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Dave_Desert229
2 months ago
Bi-curious Male, 61
Bisexual Female, 62
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I've heard the recordings too and I don't think there was much humour involved. The tone of Gray's and Keys' voices were quite nasty and sneering, in my opinion. They sounded genuinely annoyed about the temerity of having a female official taking part in a Premiership match.
It's easy for them to backtrack after the event and say they were joking but I'm afraid they've showed their true colours. This is the straw that broke the camel's back as far as Sky Sports were concerned. Remember they've had 'previous' when they were covering the Ladies FA Cup Final a few years back, taking the piss out of the quality of the play.
Is sexism as bad as racism? Ron Atkinson was sacked by ITV following his racist (off-air)comments about Marcel Desailly, I don't know anyone who condoned that, so why should Gray and Keys be any different?
As we used to sing back in the late 70's:
"Hark now hear the West Brom sing
A king is born today,
His name is Cyrille Regis
And he's better than Andy Gray". :twisted:
Oooohhh, Mrs B.
Count Desi and I in. It's my birthday on the 23rd. I'm <mumble> years old and we already booked that week off work.
Interesting to read some of the responses to this.
"Arty-farty nonsense... art for art's sake" says one. "Turner Prize... publicity hungry hypocrites" says another. Art is meant to be challenging. It's not just random silence. Each "performance" is meant to include the sounds of the surroundings in which it is played, so that birdsong, coughs, moving furniture etc are all included and therefore makes each "performance" individual and different. John Cage composed it in 1952 (so it predates rock n roll) and was influenced by Cage's interest in Zen Buddhism.
Why it was done is the same reason why Rage Against The Machine was done last year. As a protest to the bland, soulless warblings of Simon Bowel's ego massage that is The X Factor. RATM didn't exactly work as it was meant to though as they were/are signed to Bowel's record company so guess who made the money?
I support anything that will bloody Bowel's nose. He is slowly killing pop music with his glorified karaoke singers.
Sad to hear this. She was one of the few in the Mids room who actually spoke to me when I was a newbie.
RIP, Hun.
XXX
I saw The Power Of Nightmares a few years back. It was a brilliant documentary series on BBC about how the media and governments worldwide manipulate things to 'frighten' the general public.
One thing it said about Al Qaida was that it was invented by the US authorities in order to prosecute certain cases. Under the US constitution, certain crimes can only be investigated and brought to court if there is an "umbrella network" of "organised crime". The US created Al Qaida to include all muslim extremists regardless of how connected they were. The Mafia is exactly the same. They are all different "families". They have no connection to one another apart from them all hailing from Italy.
The idea of Bin Laden being in control of every muslim extremist terrorist cell is ludicrous. Especially when you bear in mind he lives in a cave in a remote part of Pakistan/Afghanistan.
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Band reunions
Good - It is a good way to see that the musicians are still alive
Bad - Finding out they are........then get a re-release of a forgotten song
Next topic Government
Dave_Notts

Dude. You've killed the thread by asking somebody to find something good about the gub'mint. lol
Woo hoo.
Desi and self.
By hook or by crook, we'll be there. Desi going to threaten physical harm to folks at work to ensure we're there.
My birthday is 23rd Feb so mebbe's I can be included in the celebrations too.
Was:
Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness - Green Carnation. Prog metal perfection from Norway.
Now:
Chinese Democracy - Axl's All-Stars.
PINK FLOYD
Good:
The run of albums from Meddle throught to The Wall, with an honourable mention for The Division Bell.
Bad;
Rick Wright's death robbing us of a reunion.
Next subject:
Band reunions.
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Our town Christmas street lights, though not lit up yet, have been up for over a month now. Crazy as they were only taken down at the end of March! works out at only six months break. So crazy whoever decided this as it's not as though they're are that many or special in anyway, in fact they are, in comparison to most comparable towns, a locally talked about let down

I can sort of understand councils putting up lights along the High Street or somesuch. They have to get them up and make sure they all work for the big switch on. The ones I saw earlier were just a display in a shop window. Far too early, imo.
I saw my first set today.
Up and shining brightly in the window of a shop in SE London. The clocks haven't gone back yet. That means it's still technically Summer, FFS.
The way things are going, by 2025, Christmas will be a 12 month thing.
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Fourth in the league.
Boing boing, yo bewtiful Baggies.

