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Quote by naughtynymphos1
also re-directs spunk to your bladder instead of out of your cock.

no forgive me as i don't have a cock so i'm not really up on this subject but that can't be safe can it?
There isnt really a definate answer to that one... but it is believed that by doing this the ejaculate is just absorbed back into the body, or expelled the next time the bladder is emptied. One possible conciquence could be a reduction in the ability of muscles that stop you wetting yourself to work and/or the way the body closes the ejaculate tubes when weeing and closes the wee tube when ejaculating.
Tantric and some other meditative sexual practises supposedly can do this without physical intervention but some believe that what is really happening is the sensation of orgasum but without the physical musclature ejaculation... its believed that by doing so the body retains some mistical strength or positive force that is expelled during orgasum; because ejaculation used to lead to procreation the loss/waste of such a powerfull fluid was concidered not good...
Fuck I really should not be so full of usless facts and try to be a bit less of a nerd, lol.
Quote by freckledbird
I reckon if it's that painful, you should maybe remove it, allow it to heal fully then have it done again in the future. My navel piercing never really settled and began to grow out, so I removed it.

If there is any sign of infection then dont remove the bar... while its there it holds the hole open and this alows a natural drain of any infected matter such as puss.
It its just painfull and not settiling then you can remove it and let it heal naturally. It does annoy me that some piercers dont tell people the potential down sides of piercings such as migration and the fact that with some people and/or placement they just wont settle. My left nipple had no problems, my right just wouldnt get past the crusties stage so I eventually removed it as there was no way it was going to settle.
Quote by Wishmaster
I think my parents know I'm a swinger but they haven't said anything... yet!
I know they wouldn't be shocked coz they know I'm an open minded kinda person but to say it's genetic??. not so sure about that ... I think being brought up in a liberal environment might have something more to do with it.

My mum's seen my printed stuff, and also when i'm down in thetford I often update her to what i've been shooting... when I first showed her my stuff (even as an adult I was still seeking aproval :shock: ) we got talking about where the models came from.. so I said some where from model sites, others were people I knew from the swinging or BDSM scene... so she asked me what BDSM was.. after outlining it her comment was "hummm, strange, wouldnt have been my kind of thing.. but each to their own" :shock:
I think the strangest thing was not what we were talking about, but the fact that we were talking as adults about adult subjects... even just shy of 40 when i'm at my mums I still feel like a child if that makes any sence at all, lol.
Quote by northwest-cpl

but in the village I lived in, there were two main family names and they over the years had all intermarried...........

Have they produced any good banjo players?

lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
LOL I hadnt read all the thread... someone got there before me :lol:
Quote by Mark
Obviously leaving out people from ... East Anglia where it is commonplace lol

Hey! :shock:
Hang on a mo, you might be onto something here :lol2:
LOL east anglia... the UK's equivelent of deliverence country (cue the dualing banjos music)
the land of...
"Carnt read, cant rite, can drive a traktor tho" and
"ey you got a light girl, ey you got a light"
And before i get slated... I used to live in Acle as a child.
Do not re-format except as a last dititch option!!!!!
There are easyer ways, if you have a real XP disk, not a manufactures "restore" which basically formats, partitions, and then re-installs the pc to the state it was at when you brought it.
New PC's now dont even have the bloody disks except as a pay option, they have a partition on the HD that contains the "restore" which is a bloody good con as you either pay for real disks, or if you decide you dont want the OS and software you cant get a re-fund as even tho the cost is factored into the machine cost there is nothing to return for a re-fund from good old MS, but i digress....
If you have a real "OS" disk, then when it asks you what you want to do, select "new OS" instead of "upgrade" or "repair" then install the new version into a different directory and once you are happy that it all works ok, delete the original OS directory....
This means that you get a clean/new OS install, all your data is still there, and if the new version is missing anything you can re-boot to the old version to get web access to download the drivers you require...
You will need to re-install all your other software and stuff.
Its a good idea for anyone buying a new pc to re-install everything as soon as you get it booted, this means you know it can be done and how.. before you end up with 5 years of data you just cant be without and find its not possible to get it saved or backed up when the OS needs re-instaltion.
I always re-install the OS every 6-12 months on any pc I have to clear out the dross and install the newest drivers and software instead of "upgrading" as the old versions are often left lying about or little bits of them are.
Another good idea is to format/partition your HD into at least 2 "drives" so you have "C" which is about 10gig and "D" which is what ever is left... only put programs on C and put all your data, pictures, files, etc on the D drive... then you can back that up and know that at the worst you format C and re-install the software and then you're up and running as all your data still exists on D
Quote by lucyslovely
By setting your ad to include anonymous emailing you will recieve your replies as PM's on SH thereby containing them all in one place but you will get a notification that PM's are waiting for you to the email account you used when you registered.

