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7 Apr 2005

Quote by JudyTV
Its the spreading of infection in general and HIV in particular that the UK and other countries are fighting to control. As we debate this issue people are coming off aircraft at airports all over the UK as we speak who are infected with HIV and Aids. Those of us who recklessly ignore the government and Medical experts warnings and information regarding safe sex are increasing the chances of their children and their grandchildren of being infected with a number of STDs. People are dieing in their thousands worldwide due to this devastating human infection. We in this country are potentially killing the children of tomorrow by disregarding simple advise.

Quote by rogerthedragon
I'm going to have to disagree with this paragraph I'm afraid Judy - you give the impression that people who don't practise safer sex are putting the lives of the population in general at a greater risk.

In a literal way, I agree with what Judy said about putting your chldren at risk by barebacking. I know this is an extreme example, but have you considered the implications for children born to mothers with HIV?
These kids are as good as born with death sentence, yet had committed no crime. They will probably not reach late their 20's at best? Every year, there are hundreds of babies born in this country alone to mothers with HIV. The situation in African countries is too tragic to fully contemplate.
No offence to you Roger and this isn't aimed at you. But it troubles me that people in other countries die because nobody told them any better/helped them with protection. Yet there are people here who have been told, yet for some reason that still baffles me are willing to risk themself, and find that they arent going to be around for long. I know that African people may not necessarily be your problem or concern, but its something to think about.
Speaking of helping people, rather than bombing Iraqis with artillery, wouldnt money have been better spent on bombing the Africans with condoms and leaflets? Maybe even the odd bag of grain? Something else to think about. rolleyes

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7 Apr 2005

Quote by rogerthedragon
True to a certain extent however ordinary consensual vaginal intercourse has a relatively low transmission rate (between 2% and 4% for HIV) therefore it would be a very long period of time before the disease spread through a group of people.
Roger the Dragon
BTW - not trying to pick at you post just trying to expand on the point I was making .

This is O.k, just some different views. But if you think about the 2-4% and the numbers of people having sex in general (I know the newbies will say that nobody here ever has sex biggrin

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) then that can translate into an awfully large number of people at risk in the U.K.
The reason that HIV hasn't spread more is precisely because of the large number of people who are responsible to be protected. e.g I'll give you the example of immunisation. For each disease, there will be a percentage of the population needing to be immunised (called "herd immunisation") to prevent outbreak. Similarly, there needs to be high enough numbers of people practising safer sex to try and keep the HIV problem from spiralling out of control. This will still mean that HIV will be around, but the numbers will be under some contol. I assure you, that if more people started barebacking, we could see exponential growth in the HIV infection rates. This is a situation where it is better to nip it in the bud, rather than letting it go out of control.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by JudyTV

Just to make it plain and clear, I only ever indulge in safe sex.

Relax Judy, this is a classic example of a wind-up merchant. I have seen dozens of them scattered across various forums. What they do is make posts to wind people up. Then they back track abit and try to twist what some have said to try and support themself. Just as your posts have been used to try and show support for him.
The aim is to get regular posters to disagree by attempting to create two or more groups of different views. Usually though, most people see through this. Unfortunatey them guys who pull these stunts don't realise this and stay sat in front of their PCs thinking they have got us fooled.
Just look at his first post, how does a dick too big for a condom end up with a condom coming off? Bullshit or what?

7 Apr 2005

Everything in life has a risk, the aim is to manage and minimise those risks. Like you said, everyone has a right to choose, and I'm not going to disagree.
But its how you set about doing things. You gave some examples about driving. Driving migh mileage alone won't necessarily lead to fatality. But driving wrecklessly, or while drunk can almost guarantee an incident. So its about your attitude that matters more here.
Those who bareback on a regular basis will realise that all it takes is for one of them in the swinging group to have HIV, within time they will all get it. It would just be a matter of time.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by targaid
The dangers of cross-infection are apparent and since, as I understand it, one of the most at-risk activities for a hetero male is going down

Quote by MrLickingham
Really?? What risk does the man face? I ask this in all naivety, because I've always thought that cunnilingus was about the safest, or least unsafe, form of sex you can have. It's certainly my favourite, hence my crass handle ;-)

Well theres herpes for starters?

