I THINK, from memory, as a relative worked in the shipyards during the war, so am relying on secondhand info here, that the Royal Navy men were paid when their ships were sunk.
However, even the Royal Navy has been subject to pay cuts and subsequent "industrial action" against them. See below, notice also the "fairness" of the cuts across the ranks.
In September 1931 the National Government led by Ramsay MacDonald announced a reduction in pay for sailors serving in the Royal Navy. The actual reductions were Admiral (7 per cent), Lieutenant Commander (3.7 per cent), Chief Petty Officer (11.8 per cent) and Able Seaman (23 per cent).
Copeman thought this was unfair and helped organize what became known as the Invergordon Mutiny. Copeman was a member of the strike committee that persuaded the sailors on 15 ships of the Atlantic Fleet not to obey orders until the pay cuts were reviewed. The strike lasted for two days and was called off when the wage cuts were withdrawn. As a leader of the revolt, Copeman was victimized, and was forced to leave the Royal Navy.
In edit, after reading a bit more about the above, this snipit came to light,
The Invergordon Mutiny caused a panic on the London Stock Exchange and a run on the pound, bringing Britain's economic troubles to a head that forced it off the Gold Standard on 20 September 1931.
So, anyone care to blame the Unions for that one???
John
Well said HnS.
Could also point to Jimmy Reid and Upper Clyde shipbuilders. A bit back in time but proves the point.
On a slightly different tack, whatever happened to the "Workers Councils" that were going to be set up in all medium to large companies? Think it was an EU idea, pretty sure they have them on the Continent.
John
The Chinese have a saying;
"Quanity brings it's own quality"
John
Couple of fun ones !!!
Geordie Rodeo, but 2nd woman needs really good balence.
And "The Pirates Surprise" is always a hit with the ladies !!!
John & Shel
This new series about 70s swinging is first shown later tonight.
I've never seen any previews or write ups about it, but I'd make the following predictions;
All of the swingers are beautiful.
They never have child care problems.
None of the women are bi.
None of the women squirt !!
None of the men come too soon.
In a hotel no one knocks on the wall to keep the noise down !!
They never burst of laughing at a joke in the middle of sex.
All their meets go according to plan.
Just like swinging in real life then.
John & Shel
We only having been involved with swinging via the internet, can we ask how the pre-internet stuff worked?
How did swingers find each other?
Was it a letter with a photo enclosed to make a date for a social meeting, then someone booking a hotel room for a later date? Presumably there were no swingers clubs in the 70s?
John & Shel
Got to be Cap D'agde !!
John & Shel
Wouldn't bother us, it's all about "intent". ie your not intending to be erotic or lewd, just being practical.
In Cap D'agde its the other way round, you go into the lingerie shops naked and try on exotic and erotic clothes in full view of people (as everyone is nude no need for changing rooms), but everyone is looking to see what you look like with clothes on !!!
John & Shel
This sums up exactly why we prefer meets at clubs !! Any problems at a club, loads of people, maybe even bouncers to sort it out for you.
Of course once we get to know people, we'd meet at hotels or houses, but for an initial meet, has to be a club.
Having said that, its surprising how many couples and indeed single males say they won't meet at clubs........fair enough........good luck !!
John & Shel
Not being a huge football fan, but looking at the English World Cup shambles as if it were a business.
First define what you'd call success..........Is it;
Winning the World Cup? Well that hasn't happened since 1966..!!!
Or is it;
Having a team who are proud to represent their Country, play their hearts out and totally have a go at the opposition...??? As I say not much of a fan, so can't say if we've had a team who have done this in the last 44 years.
But clearly the 2010 team and manager, were NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
In any business after trying the same business model for 44 years and having no, or only slight success, you'd say "Change the business plan"
So here's my idea. Declare the present system obsolete !!
Then send out a call to all members of the Armed Forces (who are eligible to play for England) including reserve forces, who would be interested in representing their Country at football.
Spend the next year selecting those with footballing talent say 100 of them. Then spend the year after that training them with top class coaches, (they are still paid and hold the rank of their services). The year after that having whittled it down to say 50 players, start this team playing minor league teams in friendlies and work up to friendlies against other Countries.
The Manager??? I'd put out a call to patriotic ex-footballers such as Alan Sheerer or David Beckham and say "will you manage this team, for the same pay as say an Army Captain" Hopefully one would respond.
The big advantages they would have are, playing together all the time, not worried about playing for clubs who pay their wages, don't get worn out by playing so many games.
Maybe this is all wishful thinking, but two facts stand out.
1, the fans really would have a team of heroes, who would give 100% as the armed forces always do.
2, they couldn't do any worse that the team of 2010.
John
Don't hold your breath for ANY Politician of any Party to do anything about it, except maybe huff and puff............Human Rights innit ???
John & Shel
Unfortunatly not at A&Gs this Fri, but you'll have a great time there. Bar staff are excellent and friendly. Rooms are big and ultra-clean.
John & Shel
Report on news today saying petrol / diesel prices expected to be about 8% higher in January, due to the vat increase, oil price increases etc.
They are predicting average prices to be around £1-25 per litre.
Happy Days !!!
John & Shel
Have a look at the "What if" books, you'll see that history turns on very small details. These books go from Greek / Roman times to the present day and show that what appears to be tiny decisions at the time have massive effects on world history.
John
In terms of changing the World, probably battle of Trafalgar as it allowed us to build the British Empire...........don't know if that was good or bad, but certainly important !!!
John
Can we provisionally be on list ? Might be away on holidays if we get a last minute booking for that week.
John & Shel
Think Carlsberg already did.........It's called Fun4two, but the stupid Danes built it in Holland instead of the N.E. of England.
John & Shel
It closed down as a swingers club couple of months ago. Think it had been going downhill for a while. The guy who had run it for the last few years did not have a very good reputation.
Shame, cos we also had some good times there.
Give A&Gs a try, similar atmosphere to when 101 was at its best.
John & Shel
Think he means we're stuffed !!!
John
