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MQ
Over 90 days ago
Straight Female, 53
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I originally joined SH out of pure curiosity but the longer I stay the more I like it! It was the sex side of it that I was interested in but I probably wouldn't have stuck around so much if it wasn't for the Forum and the friendly people I've come to know here. The most surprising thing to me has been the friendship, the parties aren't just sex, they are great fun, lots of laughs and chatter and the social aspect has grown in importance for me too. I also find that there are people that I fancy more and people I wouldn't shag because they are good friends and it is better that way.
Hope to see you both at Blues party anyway 
Quote by foxylady 123
IImagine admiting to diriving a focus!!!
No seriously , why do they need to lump drugs and swinging together?
I drive a Focus C-Max is that ok?
More shagging space in one of those than a focus 
Bloody idiotic connecting drugs and swinging, they are not closely linked at all! Most parties and munches have a no drugs rule, the most I have seen is a bit of joint smoking, never cocaine or anything hard.
To be honest I got distracted by the piece on Pete Doherty 
I wonder how many other swingers view what they do as that woman does, that she is sort of ashamed of the fact that she is enjoying it so much. I can't say I take that view, I enjoy it and I don't give a flying cow if some holier than thou type disapproves!
I wonder how many other swingers view what they do as that woman does, that she is sort of ashamed of the fact that she is enjoying it so much. I can't say I take that view, I enjoy it and I don't give a flying cow if some holier than thou type disapproves!
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The point is that when you know about the sequence of activity of a partner you are swinging. If you don't know who they last had sex with, you go back to doing casual.
Its quite simple.
Not at all.
So, what you are saying is that because we have casual sex with others, we aren't swingers?
So, MQ, we are safe to have fun as i know who you had sex with at our last meet so you are safe, lol :twisted:
G & D x
WOOHOO!!!
I'll look forward to it! :twisted: Quote by rogerthedragon
Its not about having a list of the people you had sex with.
Its knowing who they were with before you have sex with them. Knowing that there is a sequence of partners who are as clean and safe as you.
That is why you have a group of knowing and consenting adults. Otherwise you let in someone who presents a risk.
What the hell are you on about? This is why most swingers use condoms!
What Roger said!!! The issue wasn't about safe sex and how many sexual partners a person has had. In fact you could have sex with ONE person unprotected and end up infected, or 50 people with protection and be completely clean. Completely irrelevant point there.
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I would define the difference in this way:
Casual sex occurs between people who do not know about the casual partners previous sex partners.
Swinging occurs when people know of each others previous partners.
Sorry, but I can't see what knowledge of previous partners has to do with anything. Are you suggesting that "genuine" swingers present a list of everyone they've had sex with?
Would that list have to be REAL names as well?
Quote by hornyred and dinoI had an idea where this topic would go and that is why i wrote this early on in the thread . it happens to be how i think of swinging ,couples , married , single men , single women , bi , straight or gay, 2s,3s,4s 5s,etc .I see us all as part of a sexually liberated community , no labels , no groupings , no hasstle ,,,easy !!! :D :D
Ive given up on trying to distinguish and categorise between all that goes on in the "sexually liberated " community , far to many "groups " so i lump em all together in a big sweaty heaving mass of fornicating humans who just love to shag !
Sounds perfect to me! Now when can I join you in that sweaty heaving mass of fornicating humans who just love to shag? :twisted:
Some people are just driven by obsession, that woman obviously has problems herself to do that. It's not like he will invite her into his home and give her hospitality while she is there, he won't even know she exists!
Whether MJ has abused children or not it is clear that he has serious mental problems and therefore should not be entrusted with the care of children, animals or bloody teddy bears for that matter! His money has made him untouchable until now, surely he will at least start to get treatment for his obvious problems as well as jail if he has hurt a child, and no bloody cushy palaces either!
I too have very strong feelings about paedophiles and would stick a knife in anyone who abused my children without a second thought, if it is proved and I hope to god that if it is the truth then he doesn't get away with it, then he should be locked up and made to face reality and the punishment he deserves.
Whether MJ has abused children or not it is clear that he has serious mental problems and therefore should not be entrusted with the care of children, animals or bloody teddy bears for that matter! His money has made him untouchable until now, surely he will at least start to get treatment for his obvious problems as well as jail if he has hurt a child, and no bloody cushy palaces either!
I too have very strong feelings about paedophiles and would stick a knife in anyone who abused my children without a second thought, if it is proved and I hope to god that if it is the truth then he doesn't get away with it, then he should be locked up and made to face reality and the punishment he deserves.
The question that crops up in my mind though as a single, am I less welcome at a swinging party? A lot of parties and clubs actively encourage single women to come along and the parties I have been to have had single men there too. Are they less entitled to play because they are not 'true swingers'?
