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gothicpunk
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Non-binary, 60
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Quote by gingerjo-lee
hiya gothic
shame i dont know you sad
chams is in west mids
and upto now im going with meggo smile
thanks jo x

I am sure you could get to know me one day - I occasionally have been known to go to socials - I am usually the one who looks like he's supposed to be at some goth club somewhere. ;>
Quote by flower411
You start enabling parents with offering them free practical cookery lessons, supported with the input of a chef and a dietician, and you make healthy food cheaper, and you take into account cultural and nutritional needs.
You stop blaming parents, you stop relying on schools to sort out problems that stem from home.
You stop worrying about the kids that are a bit overweight but otherwise healthy. This society seems to hate obesity even where it is not a health issue, you value people for who they are and if there is a health issue then you you help them to overcome that through information, advice and real, practical help.
You involve dads as well as mums.
You don't patronise people but actively try to help and educate them, and you make it easy for people to afford to feed thier families good wholesome healthy food instead of sugar and salt laden convenience foods.
That's what I'd do, anyways :>

In my experience, healthy foods are cheap already.
But people are fixated with shopping in supermarkets where the fruit and vegetables are picked for their colour, size and shape, thus making them expensive !!
Go to any market or farm shop and you`ll find "real" odd shaped fruit and vegetables, with some bruises and Heaven forbid !!! some of the tomatoes might be different sizes !!!
Try to educate people into shopping in places where they can`t buy televisions and apples in the same shop and if they say thay haven`t got the time, tell em to get up earlier or maybe switch the television off !!
Spot on smile
When I have run cookery lessons for parents, I always take them shopping first. The looks on people's faces when we cook enough food to feed 10 people for under a fiver from fresh ingredients is always a winner.
You start enabling parents with offering them free practical cookery lessons, supported with the input of a chef and a dietician, and you make healthy food cheaper, and you take into account cultural and nutritional needs.
You stop blaming parents, you stop relying on schools to sort out problems that stem from home.
You stop worrying about the kids that are a bit overweight but otherwise healthy. This society seems to hate obesity even where it is not a health issue, you value people for who they are and if there is a health issue then you you help them to overcome that through information, advice and real, practical help.
You involve dads as well as mums.
You don't patronise people but actively try to help and educate them, and you make it easy for people to afford to feed thier families good wholesome healthy food instead of sugar and salt laden convenience foods.
That's what I'd do, anyways :>
I am not really worried if the powers that be know that I like Gary Numan, Judge Dredd and shagging.
They can listen in and log all my activities if they want. I am proud that I can be a complete geek and still get laid.
It doesn't scare me that they can log information if they want, I'm just surprised they'd want to. It scared me more that they can obviously log my movements if I drive a car... those cameras aren't just for speeding, they're there so the government know I go to heavy metal clubs, and I am worried they will tell people I do air guitar...
All this silliness is just really to point out that most people need not be worried about the hard fact that, yes, whaat you say and do, and where you go, can indeed be logged. But the authorites are very unlikely to be even slightly interested and it would only really be if they had cause to investigate you that any of this stuff would even be looked at at all. That bit may be scary, as if they were to investigate me for, say, interest in violence, they would discover that I play GTA4 and like to discuss the finer points of which type of zombies enjoy eating brains.
No, and they aren't going to cook either, if they have not been used to good home cooking at home. Schools are not home, and are not as important as home, and can not have the same effect on a child's life as home experience does.
Blaming parents is wrong, enabling parents is much better.
We need to teach parents how to cook again - it's all very well teaching cookery at school but it isn't the kids who make the tea.
I'd offer but you don't know me, plus i don't even know where Chameleons is...
But hope you get someone to take you :>
Quote by splendid_
you are asking the guys ?? mmm well I aint a guy but I can tell you what attracts me to a profile
Something well written with interests and likes presented clearly. What the man is looking for, someone who is picky always gets my attention. The 'would meet anyone not fussy' profiles gets looked over as the person looks desperate.
a torso shot (dressed preferably). A face shot is lovely but not necessary on the profile.
mmmm but also have a search on here for help as there has been loads and loads and loads and loads and loads (get the picture) of people asking this.
as for securing a meet... well, that takes time.
have fun

