All the New Order sleeves were done by Peter Saville. He's a great designer.
I don't really mourn the passing of records, I love MP3s and download them by the bucketful... the only shame is that record sleeves were an art in themselves. CDs don't look anywhere as nice.
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GregLondon
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 50
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I have set up a company that provides Sun readers with up-to-the minute information on darts matches in pubs across the country. I will also provide authentic backing sounds (belches, Meatloaf on the jukebox, "oooh, he's going for double top!") so that men can phone their wives from dogging locations and sound like they're in the pub.
Looking at the ads on this site, and on other swingers sites... I am always amazed how few are from Londoners. Given that the population of London is so massive, I imagined there would be more swingers, but the majority seem to come from the Midlands or Lancashire.
I think it may be partly that there are too many distractions in London. Clubs (sexual and otherwise) and loads of other things to do, but it still doesn't really explain it. Maybe Midlanders and Northerners are just more sexually adventurous.
In a way it fits into the whole cliche of suburban wife-swappers... the idea that the real sexual adventures don't occur on the city streets, but in quiet leafy suburbia, where behind every twitching net curtain lurks a sexual deviant.
Any thoughts?
I think it may be partly that there are too many distractions in London. Clubs (sexual and otherwise) and loads of other things to do, but it still doesn't really explain it. Maybe Midlanders and Northerners are just more sexually adventurous.
In a way it fits into the whole cliche of suburban wife-swappers... the idea that the real sexual adventures don't occur on the city streets, but in quiet leafy suburbia, where behind every twitching net curtain lurks a sexual deviant.
Any thoughts?
My only experience in a club was very good.
I think it's easier to go to a club... particularly if you're a couple. You have no pressure, can share a drink and chat, and you're never left standing on your own, looking like a loser!
I think a club is also better because you can chat to people with no pressure to participate, whereas if you arrange a meet, there's more expectation that something sexual will occur.
I think it's easier to go to a club... particularly if you're a couple. You have no pressure, can share a drink and chat, and you're never left standing on your own, looking like a loser!
I think a club is also better because you can chat to people with no pressure to participate, whereas if you arrange a meet, there's more expectation that something sexual will occur.
I've only been in the forum a few days, but I've used the photo ads for a couple of months now and have experienced crap results.
In a way, it's my own fault... I went through a period of experimenting with my sexuality and logged onto gaydar. You log on a 30 minutes later you're over in some strange bloke's house, getting your cock sucked.
And so, compared to the gay scene, where everything is FAST, FAST, FAST, the swinging scene does seem very hit and miss.
In a way, it's my own fault... I went through a period of experimenting with my sexuality and logged onto gaydar. You log on a 30 minutes later you're over in some strange bloke's house, getting your cock sucked.
And so, compared to the gay scene, where everything is FAST, FAST, FAST, the swinging scene does seem very hit and miss.
To be honest, I've found 99% of the websites than masquerade as free sites are just scams. You can browse adverts for free, but to get in contact with people you need to register (and pay).
Even this place hasn't been much use to me. Plenty of genuine ads, but no-one ever seems to reply to them. I suspect that a lot of people are dipping their toes into swinging waters, but get freaked out when it becomes a reality, rather than just a fantasy. Oh well.
I did find one site that seemed ok: ************** you have to register but it's free. As with most sites, it's mainly lonely single men...
steveg_nw.......believe it or not we don't advertise other swinging sites in here.
Even this place hasn't been much use to me. Plenty of genuine ads, but no-one ever seems to reply to them. I suspect that a lot of people are dipping their toes into swinging waters, but get freaked out when it becomes a reality, rather than just a fantasy. Oh well.
I did find one site that seemed ok: ************** you have to register but it's free. As with most sites, it's mainly lonely single men...
steveg_nw.......believe it or not we don't advertise other swinging sites in here.
It is a matter of cosmic inevitability that men photograph their genitals.
The problem I encountered wasn't technical... it's just that I don't find photography a particularly erotic experience. So by the time I have worked out the shots and set the timer, my hard-on has disappeared. Oh well.
The problem I encountered wasn't technical... it's just that I don't find photography a particularly erotic experience. So by the time I have worked out the shots and set the timer, my hard-on has disappeared. Oh well.
PSP was originally designed as a poor man's photoshop, but I think it's a great program in its own right. It's not as powerful as Photoshop but it's a lot more userfriendly (and a lot cheaper, if you actually buy software). And it has a lovely browse function which is very handy if you don't have an operating system that allows you to view files as thumbnails.
Sorry. I mistook this for a geek forum.
Sorry. I mistook this for a geek forum.
I liked it. I liked the open-ended nature of it... like the best stories, it offers more questions than answers.
How does he feel about the guy having his fingers in his wife's vagina? Will there be simmering sexual tension when he goes to the party? He hints at vast previous sexual experience... what was it?
It's just like Jackanory but with more vaginas.
How does he feel about the guy having his fingers in his wife's vagina? Will there be simmering sexual tension when he goes to the party? He hints at vast previous sexual experience... what was it?
It's just like Jackanory but with more vaginas.
Moustaches are generally bad unless you're trying to make an ironic statement. They will either make you look like a gay clone or a man who regularly beats up his wife. (this only applies to men under 40 with a moustache).
Generally, in my experience, if you grow a beard men will say "hey, nice beard" and women will say "Ughhh... what is that??!"
And just to illustrate it, here I am with no beard, goatee and full beard.
