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kazswallows
Over 90 days ago
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Quote by corriefem
Marcuso put me as definate but need somewhere to stay NOT where stayed last time lol as as travelling by myself will need gooooooood directions lol xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

hi hun, i have the hotel list and allowed to send it (marcuso's approval)
sent a pm to you with my email addy on it, if you send an email to it, i will send you the hotel list via the EMAIL system rolleyes
kaz
Quote by fabio grooverider
seem to have lost my advert.... granted it wasn't the best piece of fiction in the history of writing, but it took me blooming ages to do.......
am i suppose to link it to something... or has it now gawn!!!!!
sean xxxxxxxxx

no the link in your sig works perfectly hun kiss
Actually I'm impressed smile
New logo, will take some getting used to, but first impressions :thumbup:
3rd or the 17th will be best for us, BUT what ever day you do it we WILL be there (thats if we are welcome lol :lol: )
Do you want any more details on those ceromonies?
Kaz xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
well_busty_babe and the tongue - will be lovely to see you again
darkfire - if I said no I'd be shot lol you are welcome anytime hun
firehott0001 - will be great to see you
GT and WibblyWobbly - nice to meet you at Marcuso's your more than welcome
AlexClaireSX - THE DJ!!!!!!!! can we have loads of Kenny Rogers and Celine Dion :giggle:
Lucyweebaps + MrLWB - will be great to see you both kiss
lee-gingerjo - I dont think we have met yet but I've heard lots of nice things about you, your names are on the list
I'll send details of hotels out later this evening as promised, just got back from the wedding so trying to catch up.
Anyone else that wants hotels let me know and I'll get them out to you biggrin
Right on a separate note, I've been asked about a theme, dreaded word, so dont shoot the messanger :lol: :lol:
If there is one I thought a more general theme ie uniforms, winter? that way you can put your own interpretation on it dunno
Let me know what you think please
kaz xxxxxxxx
This has caused a lot of heartache and upset to a lot of members and I do not beleive it has yet run its course.
I was up till 6 am in a private chat room with a couple of peeps involved last night and we were given the opportunity to confront the person concerned with the allegations.
What came out of it was the allegations were edited and taken out of context, I suppose just like the mods threat to me that i would be banned if I ran my social with banned members whether or not I had the post deleted.
The person accused has said he will drop out with no hard feelings, I've said no (not at the moment), he has been told that if he causes any trouble he will be asked to leave and he respects that. But there again that rule applies to everyone!!!!!!!!
As has been said, everyone has to choice whether or not to come, nobody has complained, in fact the support is overwhelming kiss
My social can go ahead, in no small way due to the trust, respect and support of the people in here. Again community spirit prevails as it did after last weekend's incident.
I'm going to enjoy my party and those that are coming, I hope you enjoy it too. After all the hassles over the last month or so we need to let our hair down and just be the swingers and friends we are.
kaz xxxxxxxxxx
On another matter, my question re naming and shaming has not been answered thou' why wishmaster is named has, he allegidly made threats, I WAS abused and the guy is still out there and some peeps dont know who he is! still one rule for one etc.
blonde in answer to your post, I have no problem with the pm you sent and really appreciated the trust you gave me. Unfortunately that was abused when you had that conversation with a friend of mine, slighting me, saying that you had given me information you clearly hadnt, and telling people that I had blabbed that info AND that is why the pm's and chat logs have been recorded in their entirety so no mistake can be made about who said what and to whom. Hopefully from our conversation last night this has been sorted. And i did say that I would put this in the forum this morning so others do not think that I am slighting you in open forum.
Quote by kazswallows
I cant do this anymore .............. Only the Mods know the truth !

Oh, so kaz doesn't know the truth? Well if that's the case, why is she being threatened for something she knows nothing about?!?!?!?!?!?
I dont know babe !!!
C ya xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks blonde evil
the pm you sent me and I have it copied to a word document makes no mention of the accusations you are now making.
Have a laugh on me why dont you, when did I become piggy in the middle for your love life!!
kaz
this is also screen shot!
Quote by blonde
I cant do this anymore .............. Only the Mods know the truth !

