I've just watched the news and I'm gutted to hear about a 92 year old man who has been beaten up in his own home.
About the attackers...don't give me:
1) They've had a bad childhood
2) They're misunderstood
3) They're crying out for help
They're scum.
At what point do we stop making excuses for people like this and change the way punishment is handed out?
Ok, so chopping off their head is a bit extreme, but what about some old fashioned punishment? if they hurt someone, chop off their hands, they'll not do it again that's for sure.
Yes I'm upset. :cry:
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Crime and punishment
According to the news the police think three 20ish lads beat up the 92 year old disabled ex-doctor.
The Royal Marines have an excercise called "Milling" basically you have to go at your opponent for 1 minute. Candidates are scored on their determination, while blocking and dodging result in points deducted. Candidates now wear head protection, and boxing gloves.
If these lads think three to one is fair odds, why not let three Royal Marines at each of them for three minutes each? The head protection and boxing gloves could be put aside for this.
John & Shel
The Royal Marines have an excercise called "Milling" basically you have to go at your opponent for 1 minute. Candidates are scored on their determination, while blocking and dodging result in points deducted. Candidates now wear head protection, and boxing gloves.
If these lads think three to one is fair odds, why not let three Royal Marines at each of them for three minutes each? The head protection and boxing gloves could be put aside for this.
John & Shel
Sex God
That's despicable. If it's true they should have "I am a coward. I beat up an old man" tattoed on their foreheads.
Just information for whoever they're talking to for the rest of thier lives.
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Just information for whoever they're talking to for the rest of thier lives.
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Quote by GnV
Am sure you dont want my opinions Mar.
Bring back hanging?
A great saying GNV " do unto others what they would do unto you ".
Or....... give them to the families of this guy for half an hour in a nice closed room. But we all know that they will get 200 hours community service, and a pat on the back when finished. Some might even spout that they had a bad life as kids, and the real reason for their behaviour is that they were not breast fed at birth! Awwwww little loves.
Bang em up for ten years, that should do the trick eh?
Sex God
Quote by jaymar
I do understand that people won't want to comment much on this thread because of the way threads have gone lately, but thanks to those who have.
It bothers me not....
The bastards want stringing up by their bollocks
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That's more like you Kent
I posted last night in a very emotional state, you should've seen the picture of this poor man on the TV, horrible.
I do understand that people won't want to comment much on this thread because of the way threads have gone lately, but thanks to those who have.
To be fair Mar if I would have done a thread like this I would have been ranted at and called " right wing ".
But boy am I glad you have, as this kind of thing will never go away if people are too shit scared to talk about it.Right where is me newspaper today?
Quote by Steve
I do understand that people won't want to comment much on this thread because of the way threads have gone lately, but thanks to those who have.
It bothers me not....
The bastards want stringing up by their bollocks :evil:
A bit extreme Steve. :shock:
Not a very charitable thing to say m8. Sex God
Quote by kentswingers777
A bit extreme Steve. :shock:
Its no more than the guttersnipes deserve....
Quote by kentswingers777
That's more like you Kent
I posted last night in a very emotional state, you should've seen the picture of this poor man on the TV, horrible.
I do understand that people won't want to comment much on this thread because of the way threads have gone lately, but thanks to those who have.
To be fair Mar if I would have done a thread like this I would have been ranted at and called " right wing ".
But boy am I glad you have, as this kind of thing will never go away if people are too shit scared to talk about it.Right where is me newspaper today?
On this occasion though I don't want to hear politics, I want to see justice for the poor man, and it's not just that poor old man actually, it's justice for the likes of all victims and especially of stabbing (which is increasingly on the up)
it's getting out of hand, it's absolute madness, when will it stop?
So politicssmcholitics, Steve's right, bollocks!
Quote by Theladyisaminx
For people like this I say bring back flogging.
Strip them of their human rights, people like this deserve no rights in my opinion.
If they are 20+ that to me is old enough to take this form of punishment.
Oh I love a good knee-jerk reaction. Espicially about capital and coperal punishment.
Flogging - Yer that'll work ......not.
A deterant only works if the shitbags think they are going to get caught - they don't. If a deterant worked than countrys that had murder as a capital offence would not have murders. Of course no-one gets murdered in Texas.
Supposing the wrong people get punished? A miscarriage of justice. I expect you will all be prepared to personally go round and say sorry. As if that would make a difference to the life times of scarring.
Yes, the state flogging people is clearly in no similar to 3 men beating up 1 man. No heavens forbid that a parrellel be drawn. The state picking on someone.
Rant over. Pick over the bones
reactionaries. You know keeno my feelings and I do not agree. I can fully understand where you are coming from but......until there is a punishment that fits the crime and these people become scared of getting caught, will this kind of thing not happen.
At the moment these ferel thugs have no fear and no respect. A 92 year old man, imagine that being your Father or Grandfather. I wonder if your views would be the same when they are given a slap on the wrist.
My opinion though.
At the moment these ferel thugs have no fear and no respect. A 92 year old man, imagine that being your Father or Grandfather. I wonder if your views would be the same when they are given a slap on the wrist.
My opinion though.