Is the Vauxhall conference league still going then? lol
Unless your either Chel$ea or Man Citeh (who've bought their success) or Spuds, then we're above you on merit. It probably won't last, but I'm enjoying the moment.
:bounce: (just a pity that ain't blue & white).
Disc 1 of Remasters - Led Zeppelin.
To obliterate the memory of that Godawful version of Whole Lotta Love inflicted upon the World by one of Simon Bowel's evil robot puppets tonight.
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I left school in 1981, here in sunny Dorsetshire we never saw such hardships.
I am also of the view that the lady and her government were not at the heart of the problems described above.

Of course you didn't. You've admitted you were in Dorset. How many foundries, mines, shipyards were in Dorset? It's the 'stockbroker belt'. The only hardship was maybe not having petrol money for your Porche.
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Forget about what she may or may not have done all those years ago FGS.
Some people though carry the hate with them for all these years.....how sick is that?Some people need to move on and get a life.

Easy to say from an ivory tower in the affluent south east.
Thatcher and her policies were responsible for tearing the heart out of entire communities. Mining, ship building, steel manufacturing and countless others all died due to her.
As someone who grew up in the Black Country and left school in 1980, I saw first hand the damage she did to the UK's manufacturing industries. Foundries and factories closed, generations of working men were thrown on the scrapheap.
I don't wish death on anyone, but I won't take part in any minutes silence when she finally does go.
Are they the same industries that were losing millions of pounds every working day, and were only being kept open by the unions by any chance?
We have has 13 years of Labour rule, yet did not see them trying to bring back any of those industries that were oh so profit making, in the 80's.loon
I suppose some people would be happy to throw taxpayers money at industries that are going down the toilet, just to save the jobs.
Socialism is great whilst the money is there....
How on Earth can you equate 13 years of Labour government with socialism? New Labour are just as conservative (small "c") as the Tories (maybe more so, Thatcher was an archetypal 'classic liberal'). Blair has admitted his political hero was Thatcher, something totally anathema to any quote-unquote socialist.
This bit:
"I suppose some people would be happy to throw taxpayers money at industries that are going down the toilet, just to save the jobs."
The banking industry, anyone?
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Forget about what she may or may not have done all those years ago FGS.
Some people though carry the hate with them for all these years.....how sick is that?Some people need to move on and get a life.

Easy to say from an ivory tower in the affluent south east.
Thatcher and her policies were responsible for tearing the heart out of entire communities. Mining, ship building, steel manufacturing and countless others all died due to her.
As someone who grew up in the Black Country and left school in 1980, I saw first hand the damage she did to the UK's manufacturing industries. Foundries and factories closed, generations of working men were thrown on the scrapheap.
I don't wish death on anyone, but I won't take part in any minutes silence when she finally does go.
Every Red Heart Shines Toward The Red Sun - Red Sparowes.
Going to see them live tomorrow. Yaaaaaaayyyyyyy!
Desi came in from work tonight and said she'd been watching it and wanted to see the end of the programme. She put it on and I was astounded to hear such tuneless wailing from these so-called future stars.
The problem I find with all of them is that they have all studied their Mariah Carey's Greatest Hits albums and have convinced themselves that endless caterwauling is what passes for singing. Each and every one of them oversings whatever song they attempt.
Sometimes, less is more. Listen to Art Garfunkel sing Bridge Over Troubled Water and hear arguably the best pop vocal performance of all time. He wouldn't get past the audition stage on Simon Bowel's ego-trip because he doesn't stretch a simple word like 'love' to 17 syllables.
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Blimey some of these choices I aint never f*cking heard of you weird bunch of music geeks! Has no one listened to any normal stuff? How about the NOW 497 album or JLS's ermm I forget what its called but the one with that trcord on it you know the one it goes traa laa laalaa yawn dum diddy dee and repeat.
This is where we need that Brummy bird Sassy seren biggrin to give us some pointers in the direction of some new good old fashioned Rock!

You want "new, old fashioned rock"?
Here's a couple of names for you.
Firebird. They are just about to release their 6th album. They are the brainchild of Bill Steer, former guitarist with Napalm Death and Carcass, but don't let that put you off. Firebird play early 70's influenced blues/rock in the vein of Rory Gallagher, Free, Mountain, Cream etc. If you want unpretentious heavy blues, check them out.
Airbourne are an Australian band and are, pretty much, AC/DC clones. no frills 'does exactly what it says on the tin' type of heavy riffs.
Orange Goblin are one of the UK's best bands. Live, they're awesome. Again, no frills, NWOBHM inspired British metal.
White Wizzard are a new band from LA who also play classic Brit inspired rock/metal.
I could keep on all afternoon, but I have to go to work soon.