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As petrol is increasing it seems by the day, and now stands at over £5 a gallon, what do others think of that and how do we combat the weekly rises?
The Government blames it on crude oil prices which nearly hit $120 a barrel. But is it not a fact also that we pay some of the highest rates of fuel duty in the Western world? Am not too sure what that is but have heard 65p in every pound is taken by the Government?
The car whatever the greenies might say is a lifeline to many. It is not a luxury nowadays, as it may have been years ago. But people are now having to look at their car and the journeys they make. Is that a good or a bad thing? I feel the motorist has been for years the first one Governments take from, and the last to give anything back too. For all the taxes we pay in petrol and road tax, which is also a tax con, should we as motorists not get more back than we do? :shock:
The new road tax fees are a disgrace and unless you own a car that runs on cow shit, you will be worse off. I know somebody who has BMW x5, which the emmissions are 0% coming out of the exhaust, but still has to pay a fortune for his road tax.
Is fuel protests the answer to force an about turn on the Governments thinking on tax on fuel? Most people must be angry about the fule prices, so lets hear some strong views on both sides of the arguement. lol
fuel protests...i remember them i was in spain when they kicked off in france last time..couldnt get home and was told to pop my car on a ferry at santander by my holiday insurance...at my cost...anyway got back to blighyt a feww days later when the french strike ended and fell straight into the british protest, Dover and a full tank in the 4wd then slipstream a fuel truck up the m40 waiting for him to stop at the services and fill them up..cost me a weeks work three extra days stuck in france and all for what....erm nothing because its made no difference what so ever , prices continued to soar, if they had managed to save the 10p a gallon or whatever it was they were so upset about i think i would just about have got the money back i lost in earnings etc by now..
if you want to protest do it in a way that doesnt cost some of us a small fortune please.
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fuel protests...i remember them i was in spain when they kicked off in france last time..couldnt get home and was told to pop my car on a ferry at santander by my holiday insurance...at my cost...anyway got back to blighyt a feww days later when the french strike ended and fell straight into the british protest, Dover and a full tank in the 4wd then slipstream a fuel truck up the m40 waiting for him to stop at the services and fill them up..cost me a weeks work three extra days stuck in france and all for what....erm nothing because its made no difference what so ever , prices continued to soar, if they had managed to save the 10p a gallon or whatever it was they were so upset about i think i would just about have got the money back i lost in earnings etc by now..
if you want to protest do it in a way that doesnt cost some of us a small fortune please.

I am not saying protests are the answer but....is petrol at £5 costing all of us a small fortune now everyday? When i got my car 3 years ago it cost £37 to fill it up, not it costs £55, an increase of £18 a tank in 3 years. Now that is costing me a small fortune. Also remember that when the last fuel protests happened it was because it hit 80p a litre, now it is a litre? A big rise.
Use your car less.
Buy the kids push bikes.
Move closer to work.
Get the smallest car u can get away with.
Just some ideas.
I filled up yesterday, a litre, cost me £85.
I use my van as little as possible, I work from home, I don't have any kids. I can't afford to buy a newer, more economical vehicle. I live in a rural area where fuel is more expensive anyway. I don't know what the solution is but I don't think protesting is the way forward, it just encourages panic buying which leads to shortages which leads to higher prices. Long term, a sustainable bio alternative which doesn't affect food production worldwide. A pipe dream maybe.
H.x
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fuel protests...i remember them i was in spain when they kicked off in france last time..couldnt get home and was told to pop my car on a ferry at santander by my holiday insurance...at my cost...anyway got back to blighyt a feww days later when the french strike ended and fell straight into the british protest, Dover and a full tank in the 4wd then slipstream a fuel truck up the m40 waiting for him to stop at the services and fill them up..cost me a weeks work three extra days stuck in france and all for what....erm nothing because its made no difference what so ever , prices continued to soar, if they had managed to save the 10p a gallon or whatever it was they were so upset about i think i would just about have got the money back i lost in earnings etc by now..
if you want to protest do it in a way that doesnt cost some of us a small fortune please.

I am not saying protests are the answer but....is petrol at £5 costing all of us a small fortune now everyday? When i got my car 3 years ago it cost £37 to fill it up, not it costs £55, an increase of £18 a tank in 3 years. Now that is costing me a small fortune. Also remember that when the last fuel protests happened it was because it hit 80p a litre, now it is a litre? A big rise.
kind of reinforces my point doesnt it...protests didnt make a jot of difference,
I know the tax on petrol is severe and that only a small part goes to the petrol company but....today shell announced profits of 50 squillion or some such absurb figure and so I begrudge payin even more now....lets have some of those profits passed back to the poor sods like us who have to pay out....dont get me on my soap box on the tax subject....theres just not enough room on the site for my complaints on that smile....
Quote by benrums0n
Use your car less.
Buy the kids push bikes.
Move closer to work.
Get the smallest car u can get away with.
Just some ideas.