I have to disagree with you there .............. i have anonymous emailing set to "ON" ...... and ALL the replies ive had to my ad have come to my email addy ... NOT my pm box confused
Lucy
Thats what they are ment to do anon meanse they dont know your email, but if you reply they do :-)
The original question...
It depends, " " will decide a message is spam using huristics (key words and/or phrases) and known spam addresses... also if an account has been known to be spam but is not the true senders then it figures its hijacked... I've had "returns... not a valid..." and yet I never sent it, someone has used my name/email to spam others.
AOL is the worst for filtering, as it tends not to put emails in a "spam folder" but bounces them and doesnt let the recipient know they had an email... good if it was spam, but crap if the bounce is baised on huristics or a valid address that falls foul of the name or heading check...
A site such as SH is auto blocked by AOL because it forwards a lot of mails, also because a lot of people put "SH add" or "re-sh" or somesuch combination so any other mails with Sh or swingingheaven or somesuch end up being bounced...AOL use a "if we have more than a few mails with a subject of... we shall count it as spam"
do the same, but send it to the spam folder so at least you recieve it and can add or deny the message sender....
oooo if you want to see sexy lasses beating one off the wrist then you need to get down to the old angel in notts on sunday for the hate g8 gig in support of the live 8t.
Im at NG1 toging a fetish/bdsm event from 12, but will be down the angel at about to shoot some bands so anyone that knows me and is there... mines a pint... of iced water as i'm trying to be t-total confused
Quote by jezzay
I'm not a Glastonbury bird but am heading to WOMAD.
Have hired a NARROW BOAT!!!!
Aahhh... shelter, a loo, a shower. That's sophistication.
Jezzay.

I may be wrong, but what happened to the other one... I'm sure they used to be known as "womad and womad?" or was that another one hit wonder from the 80's?
The "Fuck me..." compliment line is ment to be good ;-)
"Fuck me, you have wonderfull tits..."
"Fuck me, what amazng eyes you have..."
"Fuck me, what a body you have..."
IFuck me, what a beautifull face you have...."
but dont be to honest...
"Fuck me, you're fat..." or
"Fuck me, you're ugly..."
is unlikely to have the same response as the previous sugestions, hehehe!
A couple of things, but i'm working from guess work here....
Simplify the problem so that it just reads one record and then writes the result to a file that can be checked with a sutable viewer, or possibly to a canvas capable of displaying the graphic..
Check that the format the data is in is valid by checking with the sender... one querk I can think of would be little endian over big endian (mac/unix/pc inconsistancy perhaps?) The other thing is to get the publisher to de-code their own data as proof they havnt made a mistake in the encodement, perhaps theyve put a wrapper around the data so it needs to be unwrapped first?
As I say, im working on guess work and a little reading years ago on mime and c# programing. Also a couple of years writing data to de-code marc bibliograpic data from non IBM machines, boy was that fun... NOT, lol.
Quote by midlandsman1970
I remember seeing a documentary about religion that said the reason for the invention of marriage and for monks and nuns abstaining from sex was due to STD's being rife, before religion there was no marriage. Thats why it was deemed important for both men and women to be virgins when they got married and the reason for not commiting adultery.
Also the reason why we hurt when a couple split is animal instinct, a woman falls out of love quicker than a man because men leave by nature, but men stay in love longer so they will return, its like the lion wandering the plains and going back each season to mate.
This is how humans used to be, we were animals once.
I used to be religious but the older i got and the more i learned the less i believed so now im not religious at all, but i do respect others views, mine are Darwinian, if there is a heaven n hell i want to go to the one where there is eternal sex :twisted:

