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outlaws2001
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 67
Straight Female, 66
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Quote by j_e_f_59

Hi James, why do you go to the guys window first? is it to make the couple feel safe?
I can understand that but do you then want to talk?
Only from our point of view if you come over to talk that is all you will get! I'm affraid! we get "caught out" so you have to creep up on us!

Yes, I go to the drivers side to make the couple feel safe. I'm not going there to have a chat, unless that is what the couple wants. Once they know I'm there one of two things can happen. I can be told leave if I've read the signals wrong. I think it is easier for the man to tell me that they are not interested than the woman; as I said I've no wish to frighten or upset anyone. The other possibility is that they see me and are happy. Usually there is some sort of acknowledgement that they have seen you, even if it's just a glance. As I said last time, once they know I'm there I feel free to move round to the passengers side. On the other hand sometimes if she is giving him a blow job then the best view is at the drivers side.
I'm sure that my cautious approach means that sometimes I miss out, but at the end of the day I wouldn't want to think that someone was put off of dogging just because I was impatient.
James
We respect what you say so whatever way you go about it is fine.
It just from our point of view we don't just go out for a couple of hours for a shag! We sometimes go out from mid morning or afternoon until the early hours the next day. So there are quite a few pauses during that time for talk, cups of coffee or read a book together!
If you was to come up to our window whenever one of these activities are happening we are not going to switch into sex mode and give you a performance, we don't just turn it on, we've tried it and you might get a good show but it ain't a real turn on for us!
so we only start to have sex when we are up for it and there is no one close to the car unless it is someone we know very well!! If someone comes close before Mrs Outlaw is turned on then the skirt or dress will slide down and all action will stop and then talk and or make a cup of coffee!
so whatever method you have found that works for you, then do it. Our posts on this were from only a narrow point of view, ours! Because our involvement is just as exhib's and we don't interact, we was a little blinkered, others including kissing K have pointed out about the interactive side of things and we take on board that it is the best way to weed out who or who not to be involved with!
As always, dirtydoggers put up a much better post to explain what we was trying to say! Hail the DD's
Quote from the DD's "running commentary "where are they now?" "It's ok he's coming over now"..."He's behind the tree" "I can see his fag glowing, quick get your tit's oot"
perfect!!! been there and done it many times lol :lol:
good luck james in your approach and hope you have many happy landings
Quote by KISSING K
hi mr& mrs outlaws see where you are comeing from but every cpl is different, l mrs k prefer the dogger to go staight to hubbys side i think its good manners and also i rely on him to let me know if he thinks hes ok always trust him to spot anything dodgey.
I still need to feel safe even at my age ha ha. And the best way to find out what they are into is to talk first they soon let thier guard down, but yes always the chance of talking the night away and i can talk for England. redface
But saying all that if its only a show im putting on theres no need to talk at all but if i want to play then i really need to know what is what.
mrs k :gagged:

Hi Kissing K,
I now see what you mean I really didn't think about it from that point of view!!
to help this thread meandher have got to come back and let us know if the are looking for a watcher or someone to join in!
Hi James, why do you go to the guys window first? is it to make the couple feel safe?
I can understand that but do you then want to talk?
Only from our point of view if you come over to talk that is all you will get! I'm affraid! we get "caught out" so you have to creep up on us!
the playing with yourself to see which side he would go was a bit tounge in cheek! a song has just pop into my head "Straights to the left of me, bi's to the right. stuck in the middle with you (Mrs Outlaw)"!!!
Hi Jomu, communication, well verbal we don't do until afterward, think, as I said above we need what they want clairifying.
Quote by meandher6367
we a couple new to dogging scene. but how can u tell the difference between st8 and gay guys. we just looking for st8 guys but cant find a way of telling the difference

