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Hi Folks,
without trying to upset anyone - is there a method via the forums to name and shame the guys/gals who go to great lengths to arrange meets and then not show up.
If a list of time wasters could be posted somewhere it could save a lot of wasted trips.
I'm talking in particular about the guys who have sex craved partners(all imaginary!). I'm sure we have all been had on this game at some time. Us single, genuine guys, get hit far too often by this game.
Andy
Its been brought up many a time before and shot down in flames I'm afraid..
I know of another site that as a validation service on it where people who've met each other have posted to say that this person is genuine etc
I myself think it would be a good thing,others wouldn't
You can generally see who the genuine people are on her by checking the forums and visiting the chatrooms.. wink
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Hi Folks,
without trying to upset anyone - is there a method via the forums to name and shame the guys/gals who go to great lengths to arrange meets and then not show up.
If a list of time wasters could be posted somewhere it could save a lot of wasted trips.
I'm talking in particular about the guys who have sex craved partners(all imaginary!). I'm sure we have all been had on this game at some time. Us single, genuine guys, get hit far too often by this game.
Andy

never going to happen.... because it is open to too much abuse............
just happens to us all....
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/154672.html
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/169031.html
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/99972.html
as a sngle mum and a single fem reliant on a dodgy car i find it difficult to somtimes make all the meets i arrange but i at least try to let people know i cannt make it. even so i can be seen as a timewaster for just not wanting or able to meet people so would also be labled as a timwaster is that fair!!!!!!!!!!!
you not chatting to the right people then
Iagree..we have met lots of genuine people..try going to the socials and munches!!
Sara n Graham
We are a couple who have had the same trouble with "horny" single guys! Most of them play on line while the wife is at Tesco. Arrange a meet and they run a mile! Trying to set up a meet at the moment. Guys galore want to attend, when you start to discuss details they suddenly realise that they didn't actually mean that day, or they can only play at if there's an "r" in the month, their car is playing up etc. etc.
Put in perspective.....have booked a hotel for a gangbang. Over 100 replies.....out of all those only 4 guys have agreed to attend which probably means NONE will show up. Basically 90% on these sites simply want to fantasise!
Point of order! Within seconds of our post we had a "genuine" guy mail us desperate to attend after seeing The post we made. Thing is, he could not make the time, only during the day..............
This shouldnt of been posted in this forum.... It should be in the Cafe!!!
And this topic has been tried a million times b4... so don't be suprised if it gets locked!!!
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This shouldnt of been posted in this forum.... It should be in the Cafe!!!
And this topic has been tried a million times b4... so don't be suprised if it gets locked!!!

i love it when you are so dominant!!!!!!!
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :thrilled:
RWL
xx
You dont name and shame when you go out in the big bad world and things dont work out so why in here? In both real and on line world there are genuine people and prats and that part of the interest of life is trying to work out who is who biggrin
I know that its a pain but meeting people always was
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Point of order! Within seconds of our post we had a "genuine" guy mail us desperate to attend after seeing The post we made. Thing is, he could not make the time, only during the day..............

Point of order !!!!!!!!
We know of plenty of genuine single guys who will turn up at last minute arranged meets and turn up to pre arranged meets so perhaps its just you dunno
Yeah but the trouble is the sheer number of pratts on this site! Now up to over 200 replies for our meet........7 appear halfway genuine and maybe 2 will show up! However you mix it, that works out to 1% that are truly genuine.
That, in our book, is ludicrous!
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Yeah but the trouble is the sheer number of pratts on this site! Now up to over 200 replies for our meet........7 appear halfway genuine and maybe 2 will show up! However you mix it, that works out to 1% that are truly genuine.
That, in our book, is ludicrous!

All I can do is comment on our experiences and we have a good rate of sucsess.
hiya
people should keep a blk book of names like i do i had 8 single guys waste my time on weds so all of them have gone in it smile
shame we can not name and shame but thats life
thanks jo x
Mallock.....don't really appreciate the "perhaps it's just you crack". We advertise like anyone else.....loads of replies......we respond and they nearly all cry off one or two agree to show up, then mostly don't. This happens over and over.
Your guys that you "know" means a circle of established friends which from our perception is not quite what photo ads or the forums are about. After all, you can just have a quick phone 'round to arrange things.
We are simply trying to make the point that the majority (not all) of people on this site are effectivly "wannabe's".
This below is a direct paste of a reply we got from a guy who contacted us regarding our Gatwick hotel meeting:-
hi u look gorgeous,sorry i cant travel,but id love to meet u sometime 4 daytime fun,at my place,take care xxxxx
This bloke actually asked to come to the hotel then sent this reply when the details were mailed to him!
You see our point?
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Mallock.....don't really appreciate the "perhaps it's just you crack".

And I'm sure all the genuine single guys here dont appreciate your comments either but thats life eh ??
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Your guys that you "know" means a circle of established friends which from our perception is not quite what photo ads or the forums are about. After all, you can just have a quick phone 'round to arrange things.