My late father being a rev, and my mum a teacher with a clasical lit and history degreee and my being a pervert... I think I can add a bit to this, lol.
The absitnance of sex my the clergy was for a number of reasons some valid and some not, it was felt that having sex and potential procreation would detract from the religious studies that continue while being a member of the cloth, also if a child were born then it could lead to the loss of a member of the cloth.. it was also a test of strenght and will power to abstain from an instinct also by imposing many rules the church tried to hold absolute power (and as we see from the debarcle that has happened in the RC church instinct overides religion hands down) also as same sex sex had been deemed to be wrong the church realised that with the absence of the opersite sex humans like animals resort to mutual same sex pleasure, so a blanket ban supposedly solved that problem, lol.
Marrage was created as a way to know who was intitled to inherit title and lands, as "law" was created over and above religious doctrine it specifically excluded iligitimate children from inheriting... religion itself just didnt reconise the fact that someone within the sanctity of marrage would go outside... it was also usefull because if no children were born or only women then the lands and title would revert to either the state or the church and lets not forget that proof of parentage was impossible... its not that long ago that if a child born within a family was not the biological child of the husband the law disreguarded that fact where finantial support was concerned should the marrage be disolved; blood, to a degree, and now DNA testing has meant that as parentage can be proved to a reasonable degree the law had to be amended to reconise absolute parentage instead of assumed parentage.
As for love, partnering, etc... I could probably write a thesis, lol.
But neither men nor women are that much different when it comes to playing arround and getting a bit on the side... Verbal poles are useless as people have the ability to lie, and will, lol... DNA testing is starting to show that between 30 and 50% of children born within marrage or the duration of a partnership are not the biological children of the male. There will be some skewing of the results due to the fact that DNA testing does tend to happen upon seperation so that gut feelings about parentage are expressed where as during the partnership that feeling is ignored or repressed for what ever reason... The co-relation to this is that partnered males also play around with single and partnered females... Only a strog sence of commitment to sociital or religious imposed morals prevents more people having sex outside a partnership, that and the fact that additional ofspring outside the partnership will place a finantial and emotional burdon on the partnership.
Some years back I knew a NSA couple where the lady got pregnant in a smart car... Took me 6 months before someone pointed out that it wasnt "smart" as in "posh/good/expensive" but was actually a "Smart car.." now how the fuck they managed to shag in that thing is beyond me!
It was a cool ad, got the message across and probably apealed to the guys that were to matcho to bother... but seriosuly... did she have to bite the plum at the end... brought tears to me eyes :shock:
With the step mum from hell my chat up line was "Sorry, but you have the biggest and most amazing pair of tits I have ever seen so please forgive me if I dont look you in the eyes very often" She was a 34 E so they were quite imressive, lol, and I was pissed as a fart!
With laddos mum it was "I know you're going with my mate... but if it dont work out I have some heavy metal records that you can come and listen to"
God... just remembered what my chat up line with my first girlfriend was and the lass I lost my verginity to... "Come sit on my lap and we'll talk about the first thing that comes up" at a local disco... I was 17 and she was 15... arrr sweet youth!
Now adays I dont tend to use chat up lines, but do tend to be honest if n when things just happen... I always find "Fuck you are so sexy" works well... for some reason "I'm a photographer and I'd love you naked in my studio" doesnt work very well, hehehe
Quote by roger743
To remove traces of deleted items you must over write them. This process is very time consuming as every single binary bit must be overridden time and time again. 1's and 0's, 1's and 0's. This makes it impossible for even the most determind to locate it.

