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the arab spring was anything but arab. the arab spring was launched from the cia headquarters in virginia and mubarak was a target because he refused to sanction egyptian troops to support the coalitian of the willing (iraq) and his last transgression was to refuse to support the ouster of ghaddaffi. morsi (muslim brotherhood, british intelligence creature created in the 1920's) was willing and also backed the jihad to oust the secular government of syria, once part of the arab syrian egyptian state under nasser. morsi led the charge to evict syria from the arab league and supported qatar, bharain and saudi arabia in arming the jihadist mercenary death squads imported from all over the middle east from morocco to indonesia paid $150 a week to create mayhem, , death and distruction in syria. not only did he not carry out his promise to raise the standard of living of ordinary egytians but he made it many times worse by introducing imf dictates of removing state subsidies and controls on cooking oil, wheat, bread, rice and petrol.
it is a military coup but the army had their own gripes. morsi, in declaring jihad against syria had declared that the army, for the first time in its history should be deployed abroad to topple assad. whilst the generals, si si included may have been willing to keep their american dollars they know that the middle management (colenals and captains (officer corp)) would revolt.
the generals are trying to stay popular with the masses to head off revolution because they know the cat is out of the bag.
morsi was elected by twitter and facebook (western intel) and the egyptians have cottoned on to "the arab spring" along with many millions of others in the middle east and around the world.
ed snowden has revealed nothing that is'nt already known and well documented. research echelon
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one search, 30 seconds, 4th link ..... 97% seems fairly comprehensive to me; so whether you or anyone else 'thinks' it true or not it would appear that those who actually have some chance of 'knowing' (all that studying and stuff) disagree with you
Now I'm an avowed athiest , but I really hope that when I die ,if I should happen to find myself standing infront of a large set of pearly gates I wont still be saying that all that God stuff is just the work of a bunch of medieval fantasists..... it would just look a bit foolish
oh and by the way ..... OBLATE SPHEROID

now i'm an uncovertable athiest so i know i wont be allowed through any mythical pearly gates and to most others i am foolish. i wish to remain so and dont like smarties
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Because the case for climate change is not being made by government -most if not all of whom are in the pockets of oil companies,who's interests aren't served by the debate- but by Scientists : the idea that climate change is a revenue/warmongering construct is contradictory to say the least

climate change equals carbon tax equals revenue
scientists who's research is being funded by goldman sachs ref "east anglia university corrupting data to show global warming when the earth is actually cooling"
goldman sachs owns the first trading desk in chicago that trades in carbon tax offsets
governments put carbon taxes on your energy bills
international oil companies pay very little tax but collect it on behalf of governments.
the sun and its cycles (solar cycles) has infinitely more effect on global temperatures and pails mans consumption of carbon fuels effect into insignificance by comparison.
the reduction in consumption worldwide of carbon based fossil fuels due to the worldwide downturn in activity due to the economic crisis (approx 30%) is far greater than the change to more greaner energy.
the case for climate change is not being made by governments ? really staggers, you amaze me.
if you take a continent like africa and reduce its carbon footprint, you will commit mass genocide.
So on the strength of one company allegedly funding one research project you condemn all the other scientists working in the field ?? Well so much for balanced reasoned argument .....
Governments pay lip service to the idea of carbon taxes whilst charging to grab any remaining fossil fuel;,Iraq,Afghanistan,and Libya are Cases in point not fought for any reasons of climate change but in the rush to grab oil,you've heard of Haliburton I'm sure,so who holds the reins ??Goldman Sachs? Haliburton? Some shadowy figure who can not be named??
Yes government likes an excuse to tax something ... this in no way discredits those many scientists/climatologists who believe mankind is having a severely detrimental effect on the planets climate .I strongly suggest you look at the vastly different nature of scientific debate and political rhetoric .. One requires facts figures and evidence the other merely whatever I'll informed contradictory opinion one cares to spew out
I don't think you'll find many climatologists who would deny the effect of many natural cycles on our climate I suggest that you'll find many who would tell you that human activity is an accelerator and amplifier of many of these effects ... The argument is not that any one thing acts alone but that the sum of many things act in concert.
I'm glad to amaze you ...I'd also be glad to see where any government has done anything other make 'appropriate' noises about climate change and actually followed through with action
Africa...should you care to look most proposals on carbon emissions actually allow for an increase in emissions from third world countries.
Climate change is a SCIENTIFIC theory it has not been disproved by counter theory in fact very few of those working in the field have found reason to contradict it .... In short any political debate attempting 'disprove' any SCIENTIFIC theory is worthless, we are not dealing with opinion but with evidence .... You're coming at it from totally the wrong angle, or do you want to tell me how Keynes disproves string theory ?? You are not alone in your amazement .... See that way over there on the Sun ? That little spot? That's the point .... See by how far you're missing it?
sorry staggers, i do not accept that all other scientists or many of them subscribe to global warming/climate change or, verified it,as a consequence of mans activity, then why did the united nations centrte for global climate studies, funded by goldman sachs (the east anglia university) corrupt the data collected worldwide to show global warming as exposed at the copenhagen conference.
one of the issues that arose was that the third world would not be exempt from a reduction in carbon emissions.
i will be glad for us to agree to differ staggers as it maintains the dedate. i believe it to be a con, you believe it to be true based on proven scientific theory. lets hope we both live long enough to find out which one of us is right. regards
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Because the case for climate change is not being made by government -most if not all of whom are in the pockets of oil companies,who's interests aren't served by the debate- but by Scientists : the idea that climate change is a revenue/warmongering construct is contradictory to say the least