All ideas yes :thumbup:
Any more ideas??......Practical ones ???
It's only going to get worse- we're heading for a period of civil unrest that will rival the intensity of the Poll Tax riots of the last century, and it will be a year filled with strikes and industrial action. The labLiar gubmint are expecting it, and are planning for it-the Emergency/Security Services are gearing up their tactical rsponse, and have already ran exercises to train for it.
The cost of living has risen, too sharply, too quickly, and the present gubmint have got the skids under them.
For most people, the options of using the car less/ getting a smaller car/ moving closer to work just aren't financially viable- everybody we know, and I mean everybody, is starting to feel the pinch. Friends who are self employed in the building and construction trades tell me that their order books are getting thinner and thinner. Once houses start to get repossesed and jobs start to go, then anarchists will get willing recruits to their cause, and as the Olympic Torch debacle proved, it doesn't take much of a protest for it to turn nasty. Can you imagine a march on the scale of the poll tax converging on London in the present climate? Give it a few months, and it will be even worse.
Petrol hitting 5 quid a gallon is a huge psychological barrier to cross- and on the day it does, a couple of petrochemical companies announce a rise in profits, just adds fuel (no pun intended) to the fire.
Strangely, the thing that might calm people down would be a change of government- not because any other party might make a better job of it, but just because labLiar are seen to be a busted flush, who are perceived to be corrupt, inept and have lost control. The electorate would give a new goverment time to get to grips with things, and might not be so millitant!
R
Quote by Steve
Use your car less.
Buy the kids push bikes.
Move closer to work.
Get the smallest car u can get away with.
Just some ideas.

All ideas yes :thumbup:
Any more ideas??......Practical ones ???quote]
Exactly what I thought.
The kids have push bikes
Wish I could move closer to work,you cannot pick and choose where you work. :shock:
Yes I will of course buy a mini but why the fuc* should I have too? Its not just big cars that suffer even if you own a 1400cc car you get clobbered.
Of course if I did not work, then I would not need a car, and then would join me kids on their push bikes. lol
Quote by kentswingers777
The new road tax fees are a disgrace and unless you own a car that runs on cow shit, you will be worse off. I know somebody who has BMW x5, which the emmissions are 0% coming out of the exhaust, but still has to pay a fortune for his road tax.

Not sure where you had the 0% emission from, the X5 churns out between 259g/km and 356g/km. That's why they pay more for road tax.
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The new road tax fees are a disgrace and unless you own a car that runs on cow shit, you will be worse off. I know somebody who has BMW x5, which the emmissions are 0% coming out of the exhaust, but still has to pay a fortune for his road tax.

Not sure where you had the 0% emission from, the X5 churns out between 259g/km and 356g/km. That's why they pay more for road tax.
Maybe not quite zero then. :shock:
Now one pound twenty .9 a litre where i live, bonkers!!!!!!!!!!!!! rolleyes
unless we all strike as one like the french weve no chance in reducing any of the taxes this goverment imposes on us,the cost of fuel isnt that high but the tax the goverment add to it makes it that way
the goverment can`t lower tax on petrol as they don`t get so much from smokers any more,,,,,,
think we r all getting hit in the pockets n cash is less each week
use to cost last yr £30 to fill up n now its £50,,,
If only there could be a well organised general strike organised and taken part in by the majority of the population for just one day, maybe then the Government may re-think its taxation on fuel policy. It feels as if this government feels believes itself to be untouchable. Maybe it is.
To be honest, no amount of protesting will get the goverment to change to tax on fuel, they have got us by the bollocks and they know it!.
I don't blame the petrol companies, they make very little profit from fuel.
Thinking about the price of petrol, it's actually a very good piece of national security from number 10-come the revolution, we won't be able to afford petrol for our Molotov Cocktails!
R
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If only there could be a well organised general strike organised and taken part in by the majority of the population for just one day, maybe then the Government may re-think its taxation on fuel policy. It feels as if this government feels believes itself to be untouchable. Maybe it is.

