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Elliot
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 41
United Kingdom

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Quote by markz
I fear i have said too much :doh:

yeah wasn't like simpler when all you could say was "phone home"....... :mrgreen:
I believe that was ET that said that, not Elliot, however you have just uncoverd my namesake ! yes thats right i was named after 'Elliot' from ET ?!
Bonedigger - are you sure you're actually getting messages, as this would be the reason it doesn't flash silly
Quote by varca
It can take up to 5 page changes for the new mail icon to start to flash from the time you have recieved the mail. If thats not it i don't wanna know as it means something else i have to fix silly

4 page changes and I flash :rascal:
What a coincidence, 4 beers and i flash redface
It can take up to 5 page changes for the new mail icon to start to flash from the time you have recieved the mail. If thats not it i don't wanna know as it means something else i have to fix silly
If its not working - try logging out and logging back in.
Quote by wayne80
Hi all
Does anyone know when the facility to search profiles by distance from ones own location will be back. It's just without this feature most searches are pretty pointless unless you are someone who can travel vast distances at the drop of a hat.
Grateful for any info
Wayne

Now smile
Quote by swcpl2005
I haven`t had any real problems since beta stopped rearing its ugly head every five minutes !!!
I`m sure everybody will tell me it was just a coincidence rolleyes
But let`s see what happens when they try bringing it in again.
Personally I like the way the chatrooms work, I like the layout and i like the features. None of it is particularly confusing and, honestly, it works most of the time.
As soon as beta chat is switched on the whole place will fall apart... !!!
Go on lol prove me wrong :lol:

Beta chat was temporarily up and running earlier today but it's now lost the "beta" tag.
If what we saw is really the taste of things to come then it's going to annoy a lot more people than it pleases. Very little progress has been made on improving the user interface which may well appeal to an 18 year old reared on a diet of eye candy and an attention span that is measured with a stopwatch but for those with a bit more experience (or actually qualified in human factors and man/machine interfaces) it falls well short of what could be developed.
We were really hoping that SH were listening to feedback from the beta testing but some major points have been missed and the opportunity to develop a chat room worthy of such a good site has now been lost.

HI,
Could you run through some of the things with the look/style/feel that you don't like. Please ignore any features that were not working as i'll come to that in a minute.
The user interface was re-designed to reflect the current chatrooms look a lot more, very simple, clean and minimalistic approach. The layout has been optimised to fit as much on the page as possible - we have to take into consideration the users on the tiny 800x600 resolution - it just about fits perfectly, and if you have a higher resolution, will expand to any size you wish, still maximising the space avaliable.
I would be interested to know what issues you still see with the interface - as far as i was aware we listened to all the feedback previously and have come up with a in interface based on the feedback we received. I won't delude myself and expect it to please everyone, but i'm always open to suggestions, and want constructive criticisms from whoever can offer it - i want the new chatroom to be a success as much as you do.
As far as losing the 'beta' tag and the issues seen yesterday. You can test and test again in the development environment, but it will always happen, issues will be found when opening it out to the public. The beta tag was removed because as far as i was concerned, the application had been tested enough, i was happy with its performance during testing (no issues were seen that was seen yesterday), and i was happy for it to go live.
The bugs seen were minor issues that will require a small amount of time to fix, they were very superficial.
Its important to remember the primary goal of this new chat is to address reliability and performance issues - its to address the problems users have with the current chat, as mentioned in the first post - problems changing rooms/servers for instance.
When we took over the site the chatroom had very little use, the chatroom we implemented was for little use - now we regularly see 1000-2000 users a night on the servers, this is why we have had to 'bodge' together 3 separate chat servers to split the users out - its less than ideal. It gets very complicated when you talk about user numbers in triple figures, the majority streaming and publishing video, chatting and flipping rooms/servers.
As far as the original point of this thread goes, i think people need to look at it at another angle - many sites of this size will just be left alone, taking money, no further development or improvements, no resources spent on taking it to better levels - just reap as much money as possible while you can.
Luckily we're not like that and continually want to develop and improve the site and the community. Hence the copious amounts of work gone into this new chatroom - yes it has issues but it will get there.
The fact i'm sitting here on a Saturday afternoon replying to a thread while not even being paid sums it up - its because we care, not because of money.
I'm hoping i've fixed the longer profile wait issue, ie ones that take 30+seconds to load. Let me know how you get on.
There are still some minor issues with the server setup which do sometime result in pages taking up to 10 seconds to respond every so often (i notice this probably one in 10 page loads). We are working on this so will keep you updated.
Thanks,
Elliot.
Hi,
With the profiles, do you get anything appear on the page quickly at all? Or is it a white/blank page? When it does load, how long does it take roughly? And when it finally does load, does it all just appear in one burst or gradually load?
With answers to the above I'll be able to track it down and get it sorted smile
Thanks,
Elliot.
Hi,
There are no known issues in this respect.
When you click on the view profile button, is it slow to open another window, or does the window open straight away and the page load very slow?
Elliot.
And what makes you think MSN or any other form of IM isn't logged, it all has to go through servers somewhere, the things Mr Gates must have read! smile
As said, logs are not looked at unless there is an issue, at all.
Also, forgot to mention, the email server has a small backlog at the moment, so the Pm notification mails may be slightly delayed getting to you.
Private messages are exactly that, we don't intercept/delete/read anyones, unless requested too by the user if there is a case of abuse.
You are indeed most likly experiencing technical issues, which the new mailbox and further tweeking of the setup will resolve.
However its worth knowing that if you do send a mail, it will get to the user, sometimes because the database servers take a few minutes to sync. In the same situtation, you may get a notification of a mail sent before it appears in your inbox while the servers take the time to sync the data.
For instance:
Person sends PM via Database Server 1.
Email notifcation gets sent.
Recipient logs in and checks their mailbox on Server 2.
Mail does not exist on Server 2 because its still syncing over from Server 1.
And thats basicaly it smile
Quote by GnV
I guess it could be made to work the other way.. you will only be able to find friends that have YOU in THEIR friends list....

