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MikeC
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 45
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Quote by bluexxx
Of course, if you want to objectively discuss any historical event like the African-American slave trade and how it affected the world, you have to remember that slavery has been well used, totally acceptable (to the wealthy) and the rock on which every single known empire going back as far as you like, has been built.
Ancient Egypt, for example.... the pyramids that are now a fascinating tourist attraction were built by thousands of slaves. Many thousands died during the building of every one... and for what? So some rich dude could be dead in it :dry:
Ancient Rome could not possibly have happened without its legions of slaves. Britain bought and sold slaves then.
With the rise of every empire, there are the wealthy few and the very poor many, who have no or little life choices. Whatever you want to call the poor --- slaves, serfs, peasants... whether they were bound in actual chains, or psychological chains made by laws --- the poor many were the worker ants that fed the wealthy few.
The African-American slave trade only stands apart from all of the above because it was so recent. It is quite possible for people to find the names of their slave (or slave owner) ancestors as it really is only a handful of generations ago. And because we can look around any part of Britain today and see the benefits of it.
And of course, the thing that no one ever speaks about is that the living descendents of African-American slaves have now quite arguably better lives than their distant relatives in Africa whose ancestors weren't enslaved. Thinking like that proper does your head in, but isn't it quite true? And again, you can look anywhere you like throughout history and see the (very) long term benefits of the shittiest parts of empires.
(By the way, Neilinleeds would have loved this thread)
Interesting thought.....about empires and slaves, add to that the Byzantium, Otaman and how britain was during the empire years in Asia and Africa. I think you are right what makes the African slave trade so real to put it that way is that it was maybe 4/5 generations ago....even if you look at records from 1900s the word negro and molato were used to describe a black person, and that is 30/40 years after the slave trade has ended.
I think what is interesting from a historical standpoint is you still see the impacts of this now...example how there were still some Jim Crow laws on statuate books in some states till the mid50s the years my parents were born.
To me and this is ironic that the Lincoln memorial is one of the most visited by African Americans...what people forget is that Lincoln actually owned slaves...pot kettle.....?
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Quote by bluexxx
Oh good topic.
When I did my history degree we covered slavery in quite some detail. The letters and records kept by some slave owners are shocking, even by the standards of their day. I thought I was quite hard, but they certainly got to me.
I think the wealth brought to Britain, and the benefits from that wealth are still very much with us. Probably for most people the situation is one where they just don't realise where the wealth that created cities like Manchester and Liverpool came from, what was a major contributor to the rise of big industry, the railways we all still use etc etc.
I know officially Britain has apologised for being involved in the slave trade, but I think more could be done about educating people just how shit (and how very recent) all of that was.
For me I would defianly recommend anyone that hasn't seen it to watch roots....
Agreed blue on the lack of records.....in the us most Afro-Americans are lucky to have anything in there family tree prior to the civil war. Some records I have see just say 4 slaves.
Agreed and also Bristol was a massive part of the slave trade as well. Don't get me wrong it wasn't all doom and gloom but it wa s a real shocking part of world history and what for me is that in Europe at the sometime there was a huge anti semitism movements the the same time that is never mentioned.
I think more needs to be done to educate people of not only slavery in general but the historical issues and change it brought around. I do believe there was a time that non whites were not allowed on the American census something that is unthinkable due to the current ethnicisaty of the American president
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Quote by meat2pleaseu
Bump found this interesting post a wrote over 6 years ago......
For me sums me up perfectly
Sorry- didn't read it- got distracted by Binxy's marvelous boobies!
hwoar:I remember meeting binxy at a munch somewhere can't remember what she looks like thought oooppps
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Quote by bluexxx
I know there used to be a song thread, but I can't find it, so starting a new one.
Inspired by the EPIC Bohemian Rhapsody, just finished on Bliss Channel (Sky 372 for those who've sold out to big media, as I have), we must have a song thread back.
Sooooo --- post your epic, shlushy or cheesy fave TUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNES here
Dammie's Law:
Shlushy and quite sad for me at the moment is Katy Perry's "The One that Got Away" as for some reason when I hear that it always reminds me of Kbuk
(Can't remember if it's allowed to post You Tube Links on here - mods?)
The song from Robin Hood......proper slushy
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Quote by meat2pleaseu
I'd like to be the meat in a dirty girl/angel chat sandwich for breakfast :twisted:
Do you still remember my address Meaty? :rascal:
If i can find my way to the local train station I think I could find it easily :twisted:
As it's less than 200 yds from the local train station, I'd be very disappointed if you couldn't! :giggle:
Meaty just turn up and shout smurfs.....she will come running out like a dog on heat lol
I'll just look for the house with the biggest pile of empties and stolen wood
And it is painted blue
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I suppose with the new film coming out 12 years in slavery. Thought this would be a good time to start a thought provoking thread.
When you look at how slavery was in the the us, and not just in the southern states although this was more prevelant, do you think the others countries should have done more to stop it or do you think that they were living off the benefits of it also.
