My one abiding memory of the old traffic wardens was, when I was younger there was a female warden who I knew in town, She was a flighty devil in her 40s who, when was told by a male driver she was booking, to f*** you, her answer was, well if you want to settle this out of court (wink) he shut up quick.
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stevio
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 65
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Biwelsh he I do not believe he is speaking for the whole of the UK however, he is stating what appears to be the opinion of a large percentage of the population.
He is allowed his opinion
Medical staff teachers crucial workers etc from abroad, agreed they can help enrich our lifes and society but not all are that kind of migrant some are spongers and offer nothing prefering to create there own gettos, surely you do not see that as a possitive for society
I repeat well done leeds lad
He is allowed his opinion
Medical staff teachers crucial workers etc from abroad, agreed they can help enrich our lifes and society but not all are that kind of migrant some are spongers and offer nothing prefering to create there own gettos, surely you do not see that as a possitive for society
I repeat well done leeds lad
Fabio the fact that it makes you anfry probably strengthens the point i am making, which is that if you choose to speak out you run the risk of being accused of racism, when perhaps A you may be telling the truth that the minority do not want to here.
Also surely in a democracy the majority should rule not adapt to the minority.
I do appologise if this does annoy you but I and the rest of the population who feel this way have the right to state these views
Also surely in a democracy the majority should rule not adapt to the minority.
I do appologise if this does annoy you but I and the rest of the population who feel this way have the right to state these views
It strikes me that once again leedslad if you try to put forward an opinion about the state of the country and immigration you will be accused of racism. You nad all of us in a democracy should be allowed to voice that opinion and not be insulted by small minded individuals that will always look for racism in what is said
You keep going fella, voice it how you feel it
You keep going fella, voice it how you feel it
Leeds lad I am with you and I am in my mid 40s. What I thonk many are missing is the point that if we visit a country we are expected to conform with there standards, however it seems that new immigranrs and even second generation incomers expect there way of life to take prcidence.
I not only blame the goverment for this situation but the liberal idealists. lets face it even Trevor Philips the head of race equality a black man him self felt that it had encouraged issolationism, this led to him being called a racist.
You are right I do not intend to see my son raised in an atmosphere of violance and a society that believes in take and screw the rest.
They are to recieve the last of my 40% tax payments in the next few months as we are upping sticks and going abroad to find a better life.
Incidentaly I have spoken out and tryed to change things in this country for the last few years but with the attitude of many inhabitants of the UK who feel that theyu have no responsability for there income or life I have just decided to give it all to the free loaders,
Life it to short to worry about this country, our life will be as we make it not what others say and legislate it should be
I not only blame the goverment for this situation but the liberal idealists. lets face it even Trevor Philips the head of race equality a black man him self felt that it had encouraged issolationism, this led to him being called a racist.
You are right I do not intend to see my son raised in an atmosphere of violance and a society that believes in take and screw the rest.
They are to recieve the last of my 40% tax payments in the next few months as we are upping sticks and going abroad to find a better life.
Incidentaly I have spoken out and tryed to change things in this country for the last few years but with the attitude of many inhabitants of the UK who feel that theyu have no responsability for there income or life I have just decided to give it all to the free loaders,
Life it to short to worry about this country, our life will be as we make it not what others say and legislate it should be
Thanks for the positive responces to my thread reply, it does concern me that it is still happening after 20years.
It is obvious that in all walks of life there are some feckless fathers and it appears mothers, but my point is that the law should be equal regardless of marital status.
The fact that the women hold the power to deny the right of a man to his own children is not just cruel on him but on the children.
I have not seen my daughter in 20 years, although I know she is well as I commision a report on an annual basis from an investigator.
To try and introduce myself into her life now after she has only known her addopted father would I feel be cruel to both her and my wife and family now.
It still does not stop the pain and wanting that I feel.
It is obvious that in all walks of life there are some feckless fathers and it appears mothers, but my point is that the law should be equal regardless of marital status.
The fact that the women hold the power to deny the right of a man to his own children is not just cruel on him but on the children.
I have not seen my daughter in 20 years, although I know she is well as I commision a report on an annual basis from an investigator.
To try and introduce myself into her life now after she has only known her addopted father would I feel be cruel to both her and my wife and family now.
It still does not stop the pain and wanting that I feel.
My daughter was born 24 years ago, we were not married and split up (her decision) while she was pregnant.
I was happy to support the baby, at the time of registering the birth she did not want my name on the birth certificate. I payed money to them each week, she was in a relationship with another man. I wanted to see my daughter for her to know her father, she refused access but still wanted support, eventualy I took her to court in order to gain access and formalise support.
Here is the Killer she then decided to marry her partner and he to adopt my daughter, I had no say in the matter, in one foul swoop I lost my access and my daughter. I gather it could still happen to unmarried fathers today.
I still miss her and have toys and photos from the last time I saw her at age 3.