climate change equals carbon tax equals revenue
scientists who's research is being funded by goldman sachs ref "east anglia university corrupting data to show global warming when the earth is actually cooling"
goldman sachs owns the first trading desk in chicago that trades in carbon tax offsets
governments put carbon taxes on your energy bills
international oil companies pay very little tax but collect it on behalf of governments.
the sun and its cycles (solar cycles) has infinitely more effect on global temperatures and pails mans consumption of carbon fuels effect into insignificance by comparison.
the reduction in consumption worldwide of carbon based fossil fuels due to the worldwide downturn in activity due to the economic crisis (approx 30%) is far greater than the change to more greaner energy.
the case for climate change is not being made by governments ? really staggers, you amaze me.
if you take a continent like africa and reduce its carbon footprint, you will commit mass genocide.
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carbon tax. carbon tax offsets. goldman sachs. global warming. climate change. copenhagen. cat out of the bag. carbon footprint. glaciers melting. icecaps reducing. oceans rising.
absolute total load of bollox serving a political/taxation/population reduction agenda.
psuedo science bullshit.
totally proven in the collapse of the copenhagen accord when the russians challenged the data created by the u.n.'s centre for climate change studies at the east anglia universities goldman sachs funded research centre as having been corrupted and not the data that was collected.
i say again, if you reduce the carbon footprint of a continent like africa (reduce coal, parafin, diesel and any other manner of fossil fuel consumption), where the vast majority live at just subsistance level, you will kill them by the millions.
mans growth in numbers is directly proportionate to his increase in energy flux density per square mile/killometer and any decrease in that density will reduce the population.
now which naive phuckers amongst us is going to choose who is going to live and who is going to die ? none of us, the ruling elite will decide and you aint one of them !
note :- not conspiracy theory, not off a conspiracy website just common sense

