you too with booking info.
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Those on the list, who still havent booked for the Libertys social, who are still interested would you please let me know, so I can assess the numbers please.
Thanks
Goldsmith
Quote by Kt242
hi been wanting to go to Libertys for ages - single lady here - can I come please?

Yes of course you can come,I am sending you details by pm xxxx
Goldsmith
Quote by TavsnScamp
Is anybody thiking of staying over at Libertys???

Some might, not sure, the rooms are great though and very comfy. If you need to stay over, just give the club a call i am sure they will be as helpful as always.
Love
Goldsmith
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Quote by shad
Thanks guys and we never saw any of our boys in blue either, the places we went were totally deserted and devoid of any activity whatsoever. And yes we were on recognised dogging car parks.
We normally never pre arrange meets either prefering the classic of what if were being watched approach. This has always worked for us in the past and is what dogging was meant to be about in our opinion.

Perhaps they saw the SIGN lol
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