We never meet the same guy twice so the circle of established friends theory is straight out of the window there I'm afraid..
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We are simply trying to make the point that the majority (not all) of people on this site are effectivly "wannabe's".

Perhaps a small percentage are but to say the majority when there is such a vast amount of members simply doesnt compute..
Quote by funny bucker
Hi Folks,
without trying to upset anyone - is there a method via the forums to name and shame the guys/gals who go to great lengths to arrange meets and then not show up.
If a list of time wasters could be posted somewhere it could save a lot of wasted trips.
Andy

The anonymity afforded by the internet causes these type of problems on a wide variety of sites, not just swinging sites.
People who casually amuse themselves by exploiting other people's honesty and genuineness are all around.
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Yeah but the trouble is the sheer number of pratts on this site! Now up to over 200 replies for our meet........7 appear halfway genuine and maybe 2 will show up! However you mix it, that works out to 1% that are truly genuine.
That, in our book, is ludicrous!

but is that just the single guys???????
I Know of single men/women that have been let down by couples
I know of couples that have been let down by single women
I know of Couples who have been let down by single guys...
so Basically it happens to everyone.....
there is a difference between those who save they are going to show, then disappear of the face of the earth... and those who genuinely can't get there but have rung ahead to let you ......
the 2nd lot maybe considered a "time waster" to some.... but they wouldn't be to me... so where do you draw that line......
so just imagine these situations..... lets say they have rung you to say they cannot make it (manners cost nothing)
for example..... if that persons car breaks down (for example sara 2006) are they a timewaster or not???
for example.... new couple, 1st meet, and they have 2nd thoughts and decide they are not ready.... timewaster or not????
for example..... meet with a person, but then for one reason or another you don't click and decide not to play.... timewaster or not? in fact if you made that decision not to play, would you like to be considered the timewaster..... I doubt it!
for example.... I rely on the trains, I have had trains run late or cancelled on me, and not been able to make it..... would I be considered a timewaster????
where effectively do you draw that line.... because my line may be different to yours...
I was trying to find something that Naughty Wigan Couple wrote about it... and i can't bloody find it..
for me it summed it up brilliantly....
me personally.. I don't really use to ads so I couldn't comment on that.... I use the forums, where if I am interested in a person, I can read a profiles, I can read what they have written in the past... and get a feel for them...and I can the Chatrooms... where again I can get a sense of the person/people I am chatting to.. I can ask them lots of questions, they can ask me lots of questions.........
I go to a lot of Socials/Munches.. not everyones cup of tea because some don't want to socialise with the people they play with... (and that is there right to do, nothing wrong with that)... but it works brilliantly for me beacuse I can be myself in talk to people in a non-pressure sex enviroment, if after that we want to play then that is cool... if not then that is another few friends I have made
I can show that I am a genuine person without having to jump thru a million hoops saying that I am....
I am sorry that you have had a hard time on here..... in the 3 years i have been here I would like to think That I have crossed the paths or hundreds, if not thousands of genuine swingers.....
They are out there.........
sean xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Agreed, it is not just the single guys. We tend to get attention from mostly single men, just look at the profile photos to see why......(universal titty fixation!). The point is when we do post an ad OR post on a forum, nearly 99% of the replies we get have no intention of meeting with us (or probably anyone else) and so are just timewasters.
If you look at the membership figures for the site there are 740000 members meaning that from our point of view 7400 are probably quite genuine. That is a lot of people but in proportion it is pathetic. No doubt all the people on this thread are quite genuine....the wasters are hardly going to bother to look on this forum are they......no tittilation!
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Agreed, it is not just the single guys. We tend to get attention from mostly single men, just look at the profile photos to see why......(universal titty fixation!). The point is when we do post an ad OR post on a forum, nearly 99% of the replies we get have no intention of meeting with us (or probably anyone else) and so are just timewasters.
If you look at the membership figures for the site there are 740000 members meaning that from our point of view 7400 are probably quite genuine.
That is a lot of people but in proportion it is pathetic. No doubt all the people on this thread are quite genuine....the wasters are hardly going to bother to look on this forum are they......no tittilation!

Key words in you last post highlighted.... ;-)
As is your reply of course......or am I mistaken?
One thing I can say Mallock......you are on here as a couple....but your profile is blank! Your blog is set up just as a male and you don't advertise on the site. Do you just sit on the forum to snipe at women who dare voice an opinion because if that is the case, you are rather proving my point.....Now if you would like to stop making it personal it would be appreciated.
I think most people have been let down at some point and it does get frustrating when you start to arrange things and then they start saying "oh I thought you meant friday" when your ad clearly says Saturday,,, and "oh I can only do during the day" when you clearly state it was a night meet ,
like I say it is frustrating but I have come to expect and accept it as part of putting a photo ad on, and this is from couples and singles.
dont let it put you off though cos there are some genuine people on here
xxx
Naming and Shaming - look at this scenario ...
There is a guy/couple/single female that I really fancy meeting up with.
I send them a pm and pic and they send me a note back saying sorry not interested, or their pm box is that full of messages, they just dont get round to replying (alot of single females on here are literally inundated with messages).
I feel a bit pee'd off with this and try again to get in touch.
I still get a knock back, or no reply.
I'm even more pee'd off, so I decide to get my own back on them. If they wont meet me, then I will make sure that no one else wants to meet them.
I give some feedback, I say he/she/they are timewasters, didnt show up, or even worse I say something really nasty about them.
Who is telling the truth?
It is my word against theirs. Who can prove that they are or aren't time wasters? It doesnt matter I was lying, I have put the feedback on, and others will see it and not arrange to meet this person just because I have slagged them off.

