I've posted in this thread so not to hijack another thread, i do so because the OP of this thread is making snide remarks at certain members in other threads at every opportunity, and quite frankly its pissing me off...this is thread that started it all off, i would like the OP to wind his neck back in and re-read this thread again, and maybe realise where he went wrong, everyone else can see it but he can't! Calling other members "idiots" at evey opportunity you can, because they dissagree with your remarks or comments, it only make's you look a little bitter and twisted and every bit in the wrong. Read this thread and THINK!! why it would be considered offensive to people who have paid you, to enter your home, for a swingers party, only to find remarks and comments that they have told you in good faith, as being "ridiculous observations".
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Quote by essex34m
I remember once getting blown out by someone, because my job was not 'professional' in her eyes.
My income meant I was earning decent money, better than some of the occupations she classed as professional, but because part of my work attire is steel toecap boots and not a shirt and tie, I didn't fit her criteria for being classed as a professional.
It was her call, I hope she found what she was looking for.
well what did you expect, fancy turning up in your flourencents!
Could have been worse, could have been a deckchair shirt like I have seen you in.
How many times have i got to tell...that shirts not for sale!!
Quote by essex34m
I remember once getting blown out by someone, because my job was not 'professional' in her eyes.
My income meant I was earning decent money, better than some of the occupations she classed as professional, but because part of my work attire is steel toecap boots and not a shirt and tie, I didn't fit her criteria for being classed as a professional.
It was her call, I hope she found what she was looking for.
well what did you expect, fancy turning up in your flourencents!
Quote by Kaznkev
If compassion doesnt work,how about real politik?
Either look at the picture and feel symapthy,or wonder how we can practically prevent the child growing up hating the west.
Why hate us, how about their own government coughing up some cash, i'm sure the Pakistani Prime Minister could sell his French Villa that he was staying in when the floods were happening!
Quote by Dave__Notts
If you do something without intending to cause harm, and it causes harm, no, you're not a thug. The law of causation is complex, difficult and doesn't lend itself to easy binary answers. The clue is in Max's question. Throw a block into the path of a car, not intending to cause serious harm, and you may be a bloody fool, but you're not a thug.
:doh: missed this one where you qualified your answer on what a thug is.
Have to totally disagree with you on this and so did the courts as they found them guilty.
If you do something without intending to cause harm will not result in murder. If you do something intending to cause harm will result in murder.
The legal system does not have a charge of being a thug. This descriptor depends if the accused person is found guilty or not guilty. If he is guilty then, if his charge was one of violence, then he can be correctly called a thug. If he is found innocent then he cannot be called a thug.
In this case the two men were found guilty.
Dave_Notts
The only thing I agree with in this startling admission on your part is where you say that the legal system does not have a charge of being a thug. You don't seem to have a definition of being a thug either.
Manslaughter is not a charge that requires violence for the charge to be made out. As the Hancock and Shankland case proves, you can set out not to cause serious harm, and still end up convicted of manslaughter. So, to sustain your claim that these men were thugs, you have to keep on asserting that anyone who is found guilty of manslaughter must, ipso facto, be a thug. Except when he's a speeding driver, of course...
Admission
. You have lost me sorry. Perhaps if you could clarify I could answer.Dave_Notts
Go on admit it...they were just naughty teenagers who did not really know what they were doing.
Quote by Kaznkev
"Worth the risk of what...........killing a completely innocent man? Indulging in graffiti and liberating chickens hardly equates to heaving a block of concrete into the path of a moving car. And to liken the miners that perpetrated this act to naughty teenagers who didn't really know what they were doing, is an insult to the dead man's memory."
If you see that as a personal attack, then maybe you should question your ability to be involved in discussions of emotive subjects where feelings could run high.
No,max asked where he had called them naughty boys, the quote shows it,the attack was suggesting i cant read .
It wasn't suggesting you can't read - it was an instruction for you to re-read what had been written. He didn't call them naughty boys - you were the first to quote the reference to 'naughty teenagers'. There has been no attack on you.
i think the comments were personal as he prefaced them with reference to my posting he had not wished to personalise the argument he could have simply said he disagreed or believed i misunderstood. i see no validity in bringing up how often someone is on the site.