Generally, in my experience, if you grow a beard men will say "hey, nice beard" and women will say "Ughhh... what is that??!"
And just to illustrate it, here I am with no beard, goatee and full beard.
In all honesty, I think you're better off in the forums than using the ads. I've posted an ad and have gotten no reply. And I've replied to a few ads and not heard anything back.
Either I am horrendously unsexy, or people just don't bother using the ads properly. I suspect a lot of people place an ad whilst drunk and horny and then either forget about it or chicken out.
Either I am horrendously unsexy, or people just don't bother using the ads properly. I suspect a lot of people place an ad whilst drunk and horny and then either forget about it or chicken out.
Well, as I said, my experience of the swinging community is limited. I am speaking as an outsider (cue the music from the Twilight Zone)... and as for my research... well, I will take what comes my way, whether it be from this place (unlikely), the real world (still pretty unlikely) or blind old women with hearts of gold (a possibility).
All I can say is "each to their own". Maybe if my pubic region was a mass of wiry, impenetrable hair, I'd shave it, but since it's relatively tame, I shan't bother.
I have no problems with men or women shaving down there. All I have said is that the girls I've shagged have expressed either a) no preference or b) said that the thought it was a bit weird to shave men's pubes.
Since the number of women I've shagged is relatively small (amazingly, under 0.5% of the world's population) I will be assuming that my experience is not representative of the views of all the world's women.
I will endeavour to do more research. From now on, every woman I fuck will have to fill out a questionnaire on sexual preferences, hygiene, personal grooming and musical taste. I will post the results on the board.
I have no problems with men or women shaving down there. All I have said is that the girls I've shagged have expressed either a) no preference or b) said that the thought it was a bit weird to shave men's pubes.
Since the number of women I've shagged is relatively small (amazingly, under 0.5% of the world's population) I will be assuming that my experience is not representative of the views of all the world's women.
I will endeavour to do more research. From now on, every woman I fuck will have to fill out a questionnaire on sexual preferences, hygiene, personal grooming and musical taste. I will post the results on the board.
Yes, I am sure that I am talking from experience. But as I said, most women I know have simply said that they don't like the idea of a guy shaving because they don't see it as masculine. But then again, the women I know weren't in any great hurry to suck my balls, so maybe I was doing something wrong without knowing it.
I am hairy all over, so I am quite touchy about shaving... sure, it starts with the balls but then before you know it I am getting my chest waxed.
I am hairy all over, so I am quite touchy about shaving... sure, it starts with the balls but then before you know it I am getting my chest waxed.
Ourplace4fun was the place I went to... I found it on the web and made some enquiries and it turns out that it is 10 minutes walk from me.
I liked it... friendly crowd, lots of rooms and a decent crowd. When I went it wasn't that crowded and the people there were mainly in their 30s and 40s with a smattering of 20 somethings. It's a private club... very discrete with good security and welcoming owners. They don't sell booze but you can bring your own and they keep it behind the bar for you.
It's a bit pricy to join, but its a years membership and after that you only pay £20 (if you're a guy) to get in. When I spoke to the owners they said the main stumbling block was that (because it's a members club) you have to give your name and address and some people (mostly timewasters, I'd imagine) don't want to do that.
I'd recommend the place, but as I am a newbie, I can't compare it with anywhere else.
I liked it... friendly crowd, lots of rooms and a decent crowd. When I went it wasn't that crowded and the people there were mainly in their 30s and 40s with a smattering of 20 somethings. It's a private club... very discrete with good security and welcoming owners. They don't sell booze but you can bring your own and they keep it behind the bar for you.
It's a bit pricy to join, but its a years membership and after that you only pay £20 (if you're a guy) to get in. When I spoke to the owners they said the main stumbling block was that (because it's a members club) you have to give your name and address and some people (mostly timewasters, I'd imagine) don't want to do that.
I'd recommend the place, but as I am a newbie, I can't compare it with anywhere else.
Ok... I also consider myself a relative newcomer, having only been to one club night.
I went to a very friendly club... sat at the bar, chatted to the locals... was friendly but not pushy. Anyway, I got chatting to a couple who were also new, and spent ages having a laugh before they invited me into a room where I ended up shagging the woman as about 10 people watched through two-way glass. Was strange but good.
The point is (there is a point in here somewhere) that I didn't start chatting to the couple to get sex. I chatted because they were fun, friendly people. My advice is not to worry about sex, just remember basic social skills such as being friendly, chatting, listening to people's answers and generally being a normal person. That way even if you don't get sex, at least you'll make friends and feel more relaxed the next time you go.
That evening was good, but I did notice a lot of single men towards the end of the evening... clearly horny but lacking the confidence to just chat to people and open up. So don't be like that!
I went to a very friendly club... sat at the bar, chatted to the locals... was friendly but not pushy. Anyway, I got chatting to a couple who were also new, and spent ages having a laugh before they invited me into a room where I ended up shagging the woman as about 10 people watched through two-way glass. Was strange but good.
The point is (there is a point in here somewhere) that I didn't start chatting to the couple to get sex. I chatted because they were fun, friendly people. My advice is not to worry about sex, just remember basic social skills such as being friendly, chatting, listening to people's answers and generally being a normal person. That way even if you don't get sex, at least you'll make friends and feel more relaxed the next time you go.
That evening was good, but I did notice a lot of single men towards the end of the evening... clearly horny but lacking the confidence to just chat to people and open up. So don't be like that!