If he's gay, as soon as he realises that it's a couple he wont come and watch!
If he is bi or straight does it matter? Unless you want to become interactive! ? is that you question?
One good way I surpose it for you both to play with yourselves and see which window they choose to look through! you might get a clue
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You rang M'lady!
A Pym's and lime would have been nice at half time!!
It might have warmed the cockles!
good post sam, nice story and glad you had a good time!
Take note of everything the DD's have said, it's very good advice.
And as for us we never flash any lights,
Quote by Hillfolk
Interestingly enough my mate is head of countryside leisure in Cheshire and he's not bothered about it as long as people clean up afterwards, don't dameage anything or upset locals. Now that's public service eh?
Dawn + Mark (added value in a fuckfest)

Exactly clean up after yourself! these areas are for everyone, if you leave your spunky tissues and condoms on the ground, the next day the car parks are used by dog walkers and families. Would you want to try and pulled a used jonny from you dogs mouth as he chewed on it :shock: lol
Many years ago I had to rescue one of ours from our cat who had sneaked into our bedroom the morning after!!!
Seems the newspaper has done it's job and scared a lot of people off, It will quiten down and then pick up again. The police have always toured the carparks and they always will It's part of the buzz.
So if you arrange a meet that makes you safe from a vist from the boys in blue, that will only happen if you meet indoors! surely!
have a thought for others and there will be a lot less complaints
We have had prearranged meets in the past and no offence to the other couples they were good looking and up for plent of sex (with own partners) but there is somthing about perform "now" that doesn't hit the spot! It's not like making a film for us, just banging away at it
With Serendipity there was a thread going, double meanings! and as we was passing through her territory so we asked in the forum is she fancied a "flash" after probally 6 pm's over 5 weeks a date and time was set. One of the pm's was to offer some photo's to try and prove that we was genuine, not that proves very much, and one was an offer from Dipity of a male voyure! Who in the end couldn't make it.
So of we set in the morning the first port of call was for a tank full of petrol, I had my back to the car as I filled her up and didn't see what was happening on the other side. Someone had payed for his petrol and on his way back to his car clocked Mrs Outlaw, who smiled back and put her foot on the dash to show a stocking clad thigh! Seems he had a lot of trouble getting back into his car. It's amazing how curtious some men can be to other road user! letting people pull out of the filling station in front of him!! I got told all about the little bit of foreplay and it put a smile on our faces.
We had an easy drive up and arrived fairy early and just sat and relaxed. Later we sent a text that we had arrived and got a reply in turn. We were lucky as it was a nice day and managed some playing around in between dog walkers pulling up, whenever they were there we just sat and had a coffee. ( we are not into offending anyone) We were into a lot of heavy foreplay, the car park was empty then a flash of lights as a car puled in through the tight entrance, the lights went onto dipped slipped around the tree and parked up next to us, we had straighten ourselves up but relaxed as we realised who it was. So not to break the spell we carried on with the window open a few inches to start with.
Senedipity got it right, we was having sex outdoors and she was watching, the two things in a way were seperate.
Didn't know that I had a posh wank though! whilst we were having a breather the two girls on either side of me, trousers still around my calfs, I was just keeping things on the simmer, we started talking about the different ways men wank! and with my little finger poking out, (just as in drinking a cup of tea.) That I was a posh wanker,Yeah right! I just the normal type.
Thanks again Serendipity for a great night, also for somthing a little different
Last the DD have a lot of good advice so all you newbies especially take note!
well this is the last.... the ability to put what comes into your brain through the net and onto a forum doesn't always make sense.....well from us that is..........in other words the above made sense when written!!!
Quote by fem_4_taboo
when you decide shaving below is a good idea not only because its nice smooth but as it will get rid of the grey hair :giggle:
x lou xxxxxx