Actually, even when overwritten there can be magnetic traces of the old data left on the disc and data can be recovered by someone with enough (a) skill and (b) determination. To ensure complete deletion the area of the disk has to be overwritten several times with specially-formatted data.
Of course, unless MI5 are likely to be getting intimate with your hard disc, this probably isn't worth worrying about.
Its also worth noting that often deleting a file only removes a tiny entry in the index but leaves the data portion of the file intact if not easily accessable... which is how come you can get "un-delete" utilities. I'm not sure, but I was lead to believe that any disk with NTFS (NT, XP, 2000) would overwrite the data portion with 0's but i;m not as convinced as I've seen un-deletes and un-formats for thoes operating systems, but dont know if or how they work, or if there is some hidden key in the registry that needs to be set to do a full delete and not an index delete.
Also remember to either "shift-del" or empty the trash can.... a lot of people dont lol
Your "auto complete" entries are hidden in the registry... so even if you delete the histroy and the cache you have to remember to remove them or people at the least can see what sites you visit.
Personally, if you have nothng ilegal on the pc, whats the worse they can do? take the piss? if your position is such that being on adult sites is detrimental then (with hind sight) dont do it using a pc that is linked to work etc...
What I want to know is why couples dont read the adds... I mean, I ask you, I sometimes place an advert in the looking for couples section and get not one reply... guess they must be to busy having sex while looking at photos of my dick to actually have the time to reply and get me involved lol
Quote by Fred aka Medic 1
E-Bay have taken off auction ALL Live 8 tickets.

Which will still not stop the touts outside the venue... and lets face it... bob, spice girls, will make money from this due to publicity and residual sales, that may not be the personal reasons for doing the gigs but they will... (I actually have a lot of respect for bob due to his outspoken views on UK family law, and other issues) but lets face it, even the guy who originally did road to amarillo has made money from the red nose song due to potential new releases and also sales of back albums, and new publicity.
to put things into proportion.... if the take after BT cut on the texts is about 2.4 mill... thats about three to four times the cost of a smart(ish) bomb droped on iraq and a fraction of the 3 billion rebate we get from the EU and billions we paid out to fight desert storm and the current confict.
While I can see the idea of wipeing the debt via the world bank... the problem is what happens in 1-12-48 months when these countries need money... do we say feck off you're a bad debt? or do we give the cash and then have the same problem some months after? and also no matter how nice we in the "rich" world are... theres a lot of countries out there that take the aid and then kill people with what they can buy with it.
so a few e-bay people making 100-700 (legit bids) is nothing in comparison.....
Quote by micky moose
thanx to everyone who have placed a thread on this sensitive subject.
regardless of all the different views people have expressed the answer is the same...the law surrounding this matter is a shambles and needs to be changed.
parents need to focus on the important issue of ther childrens needs and work together to insure ther children grow up with the love and respect they deserve.
children dont understand problems thats an adult thing and should remain so.
thanx again your beautiful x cool

Agree, agree, and agree... the problem is the law (childrens act) was written very badly and does not as promised "put the rights of the child first" and also is in conflict with HR law.
The above excluded... lets face it, people dont break up for no reason and as such people will "walk away" or "block access" to either break all ties with the ex, or to get back at the ex... of thoes that fight back against this, within 4 years nearly 80% loose contact with the children another problem with the courts (under the CA) is they refuse to make an order where no order is preferable... ie, change of residency or time alotment is based on the current status-quo, so if the resident parent has 100% time and is totaly nutts then they wont change that if they really dont have to... ocasionally the resident is proven nutts by the CWO but they do have to be bonkers beyond the extreem... also the presumption/bias is that mothers are naturally best with the kids, and men are crap parents, 's, and wife batterers... strange when you concider that parential infanticide is carried out predominantly by women, infanticide by men however is predominantly carried out by a non-biological "parent," such as a new partner.
The other thing wrong with the CA and "family matters" is that they are held in closed court away from public opion and scrutiny and only on apeal do they end up in open court, so all the conflict is hidden aways from the public eye; again against HR law so the courts just rubber stamp things and never impose penalties against parents breaking court orders, or making judgments in general, as they can get away with it with impunity and no one saying... hang on a min, that is wrong... and by siding with "defaults" if anything does go wrong with the resident parent they have no comeback, making a change of residency leaves them open to a wong judgment issue down the line.
Bitter.. me... na... my ex if a junkie but hey... the courts felt that she was best to look after my other two kids even tho I had looked after laddo for 2 years before I met her, and I was a tipical man that could never look after kids as I didnt have a womb, didnt carry the kids for 9 months and had probably beaten seven bells of shit out of her just for the fun of it as she was a defencless woman. CBS!
The main problem with notts and derby areas is the fact that the council are a bunch of anal retentive prats who aer more worried about imposing their moral judgment than actually doing something progressive that may infact help and do some good, such as "tolerated zones." now found in other cities.
They only passed a licence for a true "adult" shop by accident, then had to go to court and were told that they were not there to stand in moral judgment, only practical, so couldnt revoke the licence, had they turned down the application at the begining then the shop probably wouldnt have bothered to go to court but by that time money had been invested in the property, ferbishments, etc.
Most "swingers" clubs are actually "health clubs" but the police and council turn a blind eye... im not sure if la-chambras claim to be the only licenced swingers club is strictly true in the way people think, ie its listed as a swingers club, but rather the fact that it has a drinks licence... Swingers clubs dont usually have drinks licences because they can then be closed under the disordlery house (i believe) rules. Potentially an owner could be done for living of imoral earnings (it doesnt just apply to pimping, renting a flat knowing the person was using it for imoral gain could get you done!) All that said, I believe that the recient criminal justice act and amendments allows a lot more freedom and trys to stear away from using words such as "moral," and instead clarify what and what is not concidered to be acceptable in defined law.
Quote by naughtynymphos1
This is the most outragious aspect of the law when it comes to fathers rights. If you are married when your child is born then you both have equal parental responsibility and access can easily be achieved. But when a deceitful, spiteful ex refuses to even name her child's father on the birth certificate and then subsequently does NOT marry him before the birth the poor guy has a zeros chance in hell of getting anything close to a suitable arrangement for access.......... except when the 'Mother' wants financial support from him.