Sex God
So we should just tell the poor old guy that got beaten up that we're not going to punish the poor misguided youths that did this if they are caught as its the fault of society for not giving them a playground when they were younger 
That should do the trick yes....
That should do the trick yes....
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So we should just tell the poor old guy that got beaten up that we're not going to punish the poor misguided youths that did this if they are caught as its the fault of society for not giving them a playground when they were younger
That should do the trick yes....
Of course that will work, and they will never offend again.....will they? :shock:
Quote by Steve
So we should just tell the poor old guy that got beaten up that we're not going to punish the poor misguided youths that did this if they are caught as its the fault of society for not giving them a playground when they were younger
That should do the trick yes....
Yup, that's about it Steve..
The Liberals will all be for getting the likkle gobshites in to the same room as the victim so they can "unburden" themselves so they will become better people.
Sex God
What amazes me is why we always seem to compare ourselves with other nations...
Lets just do what we feel is right/what we want and judge the results by what happens here not what happens elsewhere....
So the death penalty doesnt work elsewhere......So what....
Its high time we got tough on crime......And not just tough in an election spin kinda way...
In edit..
Rant over....
Slate me if you want....
I'm done with this thread....
Lets just do what we feel is right/what we want and judge the results by what happens here not what happens elsewhere....
So the death penalty doesnt work elsewhere......So what....
Its high time we got tough on crime......And not just tough in an election spin kinda way...
In edit..
Rant over....
Slate me if you want....
I'm done with this thread....
Quote by keeno
For people like this I say bring back flogging.
Strip them of their human rights, people like this deserve no rights in my opinion.
If they are 20+ that to me is old enough to take this form of punishment.
Oh I love a good knee-jerk reaction. Espicially about capital and coperal punishment.
Flogging - Yer that'll work ......not.
A deterant only works if the shitbags think they are going to get caught - they don't. If a deterant worked than countrys that had murder as a capital offence would not have murders. Of course no-one gets murdered in Texas.
Supposing the wrong people get punished? A miscarriage of justice. I expect you will all be prepared to personally go round and say sorry. As if that would make a difference to the life times of scarring.
Yes, the state flogging people is clearly in no similar to 3 men beating up 1 man. No heavens forbid that a parrellel be drawn. The state picking on someone.
Rant over. Pick over the bones
reactionaries. Kenno
How would you deal with them if they were caught?
I believe what they did to that man was just as barbaric as flogging.
If you look back on stats of how many have been wrongly accused to the amount of criminals that have rightly accused I am sure you will see the figures for yourself.
I am not saying hang them.
I am saying give them a piece of their own medicine.
I think you will see from my threads I don’t condone violence of any nature.
But when I see acts of this nature on innocent and vulnerable people in our society I see no other option.
When you hear your granddad was thrown to the floor while a gang mugged him and everyone on a bus like I have. It beggars belief on how low the likes of these scum bags will go.
Tough on crime?
More people are in prison in Britain than anywhere else in Europe.
Coperal punishment and capital punishment do not work here, or anywhere else. We still had violent crime when we hung people.
I feel this thread just shows the general lack of moral intelligence and imagination of the British public.
Just a knee jerk reaction and jumping on a band wagon.
If it was my Grandad, yes I would different of course but it wasn't. Luckily reason and logic still rule my head.
More people are in prison in Britain than anywhere else in Europe.
Coperal punishment and capital punishment do not work here, or anywhere else. We still had violent crime when we hung people.
I feel this thread just shows the general lack of moral intelligence and imagination of the British public.
Just a knee jerk reaction and jumping on a band wagon.
If it was my Grandad, yes I would different of course but it wasn't. Luckily reason and logic still rule my head.
Quote by keeno
Tough on crime?
More people are in prison in Britain than anywhere else in Europe.
Coperal punishment and capital punishment do not work here, or anywhere else. We still had violent crime when we hung people.
I feel this thread just shows the general lack of moral intelligence and imagination of the British public.
Just a knee jerk reaction and jumping on a band wagon.
If it was my Grandad, yes I would different of course but it wasn't. Luckily reason and logic still rule my head.
Sorry but I treat all innocent people the same not not just because of what happened to my grandad.
I see all children and old people as vulnerable and innocent people in our society and as such be protected at all costs. Crimes against them are the lowest form of crime in my honest opinion.
You havent answer how would you treat 20+ year olds that acted in this manner?
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What about their human rights though? :shock: :shock:
Are you winding us up or is this tongue in cheek humour?
All I will say is 'what about the rights of the elderly gentleman, asleep in his bed, being woken up, beaten up, all for a little bit cash' he was defenceless in his bed and lay there until his carers came the next day, meanwhile his house was ransacked.
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What about their human rights though? :shock: :shock:
Are you winding us up or is this tongue in cheek humour?All I will say is 'what about the rights of the elderly gentleman, asleep in his bed, being woken up, beaten up, all for a little bit cash' he was defenceless in his bed and lay there until his carers came the next day, meanwhile his house was ransacked.
Mar said with tongue not only in cheek but up arse too.
The only human rights these scum bags deserve is bread and water for the whole of their sentence. Did you really think I meant that Mar? Have you learnt nothing from me?
