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Firelizard
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Female, 60
Straight Male, 63
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Quote by Dirtygirly
Knobs break though. I used to have a radio with knobs, and they fell off. I prefer things without knobs for this reason.

You mean you don`t have a jar full of knobs from defunct appliances for just such an eventuality ??? :shock:
LOL, no. Maybe I should start a knob collection!
I wouldn't bother rolleyes DG's probably got one she started earlier you could have :mrgreen:
No... a knob collection is one thing I don't have, nor do I need one! :giggle:
oooooh!!! how rude :shock: I didn't mean those kind of knobs lol I mean't jars of knobs...you know collections of things in jars loon
kiss
Quote by bluexxx
Knobs break though. I used to have a radio with knobs, and they fell off. I prefer things without knobs for this reason.

You mean you don`t have a jar full of knobs from defunct appliances for just such an eventuality ??? :shock:
LOL, no. Maybe I should start a knob collection!
I wouldn't bother rolleyes DG's probably got one she started earlier you could have :mrgreen:
Quote by Sexonfire
"ignorance is bliss" always sounds like one of those sayings designed by people to make themselves feel better about their own short comings.
Like when short people say "the best things come in small packages"
I've never heard a tall person say "the best thing come in tall packages"

I have, but they're always talking about me confused
I would go if I were in your shoes DG. If I were single because I wanted to be and had no kids through choice and it was just me living the life I wanted to I would be quite proud that I had made that decision and happy to answer people's questions about it.
Lets face it alot of them rather than judging you might be feeling just a wee bit jealous smile
Quote by Waterpistol
I agree with that Witchy....Waterpistol! I used to go swimming club where you live and Crisp Street Market :thumbup:
jeez that must've been a while back, Poplar baths closed down in about 1988 biggrin
I know but I was having my first baby that year so my swimming medals were busy gathering dust by then smile
Quote by westerross
Kashmir is there though!
lp

Yeah redface I don`t know who they are ??
Are they a "Classic" rock band then ??
seriously?
not a 'them', it's a classic track... Led Zeppelin... from; Physical Grafitti. The one with a building on the sleeve... double gate fold...the inner sleeve forming the images (interchangable) in the windows... know it?
lp
Shall we trample him underfoot? I think he's toying with us personally - nobody can not know what Kashmir means.........
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I know!! it's a jumper innit? :smug:
I agree with that Witchy....Waterpistol! I used to go swimming club where you live and Crisp Street Market :thumbup:
Pete worship and welcome back lovely.
Kenty I work full time and hard when I'm busy. Whilst doing this work there have been times when I have needed extra help because I work for myself and would'nt dream of giving up my business because the government and the banks can't manage theirs. If I'm out of work in the future I will think the same way as I think now...fairly and not dismissively confused
Quote by Witchy
I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to big up the newly departed Mrs Bone. On the one hand, I'm glad she's gone (she knows I mean it in the nicest way) but having just looked through some classic Boney threads- I'll miss her (on here) terribly.
A lovely, warm person- a dear friend, and a fabulous forumite.
You rock, Mrs Bone. :rose:

No Witchy you are definitely not alone smile big ups from me too xxxx
Quote by Sexysmilingeyes
I really hope none of you are ever in a situation so bad you need to claim benefits .... that you never feel depressed and worthless because you cant find a job or because smug 'tax payers' lord it above you that they can have a choice, they want to know where every penny is spent because they work but you don't. Because although they may have worked for 30 odd years (paying tax) in the same job and have now been laid off are of an age that you are virtually unemployable.
Think on those of us fortunate enough to be working at the moment - I know many working at LDV, again filing for administration, not knowing if they have a job or will have one. But they know if they are out of a job it will be very difficult to get another. There skill set isnt needed as much, look how long it took the Rover guys to find jobs and they was before the recession. Many of these people went to work there from school, probably have not got many qualifications relevant outside there current workplace.
Are you really saying a man of 50 after working 30 yrs and paying taxes isnt allowed during the time he is out of work to have a cheque sent to him to pay his landlord ? Is he that incapable - after all he has only worked for 30 yrs and ran a house and paid bills for that long too, but I suppose now he is out of work he cant even manage that hey ????