For me the story of slavery whilst not personal is quiet hard hitting especially whilst I have been doing us research in my family tree. The use of words which under today's catergisation would be racist to classify people, the ownership of another human being without any rights, the outrageous behaviour of male slaveowners towards the female population, would shock even the cold hearted people.
It is strange as I still think the issue of slavery in the uk is a , as we kind have washed our hands of it. But there was a number of owners who moved to North America and Caribbean, from the uk.
Wondering what people's thoughts are...I know this could be a potential firebrand thread but I think a friend would be smiling up there and would be one of the first to post
When you look at how slavery was in the the us, and not just in the southern states although this was more prevelant, do you think the others countries should have done more to stop it or do you think that they were living off the benefits of it also.
For me the story of slavery whilst not personal is quiet hard hitting especially whilst I have been doing us research in my family tree. The use of words which under today's catergisation would be racist to classify people, the ownership of another human being without any rights, the outrageous behaviour of male slaveowners towards the female population, would shock even the cold hearted people.
It is strange as I still think the issue of slavery in the uk is a , as we kind have washed our hands of it. But there was a number of owners who moved to North America and Caribbean, from the uk.
Wondering what people's thoughts are...I know this could be a potential firebrand thread but I think a friend would be smiling up there and would be one of the first to post
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Quote by Angel Chat
I'd like to be the meat in a dirty girl/angel chat sandwich for breakfast :twisted:
Do you still remember my address Meaty? :rascal:
If i can find my way to the local train station I think I could find it easily :twisted:
As it's less than 200 yds from the local train station, I'd be very disappointed if you couldn't! :giggle:
Meaty just turn up and shout smurfs.....she will come running out like a dog on heat lol
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Quote by Angel Chat
Ohhhhh and being so tired, still drunk whilst hungover after one munch, that I fell asleep on the train. Was supposed to get off at Doncaster, ended up in Edinburgh!!
:shock: :shock: I didn't know you'd done that! That's proper made me laugh!! :giggle:
And me.....
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Quote by meat2pleaseu
I'd like to be the meat in a dirty girl/angel chat sandwich for breakfast :twisted:
Do you still remember my address Meaty? :rascal:
If i can find my way to the local train station I think I could find it easily :twisted:
Angel your place had a really nice Chinese nearby it was yummmmmm
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Quote by noladreams
Okay....
Breakfast: sausage, bacon, eggs etc
Coffee
Tea
Bucks Fizz to finish last night's bubbles
But NO tomato ketchup in Nola's kitchen, for t'is the foodstuff of the devil himself.
Thanks for bacon.....is there any water.....I am struggling to remember last night.....someone gave me a drink (possibly bloke) and said have it and relax..........
Next thing I know I am awake this morning.......my bum feels very oily like the feeling of lub in it....(I know that wasn't angel as she would make sure it would be something painful)
I have chaffing around my wrists and ankles as well.......hmmmmmm not looking forward to seeing these photos in my inbox today.....
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Quote by Freckledbird
...suppose the swinging manta of ask before touching has kinda been ingrained in me.
Hey ho....
That's not a bad thing, Mike :thumbup:
Yeah I kinda still feel really awkward when see lots of touchy feely stuff at work events......for me it invades my personal space...swinging events nota. Problem
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I think looking through some of y old threads / mailbox there is
1) alist of people that I may had forgotten I had my wicked way with
2) a list of people where I should have been more forward and selfish and and asked to play with.
This also brings back a conversation I had with 2 people late last year.....where in my younger days in the scene I just didn't pick up the subtle signs of swinging. I was a flirt and flirted with everyone......have I changed yes in someways. I think I have become more cautious in rl flirt ness as suppose the swinging manta of ask before touching has kinda been ingrained in me.
Hey ho....
1) alist of people that I may had forgotten I had my wicked way with
2) a list of people where I should have been more forward and selfish and and asked to play with.
This also brings back a conversation I had with 2 people late last year.....where in my younger days in the scene I just didn't pick up the subtle signs of swinging. I was a flirt and flirted with everyone......have I changed yes in someways. I think I have become more cautious in rl flirt ness as suppose the swinging manta of ask before touching has kinda been ingrained in me.
Hey ho....
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Quote by noladreams
And someone get the bacon butties on the bounce, will ya?
Not that I eat them, but they are compulsory aren't they.
I'll be breakfast bitch :giggle: 'cos I'm hungry & don't want to wait all day!
You can warm my sausage up
:doh: Ahhh, the funnies keep on coming!
Hurry up with the breakfast
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Quote by bluexxx
What's your current secret pleasure?
Could be anything, however or run of the mill.... just tell me, you'll feel better if you do......
Dammie's Law and all that -- my secret pleasure is currently Dr G Medical Examiner (ID Channel - Sky 522 @ 7pm and 11pm, if you have sold out to big media as I have). She's great. I love her.
Who do you think you are is brilliant but blue I think we have had this interesting discussion about family history