I think (I've been told) as you get older it actually fall out :shock: Now that is scary.
the good side is at least you don't have to shave or pluck anymore, you just have to smooth out the wrinkles :shock:
Guy Mitchell with rock-a-billy and Everly Brothers' All I have to do is dream! for mrs outlaw.
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Hi Serendipity, (the perfect dogger)
We're really glad you had such a good time! Because we certainly did!
How you put our encounter above was perfect!
perhaps we might be passing through south herts more often from now on!
made our weekend talking about what happened and the flashbacks!! we're still getting them.
take care
A very special "HAPPY BITHDAY" from us two too.....
you didn't let on it was your bithday, thanks again for a wonderful night the other thursday
kisses on the bottom
Quote by lilacgem
I read this post & found that it annoyed me so I left it & read another post or 2 but found myself having to come back to put in my two penny worth.
I understand that life throws new & exciting experiences to everyone constantly so at some point we have help & advice is always welcome, although it seems not in this case.
DLT you have posted on a dogging forum so one would presume that you are asking this from a dogging point of view, so my answer would be no I am not the same as you because when I go out dogging the whole point is to watch or be watched (or caught out as you put it) But what annoyed me the most is that Gurl took the time to respond to your post & quite clearly stated that she didnt quite understand your post & also apologised if in her answer she had misunderstood. You had the audacity to reply with sarcasm as though she was a moron & was suggesting something horrifying! It then goes on when swingpembs asks a simple question & your reply is equally as rude as your last.
So my final answer to your post is grow up, stop spitting your dummy out, practice on the manners & then MAYBE you will find some friends to enable hubby to take some mild holiday snaps of you with someone other than by yourself!!!!!!!

hear! hear!
glad to here that you are cloud nine!!
now your hooked, thats it, it will take over your life lol
one of the biggest buzzes afterward is being able to tell someone and thanks to SH you can.
we had one in particular that kept turning up whenever we was out, just the way he jumped out of the car straight away, where he stood, not discreet like stalking a prey but right there! he's stance and the way he looked at us, a fixed stare.........arghhhhh!
then one day I (mrs out) open the window and said sorry we're just having a coffee and nothing is going to happen today! a few seconds later he came out of his trance... appoligised and said he would be off and wouldn't bother us.
now the way he said it, he came over in a tottally different way to what we had perceived him to be!
we haven't seen him since and that was nine months ago, so if your out there, do a few things differently and you will be lucky, perhaps
Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
We also find it hard to start anything if the doggers come and talk to us before we are playing. Somehow it loses the anonymity and just does not feel right (another reason why we dont do pre-arranged meets). Dont mind sharing a few pleasantaries afterwards, but not before, it just does not feel right lol

perfectly said NWC, I just can't switch it on, I'm a woman I have to get to a certain level sexually before..............
funnily enough some doggers have never dogged us because they come right over and start talking to us straight away, BIG mistake. Sorry guys but you got to learn that we get caught out accidentally at first, and after we are turned on
we have asked some in the past to take a drive and come back in ten mins and see what developes.
talking afterwards no probs.......lol
you always get a positive from a negative!
Senendipity why not slide over to see us on our way throught herts next month? you might get a flash :shock:
you have to be really careful not to upset anyone especially during the day, But there can be some really good foreplay to be had.
like going out for a picnic, taking in the sun with a short skirt that accidentally rides up! Oh! did I forget to put my knics on? these places are few and far between but there are some out there. It's more long distant dogging with the doggers in amongst the trees and us in a little glade,
just make sure that it is easy to cover up, this is for warmer days but they are just around the corner!
also there's the obvious dogger parked next to you during the day, just by opening the door a flash of thigh to the car next to you, also slowly placing one leg out of the car, skirt rides up! Oh! Have I just "accidentally" flashed as I get out, and as you step out so the skirt will cover you up to all the "normal people out there. It is somthing of an art but great fun
most important don't offend anyone of the general public
just a thought but why not just try going out and having sex outdoors between yourselves first, in a non dogging location? that a big enough buzz in itself.
it's just by having a prearranged meet you putting a lot of pressure on your other half to enjoy herself! That's more important for having great sex between the two of you, then later on go for prearranged meets
not trying to dictate to you, just trying to give you a helping hand on you way to outdoor sex
Quote by bigfella010
i have been there quite a few times and had my first and only experience so far , i was parked next to a car with a couple in , she was giving him a bj and they had window open , at the time i was a bit unsure what to do i so wanted to get out of car and stand by window but did not want to break any rules confused so i sat and watched , they carried on for a while and did not seem to mind me watching , i really regret not getting out of car ! should i have got out or did i do the "right thing " and just watch from my car ?