In my opinion, this site seems to work in 2 ways, and both have their own problems.
Some people go for the 'lets get to know you' method. They chat on the forums or the chat room, they send messages, possibly telephone each other, meet at a social or munch and when they feel comfortable, they arrange the swinging meet. These people are less likely (notice I only say LESS likely) to have someone let them down but it still can happen.
Others go for the annonymity (Spelling) and prefer not to know the persons background/personal details, and I really can see the appeal of this. They place an advert or post, they get hundreds of replies and pick the ones that appeal to them. IN MY OPINION, these are the ones who are more than likely to be 'targeted' by the ones who are on here for the fantasy of swinging. They have no intention of turning up, they just dream about what swinging could be like and get their kick from the arrangement but not the actual event. Of course, not all the people who prefer the annonymity of swinging are timewasters, but it is much easier to fool someone into believing your genuine if you dont have to tell anyone anything about you.
There are no guarantees in swinging, same as there are no guaratees in real life. Try selling something in the local papers and then see just how many phone up with no intentions of actually buying the item.
Naming and shaming is too much open to abuse. People can easily abuse any system that is in place and it leaves too much open to interpretation.
I really do feel for anyone who has been messed around and I remember once speaking to a really nice guy on here and at 7pm one evening, we suggested we drive over to his home, 170 miles away. He agreed, but even till the moment we knocked on his door and told him to stick the kettle on, I really dont think this person thought for one moment that we would actually turn up. However, if we had broken down or got lost on the way to this meet, would that have made us timeswasters and we would have ended up with bad feedback?
We all live and learn and pick ourselves up after any knock back or let down. Its life and sorry if that sounds harsh, but at least next time, we are that little more careful who we arrange to meet. I feel very strongly about not having any feedback of any kind on here, and can say, hand on heart, if it ever happened, I for one would never us the site again.
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One thing I can say Mallock......you are on here as a couple....but your profile is blank! Your blog is set up just as a male and you don't advertise on the site. Do you just sit on the forum to snipe at women who dare voice an opinion because if that is the case, you are rather proving my point.....Now if you would like to stop making it personal it would be appreciated.

I am a couple and a lot of people can vouch for that fact....
My blog is a set of pics taken on a bolloon flight my wife bought me for my birthday....
I choose to have a blank profile as I prefer to chat to people and get to know them rather than have them contact me because they believe they fir a set of criteria laid down in text...
When reading posts on the forum it is often difficult to see who is typing (male/female) so how can I be sitting here waiting to snipe at women ??
And as for getting personal.....
I dont know you so I fail to see how it could possibly be personal.....
Did you read our methods when you received the reply to the pm you sent me ??
Eh?
What are you on about........
You have attacked my opinion since I offered it whilst expounding your own as "gospel". Your entire attitude is agressive and I think it highly amusing that you can back up being a couple but still use "I" not "we".
It is usual in this country to allow others their opinion without launching into "attack" mode.
You are correct when you say I don't know you.....I would not want to and THAT is my opinion no matter what you may think!
Why not go and argue with someone else now 'cause I am done all on account of you....so I guess you win.
I would hope that the moderator on this forum would take some notice.
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Eh?
What are you on about........
You have attacked my opinion since I offered it whilst expounding your own as "gospel". Your entire attitude is agressive and I think it highly amusing that you can back up being a couple but still use "I" not "we".
It is usual in this country to allow others their opinion without launching into "attack" mode.
You are correct when you say I don't know you.....I would not want to and THAT is my opinion no matter what you may think!
Why not go and argue with someone else now 'cause I am done all on account of you....so I guess you win.
I would hope that the moderator on this forum would take some notice.

I use the term "I" because my wife has her own account
See profile Shireen for "tittilation"
I see no reason for a moderator such as the one who has posted in this thread to take any action as nothing that has been said breaches the AUP dunno
I have attacked the notion that most single guys on here are wasters and unfortunately that just happens to be your opinion as well...
My only hope is that a lot of single guys will read this thread and see exactly who thinks what about them....
Its high time the single guy bashing was stopped in this place as its get tiresome rolleyes
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One thing I can say Mallock......you are on here as a couple....but your profile is blank! Your blog is set up just as a male and you don't advertise on the site. Do you just sit on the forum to snipe at women who dare voice an opinion because if that is the case, you are rather proving my point.....Now if you would like to stop making it personal it would be appreciated.

How his profile/blog is set up is none of your business, nor his lack of an advert. He's expressed an opinion, which he is just as entitled to do as you are. I can't see where he's made it personal.