Soo a long delay for response but ....as far as common sense goes,why ? Why does anyone imagine that the powers that be have to invent a global catastrophe to justify taxes ?? They never have before, why would they feel the need to invent a global catastrophe to justify wars and genocide?? They never have before. Why does anyone feel that world governments and their paymasters feel any urge whatsoever to justify their actions ? Sorry gulson but sometimes you do seem to have that gun pointed squarely at your foot
global warming is now changed to "climate change"
wether (pun) it be climate change, the war on terror, poor ole "democracy seeking" armed syrian rebels from all over the middle east, europe, chechnia, england or america fighting the badies who we should continue arming, training and paying al la "al nursra and al ciader" and supporting with a safe haven "no fly zone" on the jordanian border inside syria al la "libya" is all lies and deceptions in the interests of a global geopolitical stratergy to maintain western and american hegemony.
the latest lie and deception being the claim that the syrian regime has used chemical weapons against its own people. why would the assad regime do that when they are in the accendency in the war against the foreign backed murderous mercenaries who even resort to canabilism ? total mass media propaganda and lies. why would william haig, darling of margeret thatcher give a fuck about the syrian people when he has never given a fuck about the british people ? he does'nt.
because the breakup and disintergration of the syrian state and its degeneration into sectarian religeous violence serves the intersts (divide and rule) of western governments and corporations to and pillage natural resources and contain russian, indian and chinese trade with occupation or a compliant (slave puppet)regime on the way to taking out iran.
throughout history, all governments of all colours have propagandised with lies and deceptions to gain popular support for expansion into and subjugation of countries and their peoples for economic power and control. look up sarkozy's ex foreign minister saying "he discussed war in syria for regime change with british officials 4 years ago"
was the world not told by colin powell at the united nations that iraq had weapons of mass destruction ? were you not told that 17 saudi's and 1 kuwaiti carried out 9/11 so they invaded afghanistan ? were you not told that ghaddaffi was bombing his own people but the russians with observing satellites say that they observed no evidence of that? were you not told by al gore that the seas would rise and most coastal towns would be submerged while he bought a 5 million dollar house on the san francisco sea front ?
were you not told that if you ring the doctor or n.h.s. helpline and tell them you sneezed that you would be diagnosed by the non clinical answerer that you had avian/swine sumthin flu, not to answer the door and youir prescription would be passed through the letter box ?
governments make policy and decisions in the interests of the most powerful interests in society not the interests of society if and when they can get away with it.
the "new labour" party privatised air traffic control, introduced tuition fees (debt) and privatised the infrastructure of schools and education, the n.h.s. and all manner of state operated activity through the "private finance initiative"
in who's interests did that serve, the people or the city of london's spiv's and bankers ?
tory bliar said we gotta go to war cos saddam could hit british interests in cyprus in 45 minuets with weapons of mass destruction.
cameron and haig say we gotta take assad out cos he's gassing his own people.
lies lies lies again.
i could write reams and reams of proven lies by these murderous theives and decievers and so could you staggers so why do you believe anything they say ?
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There are three sides fighting in Syria two are Syrian and one comprises foreign nationals, I think it would be a mistake to withdraw support for the FSA and the chance of any future influence on them because they are being infiltrated by other it would be more helpful to support them and hopefully be in a position later to assist them in forming a secular a non interventionist policy would do is leave us with shit on our hands and nothing to show for it