Oh, so kaz doesn't know the truth? Well if that's the case, why is she being threatened for something she knows nothing about?!?!?!?!?!?
I dont know babe !!!
C ya xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks blonde evil
the pm you sent me and I have it copied to a word document makes no mention of the accusations you are now making.
Have a laugh on me why dont you, when did I become piggy in the middle for your love life!!
kaz
Quote by Calista
i'm going to dive in here... I'm worried that policy lumps together truly undesirable people (such as ones who don't understand that no means no) and people who verbally transgress the rules by (for example) mentioning another site, but ignores a third type of problem person, the serial confirm-but-non-attender. I think an ideal solution would let munch organisers have their lists monitored, and problem people highlighted, before blame is put on them.
If there is no public list of who is banned and how serious their offence was, it's unreasonable to expect munch organisers to be able to filter out banned people.

Kaz has from the beginning made it clear that a banned member would be attending and therefore people have been able to make an informed choice about their attendance and their own safety.
To suddenly pull the rug out and say to Kaz tough, delete the post or uninvite him or be banned is unfair when all along she has played the game and followed the rules.
Cx
I recieved a pm from a mod asking to post that non sh members were attending, after discussion and submitting my revision for approval I was given the green light. Anyone that has asked for details of non members banned and otherwise have been given them with full consent of the non members.
I have played by everyone of the rules asked of me but the goal posts have been moved again........fair I think not.
Yes a mod has given me permission to keep posting till monday....thankyou........but that really isnt the point.
Why am I being used as a scapegoat for all the politics going on?
Also I would like an answer to the post I made earlier, again it seems that there is one rule for one and another for others?
Can you tell me why then if Wishmaster has made threats but the guy on saturday actually carried physical/sexual abuse against me, why I can't name him on open forum as you have done with wishmaster in the interests of protecting site members that may have him on msn or such like?
Quote by Sgt Bilko

WE also decided that in this case, after certain information had been brought to our attention, that it would be wise to warn members that Wishmaster had made threats against us. Again, this was done to protect the members of this site, and WE do have evidence to support that decision.
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Can you tell me why then if Wishmaster has made threats but the guy on saturday actually carried physical/sexual abuse against me, why I can't name him on open forum as you have done with wishmaster in the interests of protecting site members that may have him on msn or such like?
rockstripe and jucy I will send the hotels after the weekend huns please bare with me as i have a few decisions to make and few peeps to talk to with reference to the new SH rules, and I am busy most of the weekend with a wedding smile
pheonix.....tart lol :lol: have a great night
lee-gingerjo.......have sent you a pm :)
kaz xxxxxxxxxxx
Quote by Phoenix
Err, I thought I'd asked, but don't see my name on the list dunno

mwahhhhh sorry hun, did see your post, did acknowledge it, put it on the master list,
sorry dumb blonde moment I didnt put you on the forum list sad
rectified biggrin forgive me
kaz xxxxxxxx
Quote by The Muttleys
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh snouty tart aint he? confused
Where ya gonna keep the crop and cane if youve got no keks on :shock:

dont think he's really bring them, isnt it slang for what he has dangling between his legs :shock:
Quote by SirLee
I'll def be there Kaz...not gonna miss my chance for a birthday kiss (and to hear some of Sir Lees jokes again). See you there..x

are you trying to say my jokes are recycled lol
but its not sirlee's birthday :shock: :lol:
you have to be there jucy to make my ass better after marcuso gets hold of it biggrin. your my official soother kiss
kaz xx
Quote by Sexysteph
OK so I'm a TART but keep it quiet I'm trying to convince people I'm new and shy (which i am of course) innocent
sarah theres time yet :twisted:

Errrrrrrrrrrrr Lee Sweetie It ain't working lol anyway should it not read
Quote by SirLee
OK so I'm a SEXY TART but keep it quiet I'm trying to convince people I'm new and shy (which i am of course) :whistling: wink

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
come on he's got an over inflated ego as it is rotflmao :rotflmao:
Muttley if you want to attach yourself to my bum, you have MY permission biggrin
Quote by The Muttleys
He can be found regularly attached to kaz's bum....cant think why confused
but then he's generally attached to other ladies bums too..............tart lol :shock:

oooooo you are evil :twisted: but I like it lol :lol:
Add+, teasing you hun, the amount of peeps that made the same mistake on his birthday...the benefits dunno of being his secretary.....yeh right.
Hubby is SirLee kiss
kaz xxx
Quote by Add+

ooooooooooooooppppppsssssss
Sorry mate.
My underpaid secretary wasn't sat on my knee taking notes when you put the original message on, and with me being old now and senility setting in I kind of forgot to transfer your name from my list onto the board.
It's there now and emboldened cos you've confirmed.
Take care
Marcuso