Blimey there deffo some passion in ur writing lol
i do agree with what u say but if u read down this thread i'll think u'll find more have commented on how the fathers don't even want to see the kids than from men saying they can't and want to, and i think u'll find this is commen i know lots of cplz who have broken up and the dads seen to forget they have kids, or just leave like its taken for granted its the womans job to have the kids after a break up, i think in a break up the job of the kids is a 50/50 and any woman who refused the kids dad access is daft as far as i can see i mean free babysitter ffs lol
I think u also have to take into account of what happens behind closed door sometimes its not as easy as hes the dad he has rights, sometimes u have 2 think about why they have split in the first place, things aren't always as clear as they may seem smile
Arrr but due to the fact the CSA is designed to transfer money from the non-resident to the resident parent its in a womans finantial interest to give less access or allow day time access while retaining the night/bed time... even with 50/50 split the money goes to the one with the child benifit book... so you could have a resident parent on, or having, millions and the non resident on a low wage still transfering money to the resident... the CSA is not about support, its about moving money from one to the other not about sharing time or distributing money so both parents can support and care for the child.
I know a couple of dads who actuially have more time with the children than the mum, but as the kids are dropped of in the evening and then bedded at the mums the csa gives her the money... stupid huh!
The law should enshrine 50/50 shared care as the default, then work out the best way of shifting money between both parents to equalise the situation and then allow the parents to negotiate more or less time so if one wanted to work or save on child care then in effect they could ask the other to have the child more of the time in exchange for paying more money over.... cant play games that way, and also the shit that lord justice wolf, i believe, said about "a child needs one major parent and one they visit ither wise they do not know the rules" is a total load of absolute fucking moronic crap... children live with differing rule sets every day, from the parents (even living together) from school, from social situations with peers, and so on... she aint a fucking god damn clue! Obviously if one parent lives in scotland and one in london its not practical, bust should both live withing a reasonable distance of the shcool and/or peers then both parents could share 50/50 either on a weekly basis or another that suits both parents.
Quote by Wishmaster
My daughter was born 24 years ago, we were not married and split up (her decision) while she was pregnant.
I was happy to support the baby, at the time of registering the birth she did not want my name on the birth certificate. I payed money to them each week, she was in a relationship with another man. I wanted to see my daughter for her to know her father, she refused access but still wanted support, eventualy I took her to court in order to gain access and formalise support.
Here is the Killer she then decided to marry her partner and he to adopt my daughter, I had no say in the matter, in one foul swoop I lost my access and my daughter. I gather it could still happen to unmarried fathers today.
I still miss her and have toys and photos from the last time I saw her at age 3.
Not all men desert there children, as a solicitor said at the time you have 10% of the law only, it does not seem to have changed much in over 20 years