staggers, syria is a secular state and you are now in the same camp as israel (bombing syria a week ago) cameron and obama. the same side as qatar and saudi arabia.
staggers you are mistaken about the fsa being indegenous syrians. the overwhelming majiority of killed and captured fighters (in my veiw terrorists) are NON SYRIAN. sourcees :- rt, anna, cnn, independent, guardian.
they are financed by the west and puppet arab states with an agenda in the interests of the world superpower and not the interests of the syrians - alawites, christian, sunny or shia (secular).
israels intervention by bombing (supposed weapons bound for hezbola) is to support the failing western mercenary intervention.
the acclaimed chemical attack that western media and government spokesmen (including obama with his red line in the sand) ascribed to the assad regime, that the mainstream media has gone quiet about the u.n. has found no evidence was carried out by the regime but on the contrary, was carried out by the insugents in an attempt to blame the regime and encourage western intervention openly. under al qader, al nursra there would be no secular state but a return to sharia and the annialation of the sizable christian community.
these are no freedom fighters. they target civilians and carry out all manner of atrocities in the name of alah. if the west was so concerned about freedom and democracy, why do they allow the states of saudi arabia, qatar and bahrain to exist ? for that matter, why do they allow the israelis to maintain the biggest concentration camp in the world - gaza, and treat the palestinians so ? if western governments with blood on their hands cry freedom and democracy look deeper staggers. your cleverer than this.
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I`ve been told that I post in here with "hidden agendas" .
Now, I find this a little hard to understand as I generally think that my views are pretty clear cut in most cases but I thought I`d post this for those who find my posts unclear.
1. I believe the USA has and still does finance and promote terrorism throughout the world. I believe that they are not above financing and promoting terrorism within the USA when it suits political ends.
2. I abhor ignorant bigots who look to blame everything except themselves for their problems.
3. I am horrified that the powers that be are unable to give accurate figures about immigration into this country. I think an open door policy is wrong and that proper records should be kept and criminals should be jailed or deported.
4. I like doughnuts and I don`t see calling somebody a Doughnut as particularly derogatory.
5. I`m not a big fan of the Royal Family but I suspect that in a fight I probably wouldn`t be lining up with the republicans !
6. I do not see all people as being equal and I do not think all people should be treated equally .
7. I do not believe that capitalism is bad in itself but I do think that people with money should be philanthropic. Social responsibility should work from the top down and this does beg the question as to just how much money a person needs before they become voluntarily generous like Warren Buffet for example.
8. I think that voting for any of the current political parties in this country is a waste of time because ultimately they all dance to the same tune.
9. I strongly believe that democracy has failed and that the election of the parliament puppets is at the whim of the unintelligent. Don`t get me wrong, I`m not saying that everybody who votes is thick ....just the majority of them.
10. I am a spelling and grammar nazi on various internet forums and when I make typos and spelling mistakes myself, I hang my head in shame redface

hidden agenda's ? thats not a fair claim flower
everytime i post i'm accused of regurgitating from conspiracy websites or i'm from another world or talk rubbish.
i cannot accept your assumption that people on here think you have a hidden agenda more so than they do me. i absoluitely refuse to accept that posters think you have hidden any more than me or that you are any nuttier than me. now remember this, if other people agreed with you, you would be a boring fart with no independent thought and therefore you must question yourself.
now, the war on terror conducted by america and it's nato puppets err sorry allies is a total hoax to serve the interests of american hegenomy. al qaeder is cia and western intelligence and 9/11, madrid trains and 7/7 were inside jobs. the proof is out there in the mainstream media not conspiracy sites. all politicians are compromised puppets on the gravy train and those that are not dont live long.
now who is bonkers with hidden agenda's ?. i gotta be more so than you. best wishes and keep up your good work. regards
carbon tax. carbon tax offsets. goldman sachs. global warming. climate change. copenhagen. cat out of the bag. carbon footprint. glaciers melting. icecaps reducing. oceans rising.
absolute total load of bollox serving a political/taxation/population reduction agenda.
psuedo science bullshit.
totally proven in the collapse of the copenhagen accord when the russians challenged the data created by the u.n.'s centre for climate change studies at the east anglia universities goldman sachs funded research centre as having been corrupted and not the data that was collected.
i say again, if you reduce the carbon footprint of a continent like africa (reduce coal, parafin, diesel and any other manner of fossil fuel consumption), where the vast majority live at just subsistance level, you will kill them by the millions.
mans growth in numbers is directly proportionate to his increase in energy flux density per square mile/killometer and any decrease in that density will reduce the population.
now which naive phuckers amongst us is going to choose who is going to live and who is going to die ? none of us, the ruling elite will decide and you aint one of them !
note :- not conspiracy theory, not off a conspiracy website just common sense
there is no difference in practise between any of the parlimentary parties regardless what promises, pledges or manifesto's they they make. government policy is NOT decided by politicians.
well documented, al qaeder means data base. the data base of the mujahadeen fighters, trained and financed by the cia under the foreign policy formulated by zibignew brezinski under ronald reagan. these fighters come from all over the middle east not just afghanistan. they are paid mercenaries from saudi arabia (hence the bin laden family connection), chechyna, pakistan, libya, qatar, bahrain and egypt. they have been used in egypt, tunisia, libya, iraq, chechnya and afghanistan. this is a fact, not my "world" and is well documanted. at present they are in syria trying to overthrow the existing sovereign government under the guise of freedom fighters with the total supprt of the west and arab puppet states al la saudi arabia, qatar and turkey. very democratic states whose rulers (kept in power by the west) have excellent human rights records.
they are murderers and terrorists financed, trained and armed by the west.
at no point did osama bin laden change sides and at no point did the west stop financing and arming, oh and transporting al qaeder.
al qaeder was set up, trained, armed and financed by the cia, nato and the west in 1979 to weigh down and drain the soviets in afghanistan. contrary to media reports over the last 30 years, neither they or the bin ladens ever changed sides. they are the mercenary arab battalions sent in under the guise of freedom fighters to destabilise countries and if possible justify western invasion.
this i have been reminding people on this forum for years.
the war on terror is a hoax.
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israel has bombed gaza many times, bombed and invaded lebanon many times, bombed syria and bombed the uss liberty during or rather at the beginning of the 1967 war. it even attacked and killed people on an aid ship delivering vital humanitarian aid to gaza.