So I can't just pm you and go, 'Hubba Hubba' then?
I am going to have to try and rethink my tactics :>
In answer to the original question, though - I think you need to try and let your personality shine through - on the forums, on your profile etc. as that can only help.
I have quoted Splendid here as her profile says loads about her. Mine doesn't at the moment but then I'm forever changing it and adding and removing pictures. There is a lot of good advice on this thread, so good luck smile
It's just a shame that Penistone is pronounced Penny-ston. If I were from there I'd call it Penis Town at every given opportunity.
But then, I have the sense of humour of an eight year old.
Roses are read
Measles are spotty
You have a face
That's incredibly grotty
I love you looks
I love your lips
But I'd swap you for
A bag of fish and chips...
Er... I'm still on the thread about the daft rhymes we had as kids, right?
Just download all your illegal copyrighted stuff at someone elses house.
Er, I mean, don't do it.
What is a crime stringent area?
Talking from experience? I live on an estate in Salford where I have been told, 'Ooooh, the busses won't go onto that estate because of the gangs'. I work in Moss Side with kids on the child protection register. I have some experience with living with antisocial behaviour and with kids who cause it or who are accused of causing it. I have to walk through gangs of teens asking me to buy them fags and booze every time i want to nip to the shops to buy a pint of milk, and I ahve to tell them, 'No', because if I did buy them that stuff and got caught I'd be putting my career at risk.
But I still respect teenagers - including the ones who hang out thinking they are looking hard in thier track suits, drunk on half a bottle of blue wicked.
Because I have been there - I am not too proud to admit that, as a teen, I would hang out on the streets with my mates. We would sit on walls and occasionally spit. We would smoke fags and talk loudly. No doubt people felt intimidated by us... but we absolutely did not intend to scare people. We were just hanging out, that was all. Three of us were doing voluntary work with older people with disibilities. There was just nothing else to do (that old chestnut).
We couldn't go to the youth club because the youth club was full of knobheads who would have battered us. We couldn't go to the park because the parkies had banned anyone over 14, and would chase us out even though we weren't there to cause trouble, and we couldn't stay at home because we were too cool to hang out with our parents, who sucked and didn't understand us.
I'm not sure it's so different these days - sure, teenagers have far less taste in music and clothing these days than the people I hung out with had, but that's only natural - they _have_ to like stuff that my generation hate - that's the rules.
But there is still nowhere to go for the average teen, the older generations are still in fear of all of them because there are a few who are arseholes, and thier dumb little uniforms (hoodies) are still in the papers just like in my day (when it was the skinheads who were the problem... but we did look better than teens do these days...)
I am not saying that teenagers hanging around estates do not cause any trouble. I am saying, though, that they're not all bad.
Quote by Sarah
We Three Kings Of Orient Are,
One in a taxi, one in a car,
One on a scooter bibbing his hooter,
Smoking a big cigar!
There was another verse but I cannot remember it redface
There was another one involving biscuits, (clubs, taxi, penguin) but I cannot remember that either!

OMG that tales me right back! I had no recollection of that at all till just now biggrin
I have noticed that, if you were to substitute the word 'teenagers' (or 'Kids', or Yobboes', or 'Little scrotes' or 'hoodies' or whatever)in a lot of the posts on this thread (including mine) with the word 'kittens', the thread would not only be be funnier, but there may be some sort of light thrown on the whole 'tarring all teens with the same brush' thing that society tends to do. Or something. possibly.
Here goes:
Quote by Freckledbird

Because i am advocating it as a deterante just as i use my burgular alarm to protect my investment.
Everyone goes on about the rights of the kittens, young cats etc etc what about my right as a human being to live with out fear and prejudice
So if you denie me this item to protect my investment then my human rights are being violated.
And yes i live in a very nice area which unfortuantly has a park which is where oll the kittens not from my road but all the one the other side of town sit and snort catnip till the early hours.
Between myself, dory and our house mate we have had seven motorcycle stolen, all found in the possesion of kittens.
So wheres my human rights then