7 Apr 2005

The end is nye biggrin

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7 Apr 2005

Quote by secretmaccamslag
I just came back from a pee to edit this, made sure I didn't drop my brain in it! Actually, didn't King Geroge 3rd die from blue pee? A sign of ..er what was it? Mental Illness? Oh dear...am I doing a King George?

No, he had porphyria. One of the symptoms can be passing red urine. It didnt kill him str8 away, made him crazy and blind first. smile

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7 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
I totally agree and I salute you Sir, you talk a lot of sense, if everyone was as considerate as you there wouldn't be any need to worry about catching STDs.

And if everyone was responsible enough to use condoms, serious/life threatening STI's could potentially have been a disease of the past.
Being tested only shows whether you maybe affected or not. It won't prevent you from getting it in the first place. It'll be people like you costin the NHS millions in anti-retroviral treatment, when there are people waiting treatment for diseases that they couldn't have prevented.
Talk about being considerate.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
However, it does not guarantee that one will not catch something, ie, through a split condom, or overspill, so how can one enjoy sex due to the inherent danger of disease.

Quote by veejay
Well you'll enjoy it more than when not using condoms where you'll most likely get something.
I think youre deliberately making stupid posts to wind people up. Its people like you are responsible for giving swingers the image of being wreckless/irresponsible sex freaks. It'll only be a matter of time before you'll get some bad news.

Quote by O. K.
I think you are deliberately making stupid posts to wind me up, its people like you who are reponsible for causing trouble when there isn't any and it is you who are the bad news!!!

Quote by veejay
LOL...
You may not have any condom sense, sorry that should've been common sense. But you sure are funny. (not just in the head either)

Quote by O. K.
GET STUFFED DICK HEAD !!!

I think if anyone is gonna get stuffed, it'll be you- stuffed full of sti's that is.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by rachel-lane
Can you guess which of the following are true and which are false?
2. Alfred Hitchcock didn't have a belly button.
24. Most hospitals make money by selling the umbilicalcords cut from women who give birth. They are used in vein transplant surgery.
Scroll down for the answers.
ALL OF THE ABOVE ARE TRUE!
(Now go back and think about No. 16!) :shock: :cry:

How dd Hitchcocks as a faetus get connected to the placenta? And its illegal to sell body parts in the U.K so 24 cant be true either.

7 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
However, it does not guarantee that one will not catch something, ie, through a split condom, or overspill, so how can one enjoy sex due to the inherent danger of disease.

Quote by veejay
Well you'll enjoy it more than when not using condoms where you'll most likely get something.
I think youre deliberately making stupid posts to wind people up. Its people like you are responsible for giving swingers the image of being wreckless/irresponsible sex freaks. It'll only be a matter of time before you'll get some bad news.

Quote by O. K.
I think you are deliberately making stupid posts to wind me up, its people like you who are reponsible for causing trouble when there isn't any and it is you who are the bad news!!!

LOL...
You may not have any condom sense, sorry that should've been common sense. But you sure are funny. (not just in the head either)
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6 Apr 2005

Quote by O. K.
However, it does not guarantee that one will not catch something, ie, through a split condom, or overspill, so how can one enjoy sex due to the inherent danger of disease.

Well you'll enjoy it more than when not using condoms where you'll most likely get something.
I think youre deliberately making stupid posts to wind people up. Its people like you are responsible for giving swingers the image of being wreckless/irresponsible sex freaks. It'll only be a matter of time before you'll get some bad news.