This is the most outragious aspect of the law when it comes to fathers rights. If you are married when your child is born then you both have equal parental responsibility and access can easily be achieved. But when a deceitful, spiteful ex refuses to even name her child's father on the birth certificate and then subsequently does NOT marry him before the birth the poor guy has a zeros chance in hell of getting anything close to a suitable arrangement for access.......... except when the 'Mother' wants financial support from him.
It's time the law regarding this matter was looked at under a fine microscope and repealed/amended to ensure that a father has as much rights as the mother when it comes to seeing his children regardless of financial circumstances.

Marrage after the birth to the bio father automatically legitimises the child to the father.
A father with PR adopts the same rights as a married father to the child and has to be consulted with reguard to adoption, removal from the country, etc... however PR can be revoked as it is only granted...
I really cant be arsed to go into the shit with my ex and the thousands I spent but in the end it was worthless due to parential ailination syndrome... the sadest thing is, when our kids have relational problems shes going to be saying "oh my poor kids, how could she/he do that" not realising she did the same to me and our kids... hopefully with time and age they will try to get back in contact... but i#'m not holding my breath.
Quote by marmalaid
You are correct that it is an issue that was spoken about by Mal (i think) a few months ago, in Internet Explorer you can't highlight a little bit, but in Firefox you can.
But if all you wanted to do was quote I'll take off my pedantic sandals (actually, fuck it, I'll leave them on and wait for some other bastard to take them off biggrin )

Yeah, it was in response to another post about a "bug" i think... There was no real conclusion, but I think its probably to do with IE mis-interpriting the CSS and DIV statements, or buried within all the styles and stuff there is something that is deliberatly locking the selection.
I know there are some things that IE does correctly, and Mac's dont wtih reguard to HTML... as Vix's pointed out some errors on my site that her mac wasnt displaying, but were ok on my PC and were to the standards arbutnobutifbutthenbutdobut's, lol.
Normally HTML pages are concidered to be non-editable text documents, but for some reason this site is rendered as text displayed as graphic as you cannot place the cursor, and the right click imediatly de-selects any selected text not in an edit window.
ok now i've proved i'm a nerd, i'm off to buy some more blank cd's to store my collection of dirty mpegs on, lol.
Quote by kinkyluton
now its clear why ntl. have made my broadband go from 750k to 2Mb..and my upload speed 128k go up to 200k...they say
this is part of ongoing commitment to provide the best choice and value broadband service in the uk............... confused

They will also now be enforcing the "traffic limits" upload+download cap of 1gig (or was it 2) a day... chears NTL at 750 I couldnt manage to reach that limit but now you have speeded it up you are going to stop me using the service full time and potentially terminate my account for usage abuse over the traffic limit.
Upload speeds are i believe limitied by the way the cable system works as it was never really intended to be a two way system... rather a limited upload system to send TV channel selection, device connection data, and voice, with a full download the otherway to send the tv broadcasts and on demand films.
Quote by Jags
The ONLY person to bring racism into the conversation was Judy. Until then the discussion was free of bigotry. There is no point in saying that the virus originated on the African continent, it doesn't matter much where it started. Fact is that it was seen first in America, identified in gay men. Now, do we have a go at gay men and say if it weren't for them then we wouldn't have the problem now?? Of course not, homophobia is just as not nice as racism.

"Top Story: The United States holds the dubious distinction of being the industrialized nation with the highest rate of death and disability due to sexually transmitted diseases, according to today’s issue of the journal Sexually Transmitted Infections. The study cites AIDS and Cervical Cancer as being the diseases that are the most responsible for the USA’s high numbers. Both AIDS and Cervical Cancer are caused by viruses that are transmitted via sexual contact.