If people here cannot see why describing the Churchill Club as"naughty teenagers who didn't really know what they were doing" is insulting to the many Europeans who lost their lives fighting Fascism then i despair i really do.
At no time did i describe them as naughty boys, i was trying to raise the tone of the argument out that at different times and places and within different social groupings actions that may be thuggish to some are acceptable to others.
The Nazis described the Churchill Gang as naughty in order to remove the political element from what they were doing,but to many young Danes they were if Max had read the link he might have been able to comment on the analogy(not comparison )i was making.
i still argue that we all, i would hope have things we might break the law to protect and preserve,that does not make us of necessity thugs.
But those were the words you used, even if it was the Nazis that was describing them as that, at no time did Max say they were nothing but naughty teenagers...he was quoting you, FFS how come everyone else can see you digging a hole but yourself?
I suggest you go back to Page 9 and re-read everything, and don't take that as a personal attack!
Quote by Dave__Notts
OK enough is enough. Could a Mod please have a look at this. Kaz is accusing me of making a personal attack upon her and I would like the situation clarified.
Until a complaint has been received from a member that a breach of the AUP has occured then it will not be acted on. If you require further clarification then please PM me.
Dave_Notts
But wouldn't you know if a breach of the AUP has occured by just reading the posts in this thread? and if so wouldn't you as a moderator be able to act upon that without the need to wait for a complaint?
Quote by Dave__Notts
No,max asked where he had called them naughty boys, the quote shows it,the attack was suggesting i cant read .
If you believe an attack on you has occured, then please put in a complaint.
Dave_Notts
And what happens then?
If its proved that Kaz just lost the plot and no attack was made, will there be a public apology from her to Max in this thread. And quite honestly i have seen no such attack just someone who appears to not want to admit that they got it wrong, so come up with some excuse that she is being personally attacked by another member.
Quote by Bluefish2009
People are complaining that we have been called a 3rd world country.
People have died in hospital corridors due to lack of space or facilities, we have people living homeless on the streets, we send troops to war, then expect them (as has happened on a few reported occasions) to buy their own kit to name a few examples.
Maybe he has a point.....
You could have a point
Our national football team speaks volumes of how third world we really are!
Quote by Bluefish2009
I took someones belt away from them, so he wouldn't try to hang himself....again!
Will he ever agree That you have helped him?
Probably not, but he's not getting out of going to court again tomorrow, we're just take his laces away from him aswell!
So it benefits us all as he will serve justice :thumbup:
Exactly!
Quote by Kaznkev
Can I just remind posters that we have many catholic members here, please have respect for those members who may not post but read this forum.
This is what the thread is about for those who've forgotten.
Just seen that the head of the Catholic church in England has said its right that the tax payers should foot the £12 millon bill for the pope's 4 day visit!!!
Is it right should we foot the bill so the Pope can come see his flock so to speak?
The Catholic church is reputed to be wealthy if he wants to come why cant he foot the bill or part of it?
Well said anais.
I didn't see you taking exception to StaggerleeBB's post Kaz?
I haven't seen Kaz state in this thread she has taken exception to anyone's post? I fail to see the point your making? :dunno:
I'm making the same point that both Powers and Blue made, one of double standards.
Where is the double standard,i posted according to the op,i thiink the forum in general would work better if people did that.
What Max is saying is if the comments that staggs had made, had been said my a certain other member, you would have been on him like a fly to shit...but as it was, you chose to ignore them remarks but still agreed with Anais, that is where the double standards come into it.
Quote by flower411
All religous organisations are full of hypocrites, not just the Catholic Church, but what i find hypocritical are the hateful/spiteful remarks of some of the posters here towards the Pope, but they would probably bend over backwards defending other religous groups/leaders deemed just as or worse than the Catholic Church,
I wouldn`t defend any of em .... the fact ....the plain and simple fact ....that the pope is presiding over an organisation that has been proven to protect pheadophiles and murderers is beyond argument and I wouldn`t defend any of the other wankers either !!
