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When is an insult not an insult ?

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Did you know how Bob Marley like his doughnuts?
Did you know it is often thought that doughnuts originated in 16th-century Holland?
I suppose an insult is an insult when the person on the receiving end feels aggrieved by your words, irrespective of whether they were made in jest or not.
I think it is difficult to convey a joke or mild mickey-take within the confines of a text based forum. You can always use those stupid smiley things lol but to be fair when I see them in text it just reeks of someone who is incapable of expressing their true opinions.
Whether that be because they lack the ability to articulate the fact they are angry :twisted: or whether they genuinely are trying to take the mickey but not incur the subsequent wrath of the moderators purely by using one of these stupid things " wink ".
Either way, if someone feels insulted by your words, then they should say so and you should inspect what you have said.
If it subsequently transpires that you used words that could ostensibly be taken to be offensive (in their view), then you should grow a pair and apologise.
You donut. :wink: :twisted: :lol:
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Did you know how Bob Marley like his doughnuts?

Wi' Jam In lol
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Did you know it is often thought that doughnuts originated in 16th-century Holland?

No I never. you learn a new thing every day with you wink
The best doughnuts *ever* are the beignets at the Cafe du Monde in Jackson Square, New Orleans.

:lickface:
*sighs* Homesick now.
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Did you know how Bob Marley like his doughnuts?

Wi' Jam In lol
:giggle:
How a person receives a comment will depend on
their mood,
their experience of that comment previously,
their understanding of the meaning of the word,
their understanding of how that word is being meant at the time,
their understanding of how that word is 'generally intended/used'.
Someone feeling aggreived by a comment doesn't mean anyone should feel bad about using that phrase or stop them using it again.
Someone feeling that some other, unspecified, person might feel aggreived by a comment can safely be ignored. They need to get a life.
Given the above - how do YOU (Flower) feel the term 'donut' should be interpretted as you used it?
I feel it is equivalent to (as you say) wally, or prat or twit. They are commonly accepted as mild rebukes to the point of amusement. So anyone who objects presumably has their own reasons - but that is personal to them and needne't trouble anyone else.
All the above is my opinion, feel free not to agree with it. biggrin
i use the donut word a lot to insult some one.
i usually say that about my daughters boy friend that he is a donut but with no jam in the middle. the idea is that the donut is his head and the jam would be his brain,but no jam no brain. lol
seriosly though if some one takes ofence to that then they need to get a thicker skin, but on this forum that seams impossible as peeple on here get offended if you say something nice to them. that is how bad it is. :rascal::rascal:
Welcome to the world of being politically correct everywhere, just in case someone somewhere might, just might take offence at something someone somewhere said, possibly maybe. After all this is only Swinging Heaven a place for like minded open minded people lol
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Ya see .... that is kinda the point of the thread ..
Is a "perceived" insult actually an insult ?
Is it possible that somebody with an axe to grind will take a friendly jibe and turn it into an "insult"
And that then begs the question as to who exactly should "grow a pair" !!

A perceived insult is an insult irrespective of the motives of the person on the receiving end.
That is why I can dole out an horredous diatribe aimed at you, your family, your friends hobbies and interests... and you are free to intepret it as a compliment. Afterall who am I to tell you how to perceive things.
The person who needs to grow a pair is the person who is responsible for doling out the "insult", even if he suspects (or even knows) that the person who interprets the so called "friendly jibe" is purposefully misinterpreting it, in order to grind his own axe (for whatever reasons).
Of course, if you choose not to apologise, then that is fine - it simply reduces the essence of your character to that of the person guilty of the willful misinterpretation.
Either apologise, or dig your heels in and standfast. Afterall this is the internet, and the question you need to ask yourself is whether you genuinely and honestly care what people think of you.
I personally don't - but I do care what I think of myself, and if I can see that I have offended anyone, then I will say sorry and then give them a damn good ignoring in future.
My friend is a bagel, he gets really pissed off when people call him a donut.
I call people "noodles" as in "ohh you daft noodle"
I think people know if I mean it because there wouldn`t be a smily face and the text would be a little more :censored: :fuckinghell: but I`m far too nice for that innocent
Can you not amend it?
Maybe something like whinging humourless tossbag? dunno
One only has to look at the logic of the thread title to see its off to a doomed end.
Its either an insult or not.
Failing that use a suitable word for the insult, one which shows balls and commitment.
ie say what you mean, mean what you say.
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A couple of weeks ago I called a bunch of people donuts in a thread. I did it without a worry in the world that anyone would take it as an insult because my understanding of the word donut as a derogatory term is that it is a mild rebuke for someone who is being a bit silly.