Without reading the last page from this one...
That is what I was going to post... it was first identified and most spread through the gay comunity and exceptionally affected the sanfranciso area... thats not to say it was there first, or even that that was the major area of infection... just that that was the point at which people woke up and realised that something was amiss, it was then that the scientific comunity realised, or publicised, a problem where a "std" could and would cause death within a relatively short space of time as apposed to a STD that caused death via complications post infection.
There have been documented incidences of people being born with imunity defeciencies in the past... what is to say that the "boy in the bubble" (a 70-80s? film) was not the first.. it seems more likely than some idea that it was first introduced by monkeys, or any other fancifull idea...
Yes AIDS does seem to be a bigger problem in the third world, but not through colour or creed but because awareness is lacking and also that HIV requires both a reduced "healthy lifestyle" (and i think living well below what we in the uk concider a subsistance/benifit living to be non-healthy) and also it piggy backs many other infections that are almost iradicated in the west, it tends to require someone to be ill before it can take a hold as the genetic virus is not that strong when not actually within the person infected; were it to mutate to a virus that could survive as an air born particulate then we would be in serious trouble... the bubonic plague was supposed to be flea (ie blood) transfered, but the newmonic (spelling) plague was when the bubonic blague had mutated into an air born virus that coughs and spital could cause infection.
I dont have a problem with "screening" per say... but like vaxination it will only work if a large proportion of people indiginious also are screned... It would reuqire 90+% of the uk to be tested and thoes infected notified... with vaxination its a case of some will be ill, some may even die, but there is a common good over and above thoes that would die or be infected via the original infection... such as small pox, TB, measles, mumps, rubella, typhoid, etc...
As there is no cure or vaxination against HIV, perhaps there should be a mas testing of the UK populus... can you see that hapening, no neither can I! but HMG regularally say "you've got to have the MMR" and its never questioned and where it is... the side effects do seem to less worse than the potential problems, people still see measles as a few spots and not something that does kill or with serious problems after.
Or perhaps we should give up on vaxinations and prevention and just go for the real heard imunity of thoes that dont die or have a natural imunity will survive... the advocates of the heard theory really dont seem to understand that they, or their kids, will will have a good chance of not living to a point where they can pass on their genetics and that death, or culling of the heard, is more natural than we as humans are prepaird to accept.
I watched it with mell, and blody enjoied it, lol.
Levines song was ok, but just sounded like a chorus repeated and infinitum....
I wanted the Glam rock country to win, lol, or the one with the granny, hehehe
The thing I most noted was not the scoring, although there was some definate "bias" going on in the eastern block's(1) but more the fact that all these other countries that used to only play "local" music have now broken into the rock and pop era... and a hell of a lot of them sung in english, that would never have happend a few years ago!
If the uk/england (and via association the USofA) is so hated then why sing in english and have such a bias towards the UK pop and rock sounds of the 80's.
With the advent of population voting, as apposed to panel judges, is was very obvious that the bias was more towards a sound and style... and not location and "mutual friendly countries" in most cases... Had 90% of the songs charted in the UK then they would not have been overly thought of as "foreign," although perhaps a little bit dated in the UK music scene... a good few of the songs had ideas sampled from a lot of the pop/rock of the 80's uk scene as I spent a heck of a lot of the time saying "i know this from somewhere" and trying to decide what original song it sounded like... the ballard from the bigger lass had serious celion-deon undertones... the all girl rock group were a mix of freddy M when he did his ballard with the opera singer and also "Europe" (as were a lot of the 'rock' sounds) and clasical music that has been "rockified" (does anyone own a 'clasic rock' album where they took the originals and re-worked with a rock slant?)
A lot of the songs also had a huge "bollywood" sound and also irish "riverdance" feel to them and one would not have been out of place had it been a song in Chicargo! Even the rushian entry (I believe) was very much in the style of the US sound and made references to the US in a good way... my fave apart from the granny (muldavior?) and the glam rock was the "rapping" about the strugles and then freedom of one of the oppressed post soviet states.... talk about a shift in style and a total turn around in a post opressive (as we in the west saw it) country!
Its a shame that even with teliphone voting people cant vote, or not, for their own country... I wonder what the votes where for real.... I know I, mel, and a few others would not have voted for our entry in comparison to the other songs in the competition.
I do think however that every country eligible shoud be allowed to present their songs, and also that all eligible should be allowed to vote... not a sub section of songs as were shown, or only thoes presented should be allowed to vote.
It may be that i'm getting old and I cant remember things well, but I'm sure a few years back that each country would vote on every other country, not just a 1-12 with 11 missing, lol, as im sure I remember the points coming in and some countries being voted "niul powa" so every entry was scored? or is that just my failing memory?
(1) that said... is that because of the original asociation or because they all like the same styles? "rock and pop and punk" have always been the underground sound of disasociated "yoof!"
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Just for the record:
One of the reasons the ad was deleted was because the advertiser had two ads in two different categories. One mentioned HIV, the other one didn't.
Make of that what you will !! confused :? :? :?