I know in practice that I am welcome at parties and clubs, but do some people hold the attitude that I shouldn't really be there because I am not fortunate enough to have a loving partner?
I don't mean to cause trouble but all this categorisation makes me feel uncomfortable.
I know in practice that I am welcome at parties and clubs, but do some people hold the attitude that I shouldn't really be there because I am not fortunate enough to have a loving partner?
I don't mean to cause trouble but all this categorisation makes me feel uncomfortable.
Right now I would love to be back in bed but I can't so that's that!
In my dream I am in the spa that's on those low fat hot chocolate ads, the one where she's dreaming, can't remember the bloody product now lol! I would be chilling in the jacuzzi with half a dozen well built young men pandering to my every whim.... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!
In my dream I am in the spa that's on those low fat hot chocolate ads, the one where she's dreaming, can't remember the bloody product now lol! I would be chilling in the jacuzzi with half a dozen well built young men pandering to my every whim.... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!
ops:I can see your points Jon but can't say I completely agree. While it is a fact of life that people have sex and that we should be open and honest with our kids about it, I wouldn't feel comfortable discussing swinging and other more 'kinky' (sorry not the right word) types of sex eg bdsm and the like. My 13 year old knows about sex and I am open with him to a point, talking about the risks and responsibilities that come with sexual relationships and about how respect and protection is important.
He knows I go to parties, but doesn't know what sort of parties. He will probably find it out for himself in the end but I don't feel right just yet talking to him about it. I think the more intricate parts of sex are best discovered yourself anyway, I wouldn't feel right talking to him about what turns me on and off, he is only a child and I am his mother, that would feel inappropriate to me.
He knows I go to parties, but doesn't know what sort of parties. He will probably find it out for himself in the end but I don't feel right just yet talking to him about it. I think the more intricate parts of sex are best discovered yourself anyway, I wouldn't feel right talking to him about what turns me on and off, he is only a child and I am his mother, that would feel inappropriate to me.
Yes here too, depression is a constant issue in my life and has been since I can remember. It took me having a breakdown to get it recognised some years ago. Since then I have been on ADs pretty much constantly, barring a few breaks when I mistakenly thought I could fight on without them. I suffer panic attacks, anxiety, claustrophobia and agoraphobia at different times.
I don't think swinging is a result of that. It helps me in a therapeutic sort of way, builds my confidence in myself and makes me feel better to know that I am attractive to other people. I've had a lot of problems which have made the the way I am but swinging isn't part of it, more therapeutic I think
At this time in my life I find swinging attractive because I am single, enjoy sex but don't wish to be in a relationship. I know you could say I could go picking up men in clubs but I find the swinging scene to feel much 'safer' in the way that everyone has certain standards which not all Toms, Dicks and Harrys would have, the people are friendlier and I have a lot more control over what goes on as opposed to a drunken fumbling with some pillock in a nightclub. I like the sense of community, the opportunities to broaden my horizons and it's just fantastic amazing sexy fun!
I don't think swinging is a result of that. It helps me in a therapeutic sort of way, builds my confidence in myself and makes me feel better to know that I am attractive to other people. I've had a lot of problems which have made the the way I am but swinging isn't part of it, more therapeutic I think
At this time in my life I find swinging attractive because I am single, enjoy sex but don't wish to be in a relationship. I know you could say I could go picking up men in clubs but I find the swinging scene to feel much 'safer' in the way that everyone has certain standards which not all Toms, Dicks and Harrys would have, the people are friendlier and I have a lot more control over what goes on as opposed to a drunken fumbling with some pillock in a nightclub. I like the sense of community, the opportunities to broaden my horizons and it's just fantastic amazing sexy fun!
if ya know wot i mean :wink: Nobody can argue with that Rich and Donna. I also find it disturbing that they see fit to bring up a child in that environment, sex clubs are closed to children for very good reason and so should hotels. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable even planning a swinging encounter if there was a child present.
PMSL@ the link! I did a similar thing when my X-hubby got caught out there but I had his account details and password. I posted on HIS profile that he was a complete bastard who had fucked off with a slag nurse and left his wife and two children He didn't find out for ages and I forgot until a work colleague of his looked his name up and discovered my rant :lol: :twisted:
I also had his bank account details until he realised and dashed down the bank to cancel his online stuff! Pity I didn't have the nerve to clear him out............
He didn't find out for ages and I forgot until a work colleague of his looked his name up and discovered my rant :lol: :twisted: I also had his bank account details until he realised and dashed down the bank to cancel his online stuff! Pity I didn't have the nerve to clear him out............