:thumbup: I'm with ya!!!
Quote by fem_4_taboo
if you work its your choice what you spend your money on.
What about if you work and receive benefit?
i actually think benefit should not be cash at all.
I don't disagree with this.
you get a set amount for utilities, ensuring gas, electric, water is all provided and no child will be without. food vouchers are issued for food,not tobacco or alcohol.
Yep smile
if you dont like this get a job. in this country not paying your way grants you more rights than doing so.
i no doubt willbe flamed for this.
im not saying its easy to get a job, but you want respect and choices then earn that right.
This is far to dismissive...I know folk who have been looking for work down here for longer than 6 months. One is 21 and a hard worker who has applied and still is for a wide variety or work and the other is in his 40's and has applied for everything going. The first thing he gets asked when he calls anyone is how old he is :shock:
benefits should be for no longer than a 6 month safety net and then if you stillhave no job you help out in the community ,even if only for 3 hours a week.
Yes as long as it's paid thats fine...the 21 year old is already looking at doing this as there is already a similar scheme. He hates not working and sees this as a good way of keeping busy.
if you want the assistance of the state then i think its only fair that the tax payer knows the money for rent is spent on rent.
xx fem xx

I'm tired so will make it brief....
There are many folk out there that do work and work long hours but because of crcumstances beyond their control they still qualify for benefits. It's not always the no good layabout that receives them confused and also lets bear in mind that they are still paying tax and therefore do contribute to the help they are receiving.
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Could you not just have sent your friends the cheque through the post and let them pay it into their account? That way what could the bank possibly charge for?
Bluddy banks...pah!!!
I take your point Gnv BUT..until the law comes in that says there is no choice, my preference would be to have that choice thank you. After all where will it stop? Will the child benefit I get go straight to George at Asda, as it is for clothing my children? Of course not...I have a choice smile
I have managed my own budget now for about 28 years and I am quite capable of continuing it for a while yet :) and I'm sure there are hundreds of folk on benefits who feel the same. Instead of the onus being on the government making sure the landlord is paid why should it not be on the landlord or his letting agent to make sure that they have the type of tenant they want in their house.
If it is paid direct to the landlord then there could be at least 10 people who then know you are on benefits, the landlord and possibly his letting agent and all their staff. When you live in a very small community where news travels ( I know it should'nt do but it does) and you may have a small business or do something that the image that you project is important it could be very damaging to you as peoples perception of benefit receivers is unfortunately usually a negative one.
Quote by GnV
I'm basically with kent on this.
The real problem lies in the perception that people with property to rent must be "minted" and therefore can stand losing the rent money they are due from the tenants confused
I don't have that perception smile
Tenants' other priorities - like putting food on the table - then take over and once on the slippery slope of being able to get away with it, the landlord no longer features as important in their scheme of things.
Yes I agree GnV those priorities do and will always take over. Not just for tenants but for anyone at all whether they own property or not. Lets face it, if we don't eat, we die then the rent/mortgage certainly won't get paid :)
But the fact is that landlords do play a very important role in all of this and are entitled to their rent. Removing the temptation by paying it direct is sensible.