Nobody's questioning your right to have a burglar alarm. If it makes you feel better, have the alarm. Your human rights are not being violated.
The device in question (on this thread) emits a sound at a pitch which is distressing for most cats under 1 year old. It's one thing having it as a deterrent outside somewhere that it will work against possible troublemakers. It's quite another thing, causing distress to kittens who have no option than to go where their parents take them.
Just because your bikes were in the possession of kittens, does not mean that all kittens are suspect. If the kittens are snorting catnip, report them. If they're making a nuisance of themselves, or committing a crime, they'll be moved. If not, leave them alone.
Quote by tyracer
problem is gang of yobs know the law, and know they cannot be touched just moved on.

And that is the problem. If a crime is committed, moving the perpertrator/s on is no solution or deterrent, and does indeed create the next problem -
Quote by tyracer
And once moved on,they retrun within 5 minutes with missles or other weapons because they have been its not just boys.

Yes, this whole 'we hate grasses' culture is particularly fucked up. Criminals need to be arrested and charged and brought to justice in a fair and consistant manner. The difficulty is, is making that happen.
Quote by tyracer
Im telling only way people understand you are pissed off with intimidation is when a fist or object strikes them hard and puts them down.

Now here is where I cannot agree. What can and does happen then is that you get into a spiral of violence that does nobody any good. A kick in the teeth may feel like natural justice, but you'll just get kicked back - usually by more of them. Worse, you'll kick an innocent one to within an inch of his (or her - as you said, it's not just the boys) life, becasue you have no way of knowing the person you are beating up is actually guilty of anything other than your word ('everyone knew he had it coming... 'he was a bad type.... what did he do? Oh, y'know... bad stuff. Everyone is saying it')
Quote by tyracer
Words do not work with these type of people.
Thank yourself lucky shop owners and householders do not have the right to bear arms.

Or, indeed, to arm bears
Quote by tyracer
Because these aggressors would be delt with and the police reduced to bin men picking them up off the facts people! We are in this position because the good people of the land do not have a voice and the criminals single do-gooder backs laws which prevents a person defending themselves and letting the criminal get away with murder.

I'm actually quite happy that 'do gooders' back laws that prevent mob rule, which is what you appear to be calling for here.
Quote by tyracer
Gary newlove's killing should be the wake up call we all need to not only go after this yobs with force but also drive the parents out of the community which let their children run riot.

Drive the parent out and what happens? They have to live somewhere. You just move the problem onto another estate. We do need stronger laws to take the criminals off the streets, we do need parents to take more responsibility for the behaviour of thier children, and we do need solutions, but gangs of vigilantees kicking people's heads in aint it. That's just more crime.
Quote by tyracer
Once a few hoodies and alike have had such a beating the words spreads and people who seek to behave in an anti-social will walk in fear with one eye looking over the shoulder waiting for it to happen.

Or, once a few violent criminals have been locked away for periods befitting the nature of thier crimes, the rest of thier mates will think twice about committing similar crimes. I am a firm believer that gangs who beat people up should be charged with attempted murder - every individual involved in the beating, that is - and the sentencing should be harsh. _that_ is the only way to get the message across that - hey - it's _not_ OK to do that. Having local teens in fear of a beating at the hands of a mob of angry residents is no solution to anything.
Quote by tyracer
And any newsagent or shop which sales alcohol to the people involved with the crimes should face the same charge that relates to the offence committed.