But obviously you've had second thoughts about that anyway as you have now found it necessary to unburden yourself, giving rise to the thread :lol2:
Perhaps you'll now pay a bit more care and attention to your posts to avoid such situations arising in the future dunno
Sometimes an friendly insult is just that. Almost a hug, an understanding.
One really big insult for me is the word 'mate'; when it is said by someone who has no right to say it and very likely about to stab you in the back.
anyway what do you now want to call these people if they are somewhat ambiguously titled as donuts?
any suggestions?
turnips?
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Hmmmm ... now THAT could be seen as an insult ....calling someone any type of vegetable is a bit off !!!
I mean a donut is all soft and yummy and everyone likes donuts lol

My friends wife repeatedly called me cucumber in the pub a couple of weeks ago, I suddenly became very popular with her female friends :rascal:
Quote by flower411
A couple of weeks ago I called a bunch of people donuts in a thread. I did it without a worry in the world that anyone would take it as an insult because my understanding of the word donut as a derogatory term is that it is a mild rebuke for someone who is being a bit silly.

But obviously you've had second thoughts about that anyway as you have now found it necessary to unburden yourself, giving rise to the thread :lol2:
Perhaps you'll now pay a bit more care and attention to your posts to avoid such situations arising in the future dunno
Come on keep up !!!
I`ve explained why I started this thread. The fact that you are clearly unable to understand plain English is obvious from many of your posts in here and in the current affairs forum.
You do yourself no favours and your credibility great harm by posting tripe like that flower.
Quote by GnV
A couple of weeks ago I called a bunch of people donuts in a thread. I did it without a worry in the world that anyone would take it as an insult because my understanding of the word donut as a derogatory term is that it is a mild rebuke for someone who is being a bit silly.

But obviously you've had second thoughts about that anyway as you have now found it necessary to unburden yourself, giving rise to the thread :lol2:
Perhaps you'll now pay a bit more care and attention to your posts to avoid such situations arising in the future dunno
Come on keep up !!!
I`ve explained why I started this thread. The fact that you are clearly unable to understand plain English is obvious from many of your posts in here and in the current affairs forum.
You do yourself no favours and your credibility great harm by posting tripe like that flower.
People here have credability! Since when lol
Your all just a bunch of Vileda magic mops rolleyes
Quote by flower411
A couple of weeks ago I called a bunch of people donuts in a thread. I did it without a worry in the world that anyone would take it as an insult because my understanding of the word donut as a derogatory term is that it is a mild rebuke for someone who is being a bit silly.

But obviously you've had second thoughts about that anyway as you have now found it necessary to unburden yourself, giving rise to the thread :lol2:
Perhaps you'll now pay a bit more care and attention to your posts to avoid such situations arising in the future dunno
Come on keep up !!!
I`ve explained why I started this thread. The fact that you are clearly unable to understand plain English is obvious from many of your posts in here and in the current affairs forum.
You do yourself no favours and your credibility great harm by posting tripe like that flower.
Aha !! I`ve finally stooped to a level you understand ..... thanks goodness for that !!
No insult intended lol
there seems to have been a certain amount of incorrectness; which i think is what is causing the offence.
baking is done in batches, not bunches; as they don't arrive as a bunch like grapes; but are constructed deliberately in set amounts.
which must make a lot of difference if you are being slagged off by someone who's calculations are not impirically correct, and find that you have to sustain such an insult.
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Aha !! I`ve finally stooped to a level you understand ..... thanks goodness for that !!

Oh dear banghead
Can I say (for future reference) that I frequently use the following words or phrases much as Flower uses doughnut
Bastard
Twat
Wanker
Motherfucker
Cunt
Fuck off
More to be added later
do most agree that the meaning of such words changes when applied?
wanker means useless
arsehole means deliberately annoying
cunt means deceitful
bastard means deeply offensive
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Can I say (for future reference) that I frequently use the following words or phrases much as Flower uses doughnut
Bastard
Twat
Wanker
Motherfucker
Cunt
Fuck off
More to be added later

which one referes to your good self?
my guess would be the 3rd one down :rascal::rascal:
bolt
Flower, having searched for the instance of the word 'donut' you refer to to, may I just ask you to clarify what you really intended at the time, given the context of the post, given the history between you and the person to whom it was aimed? ((( I struggle to imagine TBQH it was just friendly banter? confused )))
I'm aware that language is a most flexible thing, and it is perfectly possible for an author to overload a word with multiple meanings, just as it possible for the reader to take it any which way they like ((( Textual Analysis, Semiotics, and the role of the reader being core subjects in the 3rd rate Mickey Mouse degree I once studied? :? rolleyes ))) On the whole, assuming I've read it all right I'm of the opinion it's all a bit six of one, and half a dozen of the other? dunno
The above question does inevitably lead to a question along the lines 'are we meant to read between the lines yet still further into the purpose of your thread, along the lines that a seemingly innocent general question may actually include a bit of a personalised dig?' :dunno: ;)
Just asking like? ;)
N x x x ;)
See I told you ..... please admin get those emotes sorted
I've never used the term donut myself but I have been know on occasion to refer to people as poppet or petal depending on the situation lol