Yes I agree, landlords are entitled to their rent and I also feel that tenants are entitled to the choice of how their money is paid to them. An awful lot of private landlords will not accept people on benefits. That's their choice. Are they the only ones allowed a choice? and if so..why?
That is assuming of course that they had the money to start with?
Of course smile Although the usual course of action here would be to inform the landlord/agent of difficulty and then make an arrangement to catch up on the rent when the cashflow eases.
A lot of people who are made redundent or lose their jobs, do not have a months rent or even two to pay, out of their own pockets.
That is true but it's not often in a couple say, that both are made redundant or lose their jobs at the same time. So a contribution at least can often be made to the rent. It's usually food and a roof over your head that take priority.
Giving some people who have no money, all that rent money could be too much of a temptation.
Some yes but by no means people with no money know what their priorities are and stick to them. (I'm not including in this people that are unable to think rationally and sensibly either through substance abuse or are very young and inexperienced. Just the normal run of the mill tenant)
As a landlord I would still rather the money be paid direct even if I had to wait those two months to start with. I will get it eventually unlike if a tenant failed to pay it themselves, have you any idea how long it takes to evict them, and no chance of any back rent owed to the landlore being paid.
Yes :)
I'm answering here for all the folk who may be in receipt of benefit through genuine hardship, that don't smoke, drink and fritter the money away and that are perfectly intelligent and sensible enough to know what their priorities are and stick to them.
These threads always seem to turn into people accusing people on benefits of being lazy, good for nothings who haven't got a brain cell between them. Yes there are folk like that and yes I do object to paying my taxes for those types but there are also thousands of people who have paid taxes all their lives and are entitled to help and don't need to be made to feel small and insignificant because they are accepting help. Oh and I also feel that yes they should be given a choice of how they want to be paid that money.
I'm not saying here Kenty that you have made anyone feel insignificant it's just the general feel I get from this thread and others like it.
Fire x
I've had a little think about this and come to the conclusion that I am........
100% human and a citizen of the world. I feel related to everyone, no matter what colour we are or what country we come from or how long ago it was...so yes I was born in England but I am a mixture of everyone else smile
If we're talking about immediate relatives though there are in my family...French & English and my children can add swedish, welsh and Irish into that mix too wink
Quote by kentswingers777
That is true.
I really cannot understand why they would pay the claimant directly.
It is madness that can only go one way.....eviction for many.
IF I was a landlord I would much rather the money be paid directly into my account by the council, and not too rely on a benefit person giving me the money.
On that basis I would think twice about taking a benefit clamaint on. Thats not bias, that is just common sense.

Hi Kenty
In answer to the first bit I highlighted....maybe because the claimant has struggled to pay the rent himself whilst the benefit section dealt with their two month backlog due to the increased workload it has due to the credit crunch and more folk needing help. The money then would actually belong to the claimant as he has already paid the landlord.
If you were a landlord and you were recieving the rent straight into your account ...again you would have to wait for your money due to backlogs and would therefore not be in any better position than if the tenant paid it. Your need would in fact not be prioritised the same as a family desperately needing the money to eat etc so therefore you could be forced to wait longer.
It's a sad state of affairs at the moment confused
As far as references go I'm not sure you're allowed to be brutally honest are you? I thought you had to not comment or something like that?
That aside though in my opinion honesty is always a winner. I don't like being told lies and I don't tell them...they are a tool used by attention seekers, deceivers or cowards.
Fire x
I miss two little boys I never got the chance to build memories with.
xxx
Good thread Sugar :thumbup:
Happy Birthday gorgeousness....
May you have many more birthdays because the world would definitely be a poorer place without you here :inlove:
Oh and don't listen to Splen..she just wants to get in your knickers :giggle:
Quote by __random_orbit__
Moments like you describe Ben are always indeed a joy.
I particularly like the architectural refernces you made.
Simply looking-up, above the standard the shop-front detritus of our high streets, noticing the facias of some grand Victorian and Georgian buildings... usually libraries, railway stations (particularly termini)and viaducts/bridges. These are the things that catch my eye.
Then again, the juxtaposition of nature with the architecture... further hieghtened when the prior glory of the architecture may well have been diluted by a lack or care, or simply have had it's colours dulled from the grim of the era in which it was built (the smoke from chimney and train) ... all good.
A shrub, bright green and flourishing forty feet above the soil tenaciously gripping a ledge in Victorian stone-masonary and brickwork, catching the sunlight. Vibrancy delicacy and life against decaying grandeur soot and wieght. Super.
lp

Excellently described R/O and the photo's are great Ben :thumbup:
Happy Birthday Essex me old mucker!!!! smile or should that be just mucky confused whatever....have a great day lovely :happy:
Broadwoodwidger DEVON
A wider than usual, hugely erect cock being inserted into an unlubed orifice.
Today I would mostly like to shag......errrrmm.....
Splenwitchfreckledstormybloke redface
What dunno
Mind you I'd have to stay awake long enough first confused
Quote by BIoke
Can somebody attractive post please so we get a balanced opinion here?
:rascal:

But !!!
You already have :shock:
You find me attractive? It's the pink cowboy hat isn't it... come on now? lol
I find you attractive Bloke redface its only partly for looks, the rest is posting style and sense of humour and intelligence smile
I wouldn't ask for attractive in our profile as our sense of what is attractive actually differs between me an Stormy so I much prefer to leave it to chance.