Apologises for slacking in my duties but I've been busy taking two members to a torture chamber for piercings.
You did approve the day off, or did you forget that OLD wise one lol :lol:
Hehe ADD+ laughs at Kaz. I'll show you my pierced MEMBER when I seez ya at the bash girl ...with Marco's permission of course!! wink
mmmm think you may be asking the wrong guy hun, I would try asking my hubby first rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Quote by prestondevils
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prestondevils - both of you hun?
At this stage I am available if the other half is working got a forum member to escort.
That ok hun?

no problem, I'll add you both and if you come with someone else could you please let me know smile
kaz xxxxxx
Quote by marmalaid
Only said the nice stuff cause your such a lovely couple (now where did I put my hat) lol :lol:

HAT!!!! you keep your hat just where it is, please :lol: people will start wondering!!

Talking of hats, has anyone seen mine? May be mentioned later in this thread, but I'm still working my way through it!
If its the one we have hun, I'll return it for a ransom :rascal:
Right, so I have to pay this ransom, before you even let me see the hat, eh? Then I have to pay the ransom to get the hat back you say? Then I have to pay a storage, carriage and handling charges? All seperately? All in kind?
What's that you say? If it's not my hat I have to compensate you for wasting your time?
Oh, ok then, it seems you have me over a barrel! :twisted:
mmmmmmm I demand two goldfish for the safe return of the hat shown below.
In the meantime deputy dawggg is looking after it smile
Quote by marmalaid
Only said the nice stuff cause your such a lovely couple (now where did I put my hat) lol :lol:

HAT!!!! you keep your hat just where it is, please :lol: people will start wondering!!

Talking of hats, has anyone seen mine? May be mentioned later in this thread, but I'm still working my way through it!
If its the one we have hun, I'll return it for a ransom :rascal:
Quote by Marcuso

sorry hun, I know you said definate, I did put it down on my list kiss
kaz xxxxxxxxxx

LOL.....now who's getting old and forgetful??
And I quote......
Quote by kazswallows on Marcuso's Xmas party thread
or did you forget that OLD wise one lol :lol:

innocent loon bolt
smackbottom :smackbottom: :smackbottom: I can always help with the burning of the shorts :lol: :lol:
Pheonix I've put you on the list hun biggrin
prestondevils - both of you hun?
suze and bart........:D of course you can come, cant wait to see you both again.
hux and susie not good enough, you have to be definate definates and sign it in triplicate otherwise I'll pull on that ring ;)
In light of recent events I will definately be asking if anyone one can vouch for the newer members and members I have never met. I hope you appreciate that for security of the people coming that I have to do this
Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
Kz, I have only just read this thread, and I feel sick to the bottom of my stomach. I am so very, very sorry that this happened. I just dont know what to say!
As the Munch organiser, I have always felt that I had an duty of care to the members who were coming and this is why we restricted the invites only to people who had joined the site before 1st September, or those who had joined after that date but had become regulars. The person concerend did fit into this category and in his pm, quoted another Munch he had attended. From his friendly pm's and his previous posts, I felt that he was 'suitable' to come to the munch, and as I have always felt that I am a pretty good judge of charactor, I did not see anything wrong with inviting him.
Obviously from reading this, I am not such a good a judge of people as I first thought. I am so very sorry that my actions put you in this position and I know that an apology will not make things right for you, but I seriously dont know what else I can do!
If I had known on the night that his behaviour was like this, I would have asked him to leave, but I was not made aware that he had actually abused you (I understood that he had been making suggestive comments) I did try to find the bloke to ask him to leave, but was told he had already left the venue.
I dont know what else I can say, apart from offering my apologies for this. Kaz, I am very, very sorry. I was going to put another post on today about an idea I had for a theme for another munch, but after this, I really dont feel that I can trust my own judgement anymore.
Please look afteryourself, you are wonderful person, who has helped so many people on here, I truly hope that things are going to be alright for you.
Di
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OMG NWC please please dont in anyway blame yourself. It was in no way your fault. We have to trust ourselves and give members the benefit of the doubt. If that trust is abused then 'punishment' comes hard and swift.
Unfortunately in all walks of life people are trusted and they abuse that trust, you see it on the news and in the papers all the time.
I spoke to you that night after the fact because other people dealt with it. One thing that came out of previous threads is: if anyone has any problem that they cant deal with get help and inform the organisor or their helpers. This happened, you HAD security in place, you did everything humanly possible.
I will ring you tomorrow to reassure you that in NO way do I think either yourselves or your helpers were in anyway at fault, nor could you have done anything to stop it.
Roll on the next wigan munch, if it is humanly possible WE WILL be there and any help you need will once again be offered. NO ONE is going to stop me being who I am or enjoying myself with my friends, if nothing else the last couple of days have shown me this community is absolutely fantastic
NWC kiss and (((((((hugs)))))))
So when is the next one and what is the theme biggrin
sorry forgot to say and this is going to leave a really bad taste in my mouth to say it, but it needs to be said evil
People saw the incident take place, people responded and as such I feel totally justified in posting about it.
But, it is his story against mine and of such he hasn't been convicted of any crime therefore naming him publicly is finding him guilty without letting him have his say.
As for naming and shaming I don't want to hold a 'kangaroo court', after all it would come down to my word against his, I reitterate his details are known to other sites, his IP address is banned and as action has been taken I feel that everything that can be done, has been.
The mods and ops have re-assured me about the action taken and I am passing that re-assurance on to you
no one has remotely suggested that I am telling lies
kaz xxxxxxx
THANKYOU smile
The community stuck by me on Saturday night and judging by the posts and pm's you are supporting me again. There isn't words to describe the appreciation that myself and SirLee feel to you all except
'THANKYOU
I hope newer or less confident members feel reassured that although this wasn't a 'pleasant' experience that this was an isolated incident and whether or not the people that attended the party knew me or not, every last one of them will be there to do their dambdest to stop this kind of thing happening. If it does they are there to put a stop to it.
Some of you either on here or by pm have said that no male should ever do that to a woman, it could have just as easily of being a woman doing the 'abuse' and that is equally wrong.
A lot of you have brought up the 'naming and shaming' policy and I an understand where you are coming from. Can I just reassure you that the other 'free' sites have been informed and action has/is being taken.
Unfortunately unless someone can give an ip address to other sites there is no way of knowing whether or not or not the person is registered under a differant name. There's no way for you to know who they are either, unless you know the person concerned
Sgt has said there is a no 'naming and shaming' policy on this site and he will know from the other mods that it was never my intention to do that, but thanks Sgt for re-iterating it.
Of course I have the usual questions going through my head "did I encourage it", "did the fact I was sexily dressed say to him, this woman is asking for it", "did I give out the wrong signals by my behaviour". "I'm a swinger at a party, am I saying that I am fair game"? I equally know that the answer to these questions whether I was male or female is a resounding NO. No means no whatever the circumstances. It doesnt stop you worrying about it and feeling guilty.
Anyway Thankyou once again and I will reply to the pm's today
kaz kiss
Thanks for your hugs, kisses and support, it is really appreciated.
Angel as you said unfortunately it can lead to people taking sides and I thought long and hard and took advice from close friends before I posted publically.
If anyone is friends with the guy, no problem and I personally am not going to fall out with them over it.
The action taken against him wasnt just taken on heresay from me and certainly i wouldnt expect anyone just to accept my side of the story.
As phire as said, he will step in and help if needed and the point of the post is to show others that that the community and friends will support and help stop this kind of thing happening.
kaz xxxx
As some of you are probably aware I was 'sexually abused' last night. (I have posted separately from the thanks thread as not to put a dampener on it)
The guy concerned made unwelcome advances on two occasions, and politely told no and pushed away, and a good friend helped me out of the situation. The third occasion was out and out abuse and a few friends (and I'm sorry I don't know who you all were as it happened so fast) circled me and separated the guy concerned from me.
I'd like to say a big thanks to those people involved and thank you for not making a scene. A big thank you to my hubby for trusting me enough and not putting the guy in hospital (that is my job!!!).
The mods have been informed and appropriate action has been taken.
The reason I'm posting this, is because I'm a very confident person and I dealt with it (with help smile), but less confident people or newer members may feel intimidated and end up with issues if this happened to them.
These incidents happen very rarely and if they do, there is plenty of support for the person concerned and action will be taken against the offending person. Therefore I throw this open for regular trusted members to reassure the newer and less confident peeps that support is out there.
At the moment I'm flucking mad and hopefully that is the only after effects I will feel.
Thank you to you all, for a wonderful night and making sure that one bad apple didn't spoil the whole night for me. passionkiss
kaz xxxxxx
PS I know there is a similar thread in the archives but didn't feel it would serve any purpose to drag it back up as a lot of the stuff posted is not relevant to this.
The people that do know who the guy was, do not post the name on the forum, it is not allowed or appropriate. Thanks