OK, so had the add(s) both been as up front... my personal take on it would have been...
Honesty is the best policy... true something such as being HIV+ or in the AIDS stage (still not 100% determined to be the same thing) is more than likely to reduce anyones chances of swining... but at the very least it gives any concerned party the opertunity to say... "ok, condoms... known risk..." or were it not mentioned then it would be up to someone/couple/whatever to guess at the risk factor even if condoms were required as a matter of course.
It may seem wrong, but while I (not stating for mel here, and as we are only playing as a couple) could play protected with an un-known quantity... I would be wary playing with someone who was openly HIV+
My reasons are this....
Asuming the person/couple had no idea of their STD status then I/We would have a statistical chance during any condom break, transmission of bodily fluids, etc. of catching somehting (any form of STI(D)) Having unprotected sex with someone(s) who knew they were "clean" up to a given date would be a different statistical chance of I/us catching something, and playing with a known STD positive would have yet another statistical chance of catching something....
Some of us when offered sex on a plate will jump at the chance, some of us will use protection and demand a potential un-protected partner has a STI check, some will decide that sex with a single fem is less risky than a single guy, some will ask for a life history before even taking their coats off, and a cehck up at the clinic, and want to know the bio heritage, lord and gentry, of any couplings, lol.
Perhaps for me personally thats a bit "out of sight out of mind," but at least the choice is made baised on the stauts and known facts!
I have seen adds on gaydar that state HIV+ and only loking for other HIV+ people, and i've also seen adds looking "generally" and I have to commend these people for ebing up front and honest about their status and giving people an informed choice... one of the reasons i've in the past said i've had gonerrehor (spelling) be it bad luck, the act of gods, or just simple stupidity in not using condoms 100% of the time.... some things happen, its a statistical chance!
One couple could play with 1000 others and never have so much as a pain, another couple play the first time an both have a drip.... We talk of HIV as if its the end of life... but how many have been affected by Clamida that while not personaly life destroying has fecked up any chance of creating new life!
Also HIV is no more "problimatic" than syphilus or herpies (causes HIPV cancer in women) and the multitude of other STD's it it seen as a "death warrent" yet there are a lot of what used to be called "the clap" that are as equally destructive either personally or passed on.
HIV was only really reconised due to is apparent selectiveness, and the fact that ihe infection was personally destructive in a potentiaally short space of time!
With hind sight.... HIV is currently a bigger problem globally for "hetrosexual" people than "gays" as was first presented, world wide the infection rates for "hetro;s" far exceeds that of the suposedly gay comunity!
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Ditched the rabbit for a pulsatron!
Yum-mmmeeeee wink
Cathy x

LoL was going to say... nothing beats a pulsatron ;-)
But you have to be carefull with the wire that goes into the buzzy bits... it breaks... and for the sake of a fraction of a pence for a grommit they, the manufacturers, should stump up that concidering its 40+ quid cost price!
"Bell wire" is not that strong... its the most common complaint i've heard about it is the wire breaks as it enters the vibe bit and the bastards super glue them shut so you cant even do a diy job to fix the break
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You've all misssed the point, its not about fake pictures, the question is about why people put fake pis on their ads.
We dont, we dont use any pis, we have people that take pis out of our ad.

I think someone has nicked his "C" from the keyboard, dont you hate it when that happens, lol.
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Hi Maia, who is this dirty Dick fellow?
John
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definitely not you, John... biggrin
Not being english myself, I wonder if this tendency to associate sex as something dirty is an English one?
I think it was an american (woody alen?) who said "sex is dirty, if its done correctly"