6 Apr 2005

Quote by Clare_Lincs
Shaven balls feel so much better when they are slapping against your arse while your being fucked on all fours :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Wouldn't that require you to be on your back with the guy on top?
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6 Apr 2005

Thailand, those women are crazy about the European looks. You may end up learning afew things there yourself :shock:

6 Apr 2005

What kind of watersports are you referring to?
Water ski-ing, jet-ski -ing or plain old surfing? biggrin

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6 Apr 2005

OMG....
That is so embarassing. Why didnt you use a made-up name or something?
Was the radio station anything to do with "Talking Sport?, formerly known as "Talking Radio?
And the presenter called James?.

6 Apr 2005

What type of a van is it?
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Sorry, good luck with your search.

5 Apr 2005

I think you might need to get your plug thingy looked at. I had a similar plug and thought it was great. Never had the problem with the plug going back in due to water pressure. Also, there was no chance of the chain snapping (since there isnt one) and the plug going missing.

5 Apr 2005

I knew they couldn't chuck you out. If your married to a British citizen then you get to stay. If they let some people with sham marriages in, then it'd be daft not letting a genuine guy in (though I wouldnt accuse the system of being sensible) biggrin

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5 Apr 2005

Quote by Tania
OK I found some links. I was wrong about the country. It was not Angola but Rwanda. There were about 250,000 women by soldiers about a decade ago. Of those that survived, 70% were infected with HIV. Do some simple multiplication... infected women + non infected men, infected women > infected babies. Don't think the Pope had anything to do with this.

is a serious war-crime. On other (non-swinging) forums I spend alot of time speaking against such misdeeds so I wouldn't want you to get the impression I take lightly. There is a wonderful book called "Against Our Will: Men, Women and " Its by Susan Brownmiller and documents in war over the last century and all across the globe. Its a truly horrific book and not for anyone who gets upset. I was left quite distraught after reading afew chapters.
However war crimes in Rwanda alone have not contributed to the spread of HIV in Botswana. Rwanda is in the North/Central Africa while Botswana is in the South/Eastern Africa. Now Botswana is the country with the highest HIV rate in the world (37%).
Like I said, is a disgusting act and rapists caught (with positive forensics/testimonials) should be burnt alive in my opinion, ( just my opinion). But the of women in Rwanda should not be used as an excuse for the spread of HIV.
I am not a Catholic, or religious, but feel its my duty to highlight issues where people suffer needlessly. Female circumcision is another cultural practice amongst certain African tribes that I despise (but thats another story).
I'm not having a go at you, but when innocent people suffer, it makes me mad.

5 Apr 2005

Quote by JudyTV
Im sure you've been given plenty of good advice already.
But have you considered switching from I.E to Firefox by Mozilla? Its miles better than I.E and is free from Firefox

You may well be right and I have heard this before but have still yet to be convinced so:- Convince me and explain why are we are not all on Firefox then. I hardly think a loss of a jpg file format is worth dumping his I.E. Sledgehammer and nuts comes to mind here veejay.
I hear the same type of thing from people with macs but most of us are still using Industry standard PCs apart from people who publish newspapers etc. I remember when I had a USB conflict issue some one sugested dumping my three year old pentium 4 PC and getting a mac to cure it .....yea right.
Del and Rodney will probably tell us that Three wheels are better than four. However, I have my doubts about that too. :P wink

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Judy
Having not used a Mac for over 12 yrs ago, I can't really comment on them. But I wouldn't change my PC to a Mac either for bus issues. The thing about Firefox is not just the numerous extensions or different themes, but also its a better browser. E.g one thing is the multiple tab browsing, where you can view several pages using the same frame, and swap between them (as opposed to opening a new window and swapping between them).
Also its more secure and blocks pop-ups more effectively. With I.E, my browser used to get hi-jacked every now and then, but this has never happened with Firefox. Try it for a while. I only started using Firefox for its pop-up blocking/security, but now I would never go back to I.E if I can help it. it just feels so much better using it now.
VJ
(ps, I wouldnt believe anything that Del and Rodney say either biggrin

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5 Apr 2005

Quote by Tania
HungryP
When one says 'condoms cause AIDS' one can mean that the availability of easy contraception causes people to fornicate uncontrollably therefore increasing their exposure to danger and sometimes condoms do break... so what if that one time you were happening to be doing it with an infected person?
When a nun tells her choir master who has is HIV + not to use condoms, perhaps what she is saying is that it is better to abstain at all lest he runs into an accident and infects his wife.