Hence when i said mutual friends above? biggrin
We will work something out.
It can be linked to the forum hide my online status, but we can just as easily make another option.
Either way, this sort of thing comes later, first we need to get the bloody thing finished smile
Quote by Kiss
You are quite clever for a bloke. :mrgreen:

Two can play at that game, now get back in the kitchen!
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Yes it will have a "don't find me" option.
It may only be visible on your friend list, and perhaps only to mutual friends....
I've not decided yet, point being, the capabilties there, we just need to decide how to implement it smile
Cheers guys and gals, new higher spec servers and change of network hardware certinly has made a vast improvment in speed and reliability.
Long let it continue!
Hot topic images now fixed, ctrl & refresh will re-cache them if your still seeing the old ones.
:bounce:
Before you reply, please make sure you have cleared your browser cache since the new layout was put live, as detailed by the sticky.
Having old code/images will make it look horrible smile
Sorry could you elaborate a bit, not too sure what you mean?
Thanks smile
Most certinly. I've just spent the last 30 in the chatroom getting killed lol
Thanks for kind words. We do get it right in the end.
Hi All
Fingers crossed we believe we have fixed the issues currently being seen by some (all?) users.
The error i'm refering too will say "Proxy Error" in big black letters.
Could you only post below if you receive a proxy error from the time of reading this, onwards. And only post if you have recieved a proxy error, nothing else.
Apologies to all for the issues recently, it has been a crazy couple of weeks for us, but things should now settle down.
Many thanks,
Elliot.
I suggest you get in there quick then as i will be putting the feature back in after lunch :P
Hi All,
Just to let you know server 3 will be up and down a bit today as im setting up for the new chatroom.
Elliot.
I'm not a mac expert by any means.
But i would guess, looking at that list, your webcam isn't in it ata ll. Firewire, dv and usb all being external connections. Does your cam work in other applications?
Hi All,
Thanks for testing last night.
The speed issues were related to the server it was being hosted on - as it was in Beta, the test server was around a quater of the spec that our main servers are.
We will be running the new chat side by side for a while - it will most likley replace chat server 3, so we can see how it runs. I would estimate this is taking place tomorrow, or monday.
Elliot.