just to balance things up a bit. the way you are talking gulson is to blame israel for everything.


why should israel not be able to defend itself from her aggressors?
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deliberately, haveyourdinnerdad was misquoted. he never said anything of the sort about wiping israel, i mean palestine, off the face of the earth.

nitpicking there gulson. the words he used have been studied but for many they were clear.
The Iranian presidential website stated that "the Zionist Regime of Israel faces a deadend and will under God's grace be wiped off the map," and "the Zionist Regime that is a usurper and illegitimate regime and a cancerous tumor should be wiped off the map."
now i know what that sounds like to me gulson. but then it could be just a conspiracy thingy i suppose rolleyes
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the war mongering and arab springs are products of psyops created in tel aviv, wall street and the city of london to overthrow existing regimes in the middle east to secure oil, gas and minerals for the west but more importantly, to prevent india and china from obtaining the same.

and of course gulson you have pots of evidence of this dunno
i mean reel evidence not just another of your thought processes.loon
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the figure of 9 thousand dead in syria as a result of the syrian regimes crack down on peaceful ? protesters is pure fabrication. the syrian free army is the priduct of western intelligence and special forces.

evidence please??? :jagsatwork:
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the danger does not come from iran, but western agression that the whole of the world can plainly see because the are not so inundated with with the propaganda and media control that exists here.
the greatest danger comes from a false flag (gulf of tonkin) incident perpetrated by the west/israel. not iran.

sorry gulson but the whole context of that rant without any facts or a shred of evidence except for what you think, is a massive anti Jewish rant.
of course if you can supply the evidence i am sure i will have a look, but looking back over some of your previous posts of months and years gone by, it is clear you are a ranter but when asked to supply evidence you simply cannot. i am sure that max who has asked you a million times for factual evidence, but has just been met with a wall of silence.:notes:
i for the record am not anti anything but israel as usual are called the aggressors, when they are only on many occasions acting in self defence of its borders and its peeple.
i never mentioned religeon and i am anti zionist, not anti semite as many jewish people are. well documented....the free syrian army are trained, armed and financed by america, nato and israel. al cia qaeder are formost in libya and syria.
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Can I just say, that if I ever find myself part of the majority I will have to change my mind :twisted:

so would i so that makes two of us.
So why try to convert everyone to your way of thought? dunno
convert to my way of thinking ? i have never expounded my idealogical method of thinking.
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Can I just say, that if I ever find myself part of the majority I will have to change my mind :twisted:

so would i so that makes two of us.
all selected politicians in parliament of all parties dance to the same tune as they are all compromised by the same rythm. they are all on the gravy train of financial reward to do their masters bidding.
if one spoke out, as they are all aware, they would meet with an untimely accident. they are all puppets of the same regime. international finance and banking.
they have stolen your pensions, exported your jobs, imported cheap labour, taken your taxes to subsidise their gambling and are coming for your savings/deposits al la cyprus.
this period is the greatest controlled demolition of the global economy since the introduction of the promisary note and we will get what we deserve for being so stupid and spellbound.
they will fill your minds with diversions/propaganda and blame the "other" guy. it's the immigrants fault. it's the afghans fault. it's al quaeders fault. it's the benefits claimants fault. it's the iraqi's (weapons of mass destrution) fault. it's gaddaffi's fault, it's assads fault. it's the north koreans fault. it's the e.u.s fault. it's the germans fault. it's the non taxpaying greeks fault.
the elephant is hidding in full veiw.
why have nuclear war when you can send in special forces dressed as locals, every sentence uttered " aloha akbar", target the locals, blame the regime and then bomb them back to the dark age for attacking their own people, for the sake of humanity and democracy of coarse.
korea is a conveinient diversion. look else where when the compliant presstitutes divert your attention.
america will get it's way, whatever that is, without the use of nuclear weapons by full spectrum dominance and that includes "your minds".
enjoyed a great day out at twickers yesterday even though it was cold brrr. and i'm happy to say that the better side lost thank god,
cut all benefits to the poor and increase benefits to the rich.....less cash in circulation
cut pensions, housing benefits/allowances and increase politicians expenses/fiddles.
increase banker bonuses and bank handouts and charge it to the taxpayer...at interest.
and here comes the small end of the council tax wedge....charge property tax per bedroom but exempt or ceiling it at say 6 or seven bedrooms...that way the toffs dont pay any more.
lower the threshold of inheritance tax except for assets greater than 2 million, farms or country mansions and for everybody who is going to be poorer (the bottom 98%) let them eat cake. they deserve nothing less because until we get off our fat arses and protest, nothing will change.
fortunately there are plenty of spare burgers to eat.
apparently they use duck fat to lubricate the channels the blade runs down. hollande seen in elysee with malian duck feathers in his hat an hour ago a reliable source has disclosed... it was said...it is believed...and a wooden spoon in his pocket for some unknown reason...
fortunately for bankers there is absolutely no understanding of banking, credit creation or downright fraud whatsoever in these preceding threads, as if there were, there would be a revolution by morning.
two props hold hollonde up, mario drahgi on one side and a. merkle on the other. behind him in the second row (the power behind the throne) are lazzards and de rothchilds and as any player (ex in my place) knows, the forwards will go where the second row sends them provided they are not pulled down by their own errors to keep the pack together.
the scrum half must always be in the right place and quick with ball (slight of hand), dave comes to mind, to pass the ball to the backs, open or blind side and being the middle man for the city, he can blame the forwards or backs without revealing who he is really playing for (usually himself to be "spotted") himself or the gallery.
france will lose quite a lot soon and in quick succession on and off the field if she does not see through the hollande game plan and stand firm against it. hollande is a trojan horse with left cover. vive la france.
how strange, the french beaten by players who they trained and most of whom play for french sides. mon deu, a sanc column within. french coaches need to see madame guillotine je paunse gnv ?
in the race to the bottom (devaluation) in order to remain competetive and dilute debt through inflation, a british currency crisis would pre empt any referendum. this could be the game plan particularily as merv the swerve is retiring and his replacement, the ex govenor of the bank of canada and ex goldman sachs director is due to replace him soon. think not about the interests of sterling and more of goldman sachs, the creators of the greek debt crisis, the prime minister of italy, unelected ex goldman sachs, draghi the govenor of the e.c.b. ex goldman sachs and there you have it. no soveregnty and bankers rule in their interests.
a sterling crisis is in the plan. cameron, clegg, miliband balls an all are all just willing stooges.
it.s only gone down the pan since i started posting. i need some street cred. can i be barred please ? oh sorry, hang on, if i get barred i'll have no one to talk to......mmmm me thinks....... i wonder if we should introduce some dirty sex talk or enter the tour de france and visit gnv on the cheap, come back and post our experiences ?
get the site to put up a fiendish naughty soduko ? take bets on the horses for a shag ?............ duno....still finkin...
scrapping or cutting benefits will be the begining of major civil unrest. less cash in circulation means less jobs, less tax revenue not more and further reduction in economic activity.