Not all men desert there children, as a solicitor said at the time you have 10% of the law only, it does not seem to have changed much in over 20 years
I was happy to support the baby, at the time of registering the birth she did not want my name on the birth certificate. I payed money to them each week, she was in a relationship with another man. I wanted to see my daughter for her to know her father, she refused access but still wanted support, eventualy I took her to court in order to gain access and formalise support.
Here is the Killer she then decided to marry her partner and he to adopt my daughter, I had no say in the matter, in one foul swoop I lost my access and my daughter. I gather it could still happen to unmarried fathers today.
I still miss her and have toys and photos from the last time I saw her at age 3.
Not all men desert there children, as a solicitor said at the time you have 10% of the law only, it does not seem to have changed much in over 20 years
Very well said well busty babe, though people may not agree with you say, they must agree you put your point of view in a clear concise way.
I must admit one thing and that is that I have a daughter who was adopted, I have not seen her for over 20 years.
I would rather know she has had a chance of life than to know she was never born.
As a father of a child in that situation some of you ladies may feel I dont have the same attachment as a mother an I guess you may be right, but that does not feel like it when I look at her photo when she was a baby.
I still hold the view that it is a womans right to choose, however as wbb says perhaps it is to easy I dont know, it is complicated.
Please dont think this is sad but this is helping me overcome some of the guilt I carry over that child.
I must admit one thing and that is that I have a daughter who was adopted, I have not seen her for over 20 years.
I would rather know she has had a chance of life than to know she was never born.
As a father of a child in that situation some of you ladies may feel I dont have the same attachment as a mother an I guess you may be right, but that does not feel like it when I look at her photo when she was a baby.
I still hold the view that it is a womans right to choose, however as wbb says perhaps it is to easy I dont know, it is complicated.
Please dont think this is sad but this is helping me overcome some of the guilt I carry over that child.
Thanks all for your well thought out replies, however, the point I am trying to put accross is that I believe in the womans right to choose but when that choice is made on financial grounds rather than any thought for the future of the child thats what I find difficult to hold with.
The state should always be there to support people whether they be male or female at the time of most difficulty in their lives not when they choose to have a child knowing that the state would pick up the cost. To me that is not responsible parenting. So my point was why should society do so.
This would free up more money for the people that require aid and therefore give them more to help them in there period of need
The state should always be there to support people whether they be male or female at the time of most difficulty in their lives not when they choose to have a child knowing that the state would pick up the cost. To me that is not responsible parenting. So my point was why should society do so.
This would free up more money for the people that require aid and therefore give them more to help them in there period of need
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Another topic Denise, one where there is no answer. If you don't help you make the innocent child suffer, if you do help people abuse the system to get preferential treatment / housing.
I have seen this happen with a friend of mine taken in, used, then dropped when he was not earning enough to support his girlfriends drinking and clubbing. She now has a 3 bed house, 3 kids from different fathers and lives with her sister on benefits.
Then again what else can society do? We can't stand by and let the kids suffer, we can't even judge peoples motives for getting pregnant (yes it takes 2 to tango, but men can be duped into unprotected sex easy enough). No answers here, just more questions...
So perhaps its the states right to remove those children and put them up for adoption, then some of the poor couples who cannot have children would get the opportunity.
It is strange that when it was regarded as not the done thing for girls to get pregnant before marriage there was less in the way of illigitamate pregnancy.
Very true accidents do happen but the fact is that there is more availability of contraceptives in its many different forms.
This still brings me back to the fact that abortion on demand should be the right of all females, with the proviso that should they not take this option the state should not be responsible for the family
As a male with a checkered history it is my belief that the woman with her partner has the right to choose.
However, should she choose the right to keep the child she should not expect the state to keep it, it is down to her family to provide financialy or she should offer the child for adoption.
I realise this sounds very victorian but some people feel that society owes them a living.
I do appreciate I will get a lot of stick from the lady members but Sue also agrees with this view along with lots of friends when itt is discussed
However, should she choose the right to keep the child she should not expect the state to keep it, it is down to her family to provide financialy or she should offer the child for adoption.
I realise this sounds very victorian but some people feel that society owes them a living.
I do appreciate I will get a lot of stick from the lady members but Sue also agrees with this view along with lots of friends when itt is discussed
I am afraid this is the type of thing that puts people of using the forum, a perfectly good thread started and then high jacked by others such as Iceman and the like.
The point of the thread is then lost as these people try to score points off each other.
Why can people post things without having to defend themselves.
People get real and understand that not everyone is as perfect at putting there wants in words that are perfect, dont assume they are sexist, racist or what ever ist.
Live and let live.
I have never started a thread as it seems that critisism will always follow.
I dare say I will have expect some recrimination over these comments.
The point of the thread is then lost as these people try to score points off each other.
Why can people post things without having to defend themselves.
People get real and understand that not everyone is as perfect at putting there wants in words that are perfect, dont assume they are sexist, racist or what ever ist.
Live and let live.
I have never started a thread as it seems that critisism will always follow.
I dare say I will have expect some recrimination over these comments.
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