So if and when we get a visit from some highly placed Islamic leader that the taxpayer has to foot the bill for, i will expect the same offensive remarks to be said about a leader who may possibly encourage terrorism? or are we still treading on egg shells so not to offend non christians.
Quote by kentswingers777
Fair enough points indeedy.
You can imagine the outcry if a famous Muslim leader was going to visit, and somebody called him a " cunt ".
I am sure that the powers that be ( no pun intended ) on here, would no doubt ban that member for such abusive remarks.
Exactly, some people will quite openly call the Pope a cunt, but if you did the same to some islamic leader, people would be baying for your blood!
Quote by kentswingers777
The thread was about the Pope Powers, so why bring one of the other religious leaders into it?
I could do easily as yes they are all hypocrites, and not a single one of them can prove that there is actually any God at all, that is why I am a non believer.
I much prefer the Stephen Hawkins version myself.
My point is if i started a thread bashing the muslims/their leaders, some of the very people in this thread using some very offensive remarks towards the Pope would come to their defence. What i'm trying to say is don't get on the moral high horse, if my views on a particular subject differ from yours, when some of the remarks in this thread also stoop to that level.
Quote by kentswingers777
For me I do not give a shit whether he comes here or not.
The Catholic church is full of fucking hypocrites, and if they want him to come here then I do not see the need for anyone, other than the Catholic church to pick the tab up.
The British taxpayer should tell whoever is responsible to fuck off, and pay for the visit yourself.
There............that feels so much better.
All religous organisations are full of hypocrites, not just the Catholic Church, but what i find hypocritical are the hateful/spiteful remarks of some of the posters here towards the Pope, but they would probably bend over backwards defending other religous groups/leaders deemed just as or worse than the Catholic Church, if those kind of remarks were being posted here. The Pope may have an opinion about gays you don't like but as far as i know, he's not having them hung for it, he maybe protecting pedophiles, but he's not forcing young girls to marry older men like other religous cultures do, you may also think he is a woman hater, but are catholics suppressing women and treating them like 3rd class citizens, so when did the Pope become this big bad guy all of a sudden?
Quote by Sugar-n-pom
Why do people do that? Make a 'leading' statement, an obscure reference to it ... then when asked what they mean, they go all 'hush-hush'?
If you're not willing or able to discuss what you post, why bother to post at all? It's just bloody annoying!
Maybe the best place for this thread should have been to put it in the steam room?
The whole thread or just my post? The thread isn't mine but my post was in response to what was said - it wasn't just a random statement so I can't see why it should have been posted in the steam room.
I think you mis understand, Kent is agreeing with you and making the suggestion that the OP should have just posted in the steam room.
Quote by gagmaster
a big lol it hurts .STOP NOW. its taken months to get to this stage starting with the cooking oil and ENDING WITH THE LYCRA..no troll but yes to tounge and cheek i know that some of you have pictured a guy racing up to a lass and reaching out but this doesnt happen in the real world or mine please take it easy on me any mod that wants to close thread please do so.I THINK I GOT A GREAT NEW TOPIC
Actually it does, where would you like me to start, men that follow women around clothes shops, sexually assaulting them or spying on them changing, men that use mirrors to look up skirts on the underground, men that stand behind women at train platforms and sniff and kiss their necks...i've heard it all, Your perversion is no different then theirs!
Quote by tweeky
And that is based on your opinion, absolutely no proof that he isn't hanging about Richmond Park doing exactly what he has described, yeah he maybe full of shit and nothing more than a fantasist and attention seeker, but he could also be deadly serious. Personally i think he is a little disturbed. Chip fat oil is one thing, stalking women in parks is another, keep it up Gagmaster and i'll be seeing you soon!
Quote by gagmaster
i came across a cutie in a red pvc catsuit in heels riding around richmond park with cold used cooking oil in her water bottle drinking it through a clear plastic straw.i know whats the chance of that happening.
did you even bother to read his first post, seems pretty serious to me!