Or, y'know, use the laws that already exist and actually prosecute these shopkeepers under those laws.
I do understand that people are pissed off with being in fear of gangs, and I do agree that solutions need to be found, but I just don't agree that all teenagers are criminals and I don't believe in a solution which says, 'Kick thier fucking heads in, it's the only language they understand'. We need a solution that is lawful and just and transparent and predictable.
If I were a caterpillar
Life would be a farce
I'd climb up all the shrubs and trees
and slide down on my
Hands and knees
--
Mary had a little lamb
she thought it rather silly
she threw it in the air one day
and caught it by its...
Willy was a watchdog
lying in the grass
along came a bumblebee
and stung him on his...
Ask no questions
tell no lies
Once I saw a policeman
doing up his...
Flies are a nuisance
Bees are worse
That's the end
of my clean verse
--
Mary had a brand new bike
She rode it back to front
But every time she pulled the brake
The seat went up her...
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You know, if society were to actually enforce the laws that exist already, rather than just allowing those who want to to run riot, then surely that would go some way to making the streets feel safer.
Kids have always 'hung around' - it seems to just be something teenagers do - standing outside shops in the rain in January may not sound too much fun but most kids do it or have done it, without causing any trouble. It's just that the sight of it can be scary for others even if they don't intend any trouble. The solution lies, I feel, in making the streets feel safe again for people even _with_ teenagers hanging around - we need to learn to accept that teens exist and that just because they are outside the chippy that doesn't automatically mean they are going to steal your chips. To do this, we need to remove the influence of the few teenagers who seem to delight in creating havock. This means desling with any actual crime committed swifly and appropriately, whilst acknowledging the right of teenagers to stand around being bored in the time honoured tradition. That, or investing in youth clubs that teenagers actually want to go to, that are open when they need to go there.
The majority of young people are decent and don't go causing trouble. Why penalise them for the actions of a few cocky little knob heads?
That advert is creepy. But smelling like chocolate doesn't seem do bad - it's just I'd rather smell of chocolate through eating about 10 bars of Galaxy.
Quote by keeno
Just remembered a song from my youth
Trumpton Riots - Half Man Half Biscuit oh happy days

Hhehehehe
Now I have to listen to that!
'Someone get a message through to Captain Snort
That they'd better start assembling the boys from the fort
And keep Mrs Honeyman right out of sight
Cos there's gonna be a riot down in Trumpton tonight'
classic biggrin
Never seen Life on Mars or Ashes to Ashes. I probably will at some point, if just for the music.
Quote by splendid_
But, if I did do it, and it was a female person doing the fucking, then that would not to me count as a bi experience. It might if I was sucking someones willy whist she was doing it, though :}

Could we test run that? you know, just for research purposes? wink
Well, I'm all for encouraging research and furthering the pursuit of knowledge...
Labels are so restrictive, but they'ye a handy barometer for figuring out what kind of chance you may have with someone :>
A liking for anal shennanigans doesn't make someone bi, though. I'm bi and I don't recieve anal from anyone ever as I have found that I do not like it - it's not a hang up, not a denial of the gay side of my sexuality (and for those who know me, it's not as if I make any effort whatsoever to deny or disguise my sexuality), it just has nothing to do with anything other than it hurts. But, if I did do it, and it was a female person doing the fucking, then that would not to me count as a bi experience. It might if I was sucking someones willy whist she was doing it, though :}
That was fun!
Thanks Easy smile
Great to see everyone again (everyone looked fab and Gem was as gorgeous as ever) and all those new people I was gabbing to as well. I had the hots for all of you biggrin There were some people I wanted to meet but didn't, and, um, other stuff. It was a great night.
Maybe, or maybe they just come back out of morbid curiosity? Happens to me all the time...
If you have enjoyed yourself and your partner seems happy, then you're probably a good fuck.
If someone comes back for more, you must be a _fantastic_ shag :>
Hah!
Bunch of wankers!
Erm...
there is nothing abnormal about masturbation - sex drives between two people vary and sometimes one partner is horny when the other is not, or sometimes someone comes first (I'm sorry but I can't spell it as 'cums' without thinking i am writing for a readers wives mag).
i think it is perfectly healthy in a sexual relationship to be considerate of the non-comee as it were and to ensure thier pleasure after the intercourse is done, if that makes any sense at all.
Sometimes the hand is better than anything else and other times other bits are preferable, but so long as the relationship is happy then everything is good.