It's never easy knowing what's right or wrong! From our point of view it depends how far along the line we are, from our point of view if you had got out straight away nothing would have happened, after we had got down to a little 'play' if you had got out of your car and stood by it, (from your point of view) are they still enjoying themselves? fine then treat it like 'what's the time mister wolf' biggrin if you move closer and they stop, your to close! return to your car and start again when they start again. It is never easy to get it right, but slowly slowly catchy monkey is always good to remember.
serindipty wrote that you was not intivited over, not all couples do, we don't ever invite or flash any lights except by accident, evey couple is different so just enjoy and learn as you go along
Quote by Younggun773
iv never seen anything happening there myself but iv heard rumours that things do mate

I find that amazing......That's where we cut out teeth with dogging! It used to be if you didn't get into a car park before closing time you couldn't get in one :shock:
Doggers used to stay in their cars with the windows open to listen to the excitement coming from the adjacent cars, they were parked so close. quite often two couples to a car as well.
we moved away from the area 15 years ago. sad to hear of it's decline.
Quote by Jags
Thanks for that info.
Jags will you stop waving that avatar around...... does my blood pressure no good at all biggrin
Clint

Catch me if you can!
lol :lol:
We both enjoy your avatar as well, we've admired it for some time......................any chance that you've got a larger version you could send...........................I know it's picture collecting and all that.......................but.................pleaseeeeeeee
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My son discovered SH last year and told all his friends about it :shock: So we had to change ours because it was the same as we used in other web (vanilla!) sites. The outlaws (a band) were playing on the old vynall deck and it seemed appropate at the time.....2001 when we finally got internet access
Amber that really sounds like a warm, glowing, addy.......lovely
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Quote by Relais
What is it about blindfolds? lack of vision is more erotic, the squirming surprise of not knowing where the next hand will be or just that it's easier to lose inhibitions if you can't see? or all of 'em? biggrin

I think my wish would involve the opposite - to watch a nice woman exposing herself while I could look at her eyes. All the better if she were to enjoy seeing me getting excited by her while I looked at her and then maybe let touched her. The eye contact would be really special. This as part of a MMF in a quiet place on a sunny evening. Mmmm, some wish!
so your an eye contact man then :D I've had a few of them :D
I like an extra hand to put things back in when they pop out :shock:
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Count me in, can't resist a flash to lorry drivers, also love a little accidental flashing of thigh along a high street or in a shop............ changing rooms can be fun :shock:..... wink accidentally, of course
another pair here............well there may be a few curly bits here and there :shock:
Quote by Calista
Ok not swinging related but a moment of peace ....
THis was quoted on a website I visit ...
Tonight is the best Moon that has been in the last 2 centuries, it is higher than the Sun.
Go and have a look (if it's clear)
Normally the Moon is to the South of us but tonight its to the East...weird or what.
Heard on the New today that this is the best Moon for the last 2 centuries and in our lifetime we will never see this again.

It's a truly great sight ...
Cx
Thanks Calista, if you hadn't posted this thread we wouldn't have poked our heads out of doors tonight kiss very romantic to stand in the cool air
Quote by berksbex
the wall opposite the bed! !

Did he have dark galsses and a white walking stick dunno
No I just think he was very enthusiastic biggrin
And a nice chappie too wink
Sounds good! what more could you ask! Gave you a buzzzzzzzzzz lol