Quote by gagmaster
my reason was whist having a quiet walk around richmond park i notice alot of females cyclist in skin tight lycra just how do you get close to them..well i tell you buy a bike and train .i mean really train like your going into a ironman event once fit the fun starts .what i do is hold back till you see one of these cuties them follow not to close. not till you come to a long steep incline this is your time to pounce. wait timing is key here what you are looking 4 is them getting tied and having to get out the saddle if you fit enough you can creep right up and slipstream them watch those hips jiggle and see the glow of there legs sweating. and then just lean foward and sniff away.i get so close now im almost able to give them oral sex.
I just see a disturbed man and a sex offender in the making!
Quote by tweeky
The comments were of a personal nature,thats what struck me most
I'm assuming that you're talking about what I said. That's cool with me, feel free to report me to Admin. I stand by what I said. The OP is disgusting and if I was out on my bike and found someone behaving in that manner then I would report him to the Police. I find his comments offensive and I won't apologise for reacting. If you have issue then do something about it.
And I find your post over reactive to an eventthat is obviously not actually happening. If the event is not actually happening then the thread is tongue in cheek as I believe all of Gagmasters threads are. Your comments about calling the police are therefore laughable. Gagmaster wants either a laugh and a joke tounge in cheek or he wants exactly the kind of reaction so many of you here are showing.
Really, seriously, fuckin chill out :cool:
And that is based on your opinion, absolutely no proof that he isn't hanging about Richmond Park doing exactly what he has described, yeah he maybe full of shit and nothing more than a fantasist and attention seeker, but he could also be deadly serious. Personally i think he is a little disturbed. Chip fat oil is one thing, stalking women in parks is another, keep it up Gagmaster and i'll be seeing you soon!
Quote by gagmaster
I can see in a few months this taking off in a big way just like dogging did when it hit the of doggers running around all the local carparks at 2am in the morning and chasing any couple away they will be wearing there macs and thick rim glasses waiting in groops of 20 or more sitting on there bikes from halfords eating crisps and drinking coke. Before I know it I won't be able to submit cycling locations on this site due to ex doggers now cyclist chasing the fit young cuties away.I'm sure I'm not the only cyclist that does this but the first to post it on the web . So when this does go global and you read about it in the news of the you can say you knew all about it first thanks to a site called swingingheaven and a great god like guy called me this is the next big thing to hit the site might even have to add hill locations and a new forum for cycle meets
Great...thats all we need, this site linked with a sex offender, all thanks to a twonk called gagmaster!
Have you actually bothered to listen to anything, anyone has said on here, dogging is one thing, but sexual assault on a woman is different matter. i really hope your nothing more than a fantasist.
Quote by gagmaster
why isit when we get a little older we decide its time to get fitter . my reason was whist having a quiet walk around richmond park i notice alot of females cyclist in skin tight lycra just how do you get close to them..well i tell you buy a bike and train .i mean really train like your going into a ironman event once fit the fun starts .what i do is hold back till you see one of these cuties them follow not to close. not till you come to a long steep incline this is your time to pounce. wait timing is key here what you are looking 4 is them getting tied and having to get out the saddle if you fit enough you can creep right up and slipstream them watch those hips jiggle and see the glow of there legs sweating. and then just lean foward and sniff away.i get so close now im almost able to give them oral sex .top tip if they look round and see you just breath heavy the girls being girls think they are doing great job because you cant get pass them buying you extra time to sniff away great fun when they get in the saddle again at the top of hill just turn around and start again. this helps you get fitter and is a example of carrot and stick
In all honesty...i think your a sex offender in the making!
Quote by gagmaster
im off to a bukkake party and really want to spray this lass face with loads of cum like peter north does so if any you guys now how to produce more cum let me know as im sure my bollocks can produce im looking 4 is like i say to spray her face with volume and force just like a fireman putting out a fire on the fifth floor of a tower block
try not wanking for a couple of weeks.
Quote by Dave__Notts
I am still not entirely sure how we came to be involved in the Afghanistan thing.
You will never make a history teacher!
Sometimes I think you say the things you do purely for effect.
:grin:Care to give us a history lesson?
Do you know Mr P? I thought I did.......then when this thread came up I realised I didn't have a fecking clue why we are over there or even when we went.
Dave_Notts
tell me about it, one minute we are illegaly invading Iraq, next we're in Afghanistan, go figure!
