Hummmmm a huge area of grey....
What about a couple that swing and also have a paid for view web site or post the photos to a paid site and earn a commision?
What about a couple that organise "greedy girls" where basically the club gets loads of paying guys and the couple/lass get a fair wack of that in commision?
What about a couple or single model who charges for a photo shoot, but knows some amatures "photograhpers" are only really paying for the perve factor not to get great photos?
What about a couple that expect the guy to book and pay for a hotel room.... or even as simple as bring their own condoms as the couple dont want to pay for them...
Mind you, thats probably why I will die a very poor, lol, as a proportion of what I do comes from the swinging or bdsm scene and I'm not nearly clinical enough to say "you want me, you pay" lol, my lad will peobably make his fortune when i'm gone tho, lol.
If you want to see how soft i am, you have to check out the write up in the "libby" gallery... i do like it when people pay even tho I will do something for free, lololol.
I've used ICQ in the past, but compaired to the ease of use and the little niceties of and msn (it may have changed) its always been very raw and basic in its use (ie text only) and a real bitch to set up initally.
msn and both now suffer from the adverts and really crap use of the screen estate, even on a 1600/1200 screen i cant see half the users I used to with older versions.
The old MSN chat used to be built over ICQ and ?MIRC? which was a text baised system and that worked really well but it was limited in the mirc scripting side of things which was very powerfull (you could use mirc to chat in msn chat rooms and for "bots") but was to complex for most users and a pain to set up and register... the chat room in here can be accessed via mirc but you need loads of details and registeration to make it work.
The big problem is most of these free clients have now gone chargable, at the moment msn and yahooo are free, when they start charging for use then i'll find something else if there is anything still free, lol, if not then i'll write my own chat/messenger system and use it after emails have been exchanged its so simple to write and baised on simple send/ack protocols that most development languages have it built in, lol. (it came from the parc labs, i believe, where apple and ms gleaned most of their stuff for the nerds out there, lol)
I have dated and also done the ocasional "chat up" but...
I have always admired a couple that swing and do it correctly (the couple who were my "teachers (1)" are still together and still very much in love and a couple and that in a way is a point that I have missed (swinging aside) in my non-swinging relationships.
I have also swung as a couple, so have experienced things from the other side where someone I love(d) was with someone else and I was with another, or we were both with the same single.
Since seeing it from the couples POV I would not want a non-swinging relationship, and one of the first things I say during the tipical "chat up;" "getting to know you..." or dating is who I am... I'm a guy that swings... Its hardly "coming out" in the sence that I dont feel a need to tell my mum, but then again I dont need to tell my mum I like to have sex, lol, but to me I'd rather come out with it there and then, and have the person say "I'm just going to the toilet" and never see them again; I have asked the pub owner to nail the window in the girls toilets shut but hes adimant he wont, lol! (thats may be jokey, but its not far from the truth, lol)
I enjoy being exhinitionist and voyeristic so swinging does allow me to enjoy both of thoes, I am also Bi sexual (not bi-emotional) and have in the past hidden that side of myself and not partaken so to speak, when i've been in a "standard" relationship.... so again swinging can when things are right allow me to explore and enjoy that side of myself and not have to hide it when in a commited relationship. It does so piss me off when a woman can be "bi" and no one batts an eyelid and a straight woman wont worry that she will suddenly be attacked by a "carpet muncher" when they know the other woman is bi, but couples assume a bi guy in a couple, or guys in general assume, that a bi guy will try to jump them... like hang on, talk about an inflated ego! bi guy=they want my arse, like yeah as if, lol.
But a simple question such as "would you vannila date" is not as simple as its first stated! there are so many variations... My personal response would be, "yes..." but by the end of the first date they would know; then it would be up to them if it made it to a second date and if it may progress to a sexual relationship in the future.... I would rather loose the second date or the sex than be in a situation where I had to play away or end up 6-12-48 months down the line when I want to swing or be more open and not say anything because I dont want to loose the person im with... and lets face it, if thats the case it will go tits up at some point in the future, or you have to live your whole life as a lie!
Personally I see nothing wrong with your advert, its not agressive nor does it follow the "1-2-3" tick boxes that some do...
its clear, concise and states what you want.
you cant do any more than that... cept weed the real from the fake replys.