When you have an unelected commissar in 10 Downing Street, what more can you expect?
Anyone see the news today about them slapping extra tax now on cars older than 5 years? Who was it that said their last budget was a good one?
Ah yes, it was Commissar Gordy when defending taking the 10p tax band off the poorest workers...
Meanwhile, the political class still draw their bottles of Krug (tax deductible, of course - and at a discount to take the duty off it) for lunch time sessions in the Members Dining Room (next to where they can still smoke in doors of course) whilst they fill in their claim forms for new televisions to go with the additional houses they get the mortgage paid for by ordinary citizens with their hard earned and diminishing cash! No MP will be driving around in a five year old or more before long, I'm sure one of them has worked out how to get the taxpayer to fund a gas-guzzling 4x4 - after all, no-one else will be able to afford one before long.
Me? cynical? Never rolleyes
Anyone enjoy watching the Robin Hood series on TV? Perhaps Commissar Gordy has been watching it too and taking lessons from the Sheriff of Nottingham? Maybe Gordy wrote the script in his spare time whilst waiting for Bliar to stand down.. who knows?
petrol costs are a big outgoing for me but i have no choice
i cant cycle to work even if i did have a bike, its to far and my job is very physical so id be exhausted
i cant bus it for most of my shifts .... early shifts i cant get on a bus cus they are full of school kids,late shifts means id have over an hours wait at bus stop and wouldnt get home till almost 2 hours after i finished work !
i already have a 1.4 car so cant go much lower than that and its 4 years old and i cant afford newer
im not sure what the answer is altho i dont think the protests will alter the price at all
i would vote for a political party that lowered fuel prices tho
Hrm wish I knew the answer to this, as it is obvious we can't keep relying on petrol as the main fuel for transportation, yet bio-fuels doesn't seem to be the answer either.
On a purely childish note - we now live in Canada and pay half the price of petrol in the UK wink LOL
No good asking you for a shag then, too far away, by the time id cycled there id be fucked!!lol
No good asking you for a shag then, too far away, by the time id cycled there id be fucked!!lol
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Shell and BP have announced profits of around 7 billion in the last 3 months !!
And they keep blaming the price rises on the tax !!

What I find confusing is this: For years and years diesel was a lot cheaper than unleaded now it is more expensive. Now being the cynic that I am is that because years ago people thought it was best to own a diesel car as it was cheaper and the Government cottoned onto that fact, and then raised the diesel prices accordingly? So now there are more diesel cars than ever before but the diesel is a lot more expensive. :shock: Cynical outlook? You bet ya! lol
Being a little on the slow side today.....
just been hearing on the radio about the tax increases being imposed on older cars. Can someone clarify for me that it's cars up to
7 years old that will be affected?
The new VED/RFL/Road Tax bands apply to vehicles registered 2001 onwards so anything registered pre 2001 remains the same AFAIK :-)
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The new VED/RFL/Road Tax bands apply to vehicles registered 2001 onwards so anything registered pre 2001 remains the same AFAIK :-)

Cheers me dears :thumbup:
Quote by winchwench
The new VED/RFL/Road Tax bands apply to vehicles registered 2001 onwards so anything registered pre 2001 remains the same AFAIK :-)

Cheers me dears :thumbup:
Sorry to be all doom and gloom guys but you may want to check out

Just sooooooo glad to be living in France....
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The new VED/RFL/Road Tax bands apply to vehicles registered 2001 onwards so anything registered pre 2001 remains the same AFAIK :-)

Cheers me dears :thumbup:
Sorry to be all doom and gloom guys but you may want to check out

Just sooooooo glad to be living in France....
We all know is just one big con to steal money from us! They use the enviroment as the excuse, but I dont believe a word of it. A natural cycle that happens but they are using it as an excuse to rob us blind.
When are people going to wake up and smell the coffee? Typical English people just sit on their arses and moan and groan and dont do anything about it. :shock: The strikes are a coming and this Government will be booted out, and not before time. They have treated us with contempt and arrogance.
Gaunty for PM !! lol
are the tables to see your car tax cost. Note that cars registered BEFORE 1/03/2001 are subject to the taxation in the top table, while cars registered AFTER 1/03/2001 are subject to the tables below. They are labelled so. As far as I'm concerned, those are the costs. With elections in the offing you should only believe what you can see, not what others tell you. Oh, and whoever is the gov, the fuel cost is not going down, only up.
All the major oil producers are reducing supply to keep the price high, and saudi say they believe that $ is a fair price.
Look on the bright side, soon the "asian boom" is going to bust....based on low oil prices and low labour costs. The first of which is going tits-up, the second following close behind. The next problem will occur when the producers decide to not sell to countries they do not like.....