With all due respect Tania, I think you missed the point. The main reason that HIV has spread spread so rapidly in African countries is because of unprotected sex. If people were using condoms more, then the spread of HIV would have been slower. Maybe there would have been the odd breakage, but if there were fewer HIV infections in the first place, the chance of getting HIV would have been next to zero.
If the nun was trying to tell the choir master to abstain, wouldn't it be better to say exactly that, rather than "dont use condoms".
Sorry if I sound harsh, but HIV is still a major killer and in countries like Botswana (Catholic country) the HIV rate is about 37%. That is more than 1 in 3 people you will meet in the street.
So people who go around spouting crap which inevitably leads to the premature death of people, especially children I can't respect. Not using condoms has cost countless lives of real people. Maybe tthe pope did do some good things (I don't know), but that doesn't make up for the death of millions.
Simple as.

5 Apr 2005

Im sure you've been given plenty of good advice already.
But have you considered switching from I.E to Firefox by Mozilla? Its miles better than I.E and is free from

5 Apr 2005

Is this a fictional story?
Sounds like its john who had the problem, nothing to do with women getting older. Not suprised he had something sharp shoved up his backside.......... suprised it didn't happen earlier.

5 Apr 2005

Quote by Fun_Couple1981
Hi
We are a new couple in West Yorkshire. As very new on here dont expect an invite, tho would be nice. Was just looking at the list on here - so is it mainly guys who attend these Munch's or do couples go too ?

Hi. Munches are social meets and open to m, f, cpls, cds, tvs, ts's, str8, gay, bi...
Basically everyone.

4 Apr 2005

Quote by Norfolk_couple
Drago welcome to swinging. If you can't take knock backs and let downs then the doors that way :arrow: :arrow:
Swinging is not as simple as you think. Most members on this site are looking to become friends via the forum and munches before swinging. There is unfortunately alot of people who pretend to be swingers, but for one reason or another, are either pics collectors, uncertain and bottle it at the last minute or just plain old time wasters who get their kicks from the anticpation and build up.
Either way my advice if you are genuine is to hang about in the forums and chat to the regulars, get yourself along to some munches and soon you will start to feel part of this website and enjoy what it has to offer.
Good luck

That was very nicely put I reckon. I think you should listen to this drago and realise that none of the regulars go looking to pick on newbies unless they.................. like you have.
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4 Apr 2005

Quote by babe1
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smack my bottom :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom:
yr on the list now
Hugs Babe1

I might just do that, hee hee hee
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4 Apr 2005

Quote by andy_notts1974
i want to be able to fuck a women fast, hard, deep and to make her realy cum loads, can you get strap ons for men to wear to be able to do it?

Yes, it's called Viagra biggrin

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4 Apr 2005

Quote by bluexxx
What's your point?

I'm not sure, but I think he's upset after coming across some time-wasters/pic-collectors?
Maybe drago could've expressed yourself abit better? It is annoying to have your time-wasted, but there are genuine people here too. So chill man, your new here and will realise that there are plenty of time-wasters about (often single males too). And you'll probably come across more aswell.
Now theres something for you to look forward to biggrin

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4 Apr 2005

Quote by Naughty Wigan Couple
No blushing bar men this time!
Very sorry but the list is now full, but I will put you down on the reserves and if we get a cancellation I will let you know!

I know the list is full, but could I go on the reserve list please?
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