Talking to others.. once you take out the fake spam adds, the never going to, then the curious, would like to try but never done before...
the hookup of the various groups in the adverts section are about the same for C4M, C4C,, M4F, the odds go down for C4F and any other combination... M4M while seemingly having a huge likely hood (heck sterio type says m and m is a forgone conclusion) the reality is that 90% bottle, 8^ come to nothing, and 2% may or may not.... Couples for bi-males seem to have the best responses as if a guy can say "i'm bi" hes already ok with his sexuality (but as before taking out the fakes, and the i've not but always wondered, lol.) so is more likely to turn up.
C4C does get a good inital response... but tends to drop play wise after an initial social meet as the combination of F1 fancies M2 and F2+F1 and M1 likes M2 (assuming not a totaly bi couple) and F1 fancies F2) makes the whole 4 people liking or fancying each other a huge statistical nightmare, lol.
What this does all say is that swinging is not "sex" and "a fucks a fuck" it is about interplay and if not love or desire at the minimum is about sexual attraction with the condition if there is not a click or a like then the other does not play so no one plays (excluding cuckolds (M or F) or peole that could/are voyeristic so wile they may not play with x are happy to watch their partner with x)
Where I do think that swingers differ from say a "fancy comin back to mine..." is that its more open, booze plays less part and the attraction has to be recipricated... it takes time and respect unless its someone/a couple that is looking for a spare fanny/dick, lol.
That said, is there a problem with people looking for a spare x/z? if they let it be known!
hey while I may have dropped out of life... perhaps I could get a phd in swigning sociologie, lmaooooooo
It sounds like your graphics card driver is still seeing the old resolution (as you quoted it was like wide screen) and what is happening is your new monitor is now "bending" to fit that wide screen profile...
The figures you quote 1024/960 do some sums and see if it nearly equates to the wide screen dimentions!
If this is the case, right click on the "my computer" click properties>harware>(device manager) device manager
right click on monitors, then click "scan for hardware changes" and see if it then re-detects the new monitor...
you'll know cos when you the thing you do to get the dispaly so you can change the resolution and settings, there should be a whole new load of settings.
Also get an update (or waht ever version you have) for your graphics card if the above fails, often deleting (delete devics, graphics card) and re-installing the graphics card drivers will re-detect the monitor correctly (bit of a round about way, but there is a kaka logic in there lol)
The bluring is the monitor trying to fix a non-standard dimention (old monitor) into its own dimentions and getting mis-alignments on the didi lil holes in the mask (assuming crt) or trying to re-map pixel locations (assuming lcd).
You should also always push the re-fresh/sync up to the max the monitor will take as the higher it is, the less flicker... including flicker you cannot really see that causes headaches (look at a monitor with you head facing side ways (90- deg) to it and just using the corner of your vision if theres flicker you can end up with problems!)
(in win200 its in the advanced properties on the settings tab)
hope this gives some ideas and help :-)
Yeah, the togs and models on another site I use felt it was rather shite.
I belive/heard they had booked the venue nearly 3 years in advance but failed to promote it properly and are now in a hump saying they wont hold another in manchester... well DOH!
If the problem is what I think it is, then the "save as" doesnt work correctly.... it only allows for bmp, or just ignores what you select and goes ahead and bmp.s it.
If you empty the temp cache (tools, internet options, temp files, delete files) then all should start working again.
Another thing is that this is some times worse when the hard drive is getting close to being full.
BG, we know where you live... and if you were silly enough to use wonkdows to actually run your security system... we can get to you, reboot the ssytems, and get out and no one will know... now if you were using a mac then we couldnt because macs are limited in what they can do so non one would use them in a security system... if they were lynux then it would have taken 20 years to develop via commity and different inputs and there would be 300 versions of the OS, 4000 versions of the user interface, and 1000 versions of the security system, and all would be crackable using the "let me in" profile, lol.
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A bit like watching some of the old horrors (ie amative) and finding that oddly more scary than the re-make :shock: 
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Perhaps sir would like to visit the thread entitled " An announcement about the future of SH ". Alternatively sir might like to check his calender!